turtlespeed 226 #26 September 17, 2015 billvon>I read it as he wants the law to be followed. Why are you a proponent of >breaking the law? I'm not. I am a proponent of changing it. Why do you hate immigrants? I don't hate immigrants, I simply want illegal immigration stopped. Legal immigration is a great boon.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,077 #27 September 17, 2015 >I don't hate immigrants There ya go. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #28 September 17, 2015 billvon>I don't hate immigrants There ya go. Ah, you say that and it is in the perceived tone of being somehow wrong. Why is it wrong to not hate immigrants? The duplicity of the left is amazing.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,077 #29 September 17, 2015 >Ah, you say that and it is in the perceived tone of being somehow wrong. Nope, it's not wrong. In fact, it's sort of a dumb thing to ask. >Why is it wrong to not hate immigrants? Missed the point again. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #30 September 17, 2015 billvon>Ah, you say that and it is in the perceived tone of being somehow wrong. Nope, it's not wrong. In fact, it's sort of a dumb thing to ask. >Why is it wrong to not hate immigrants? Missed the point again. Then why did you ask it?I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,077 #31 September 17, 2015 >Then why did you ask it? Simple. You asked me "Why are you a proponent of breaking the law?" I am not, of course; you said that just to try to get a rise out of me and start a fight. I could have just said "stop with the flamebait and try a rational discussion." But rather than be blunt I posted a similarly dumb question, hoping that you would think "that's a dumb question, I don't hate immigrants. But I asked the same sort of question . . . ." In the future I will not assume you can figure it out. My bad. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #32 September 17, 2015 billvon>Then why did you ask it? Simple. You asked me "Why are you a proponent of breaking the law?" I am not, of course; you said that just to try to get a rise out of me and start a fight. I could have just said "stop with the flamebait and try a rational discussion." But rather than be blunt I posted a similarly dumb question, hoping that you would think "that's a dumb question, I don't hate immigrants. But I asked the same sort of question . . . ." In the future I will not assume you can figure it out. My bad. Lol. It's called banter.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #33 September 24, 2015 QuoteI don't hate immigrants, I simply want illegal immigration stopped You'll never stop illegal immigration. All you are doing is turning legal immigrants into illegal immigrants. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cvfd1399 0 #34 September 25, 2015 If you cant stop it then why is Germany taking the steps to do so? Might want to page the Germany posters and tell them they are wrong too. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,077 #35 September 25, 2015 >If you cant stop it then why is Germany taking the steps to do so? They're not. They have stated quite clearly that their goal is to limit, not stop, immigration. German Interior Minister Thomas de Maizière: "The aim of this measure is to limit the current flow to Germany and to come back to an orderly process at entry." But let's compare the US to Germany to see who is suffering more: US population: 320 million German population: 82 million US illegal immigration from Mexico per day: 820 (2009 numbers; that has since decreased) German refugees from Syria per day, pre-limits: 2000 to 12,000 http://www.vox.com/2015/9/13/9319741/germany-borders-merkel Let's say that the border restrictions cut that in half. That means they will STILL be taking in more migrants from Syria than there are illegal immigrants coming in to the US from Mexico. And the number of immigrants will continue to grow, since they plan to keep accepting them for as long as they can. "German Chancellor Angela Merkel says that there's no legal limit to the number of people fleeing political persecution her country can shelter . . . Germany has seen more migrants arrive than any other European country and expects 800,000 to come this year." Scaling by population that means that if the US accepted 3.2 million undocumented immigrants a year, we would be as accepting as Germany. Of course, as in the US there are factions who want to end the acceptance of undocumented migrants: =============== http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/germany/11519619/German-neo-Nazis-threaten-to-behead-local-politician.html Neo-Nazis have reportedly threatened to behead a local politician in Germany over his support for asylum-seekers, days after a refugee shelter was burned down in a suspected arson attack. Götz Ulrich, a local politician in the eastern state of Saxony-Anhalt, told German television neo-Nazis had threatened him with "the methods of the French Revolution" – which has been widely interpreted as a reference to the guillotine. The threat comes after a shelter planned to house 40 asylum-seekers in the small town of Tröglitz was left uninhabitable in a fire police are treating as an arson attack. ================ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
