WTF is wrong with American police?

[normiss 851]

You wouldn't resist an unlawful arrest?


Well he's been fired, what's your best bet for what happens next?

[futuredivot 0]

Protest-lawsuit-little hoodlum becomes a hero.

You are only as strong as the prey you devour

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futuredivot

Protest-lawsuit-little hoodlum becomes a hero.

Not necessarily in that order, but all that, and more.

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
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[cvfd1399 0]

normiss

You wouldn't resist an unlawful arrest?


Well he's been fired, what's your best bet for what happens next?

There are too many issues to even get into this post about how you are misinformed about the first part, and too left leaning to understand the number of reasons he would be fired in the second part which includes saving face by a department by burning him infront of the media despite the teacher AND the principal both backing the actions of the cop as they WITNESSED them in person.

Your views in the police are so very colored as to not see the whole picture or the details.

[Driver1 0]

cvfd1399

***You wouldn't resist an unlawful arrest?


Well he's been fired, what's your best bet for what happens next?

There are too many issues to even get into this post about how you are misinformed about the first part, and too left leaning to understand the number of reasons he would be fired in the second part which includes saving face by a department by burning him infront of the media despite the teacher AND the principal both backing the actions of the cop as they WITNESSED them in person.

Your views in the police are so very colored as to not see the whole picture or the details.

Well, to be fair, I don't think the sheriff had much of a choice but to fire the guy, based on his history and with an upcoming court case over a prior incident of brutality.

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[normiss 851]

3 swings and misses!

[turtlespeed 226]

normiss

3 swings and misses!

I don't believe it was an unlawful arrest.

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
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[RopeaDope 0]

This isn't so much a reply to you, cvfd1399, but a general post.

Something had to give in that situation, and by that, I mean with the kid. If my son did something like that, I'd have his ass right back in there apologizing to the officer, to his teacher, and to his classmates.

The officers actions may not have been the most appropriate, but the girl wasn't hurt physically, only her ego was shattered. I would have disciplined him, privately, but let him save face with the students so as to avoid further undermining the authority of law enforcement among the upcoming generation.

Something should also be done about the fact that the school officials completely mishandled the situation as well. The cop should not have been brought into the room unless a crime was committed. This was a student/teacher issue. If he teacher couldn't handle her student, then the principle should have stepped in. Obviously none of them wanted to be the "bad guy". They wanted the resource officer to come in and do their job for hem, and he ended up getting fired over it.

So what happens to the student who was being a fuck up in class, and the teacher and principle who can't handle their students? Nothing? Just another shitbag officer gone. I sure hope the resource officer in my son's school can dominate a situation like that if there is ever an active shooter incident there.

[normiss 851]

What were the arrestable offenses?

[cvfd1399 0]

1. The teacher told her to leave the classroom. She denied
2. The teacher escalated and called the administrator(dont know if principal or whoever) and they came to the class and told her to leave the classroom. She denied.
3. They then called the resource officer to escort her out of the class. He told her to leave. She denied.
4. At this point he is well within his job description to put hands on and remove the kid.
5. As he approaches and puts hands on she hit him once in the body and once in the neck.
6. He then took her down and placed her under arrest.
7. The teacher AND administrator present both after the indent backed the resource officers actions as needed and just.

I am with you if you do not listen to your teacher, a head of the school, and then strike an officer you deserve that level of being ripped out of a chair and thrown on the ground.

[cvfd1399 0]

You dont even know is what is so sad. You are forced to ask others or ignoring the obvious to troll like you dont know. If you honestly dont know I suggest google asap before you continue to embarrass yourself.

[normiss 851]

"4. At this point he is well within his job description to put hands on and remove the kid. "

No he didn't, in fact that as well as him throwing her to the other side of the room were the key points of his firing

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normiss

"4. At this point he is well within his job description to put hands on and remove the kid. "

No he didn't, in fact that as well as him throwing her to the other side of the room were the key points of his firing

Face it.. some people are very very good at excusing any police brutality.. no matter how much they should know better.

And that is a sad state of affairs. People have NO rights in their eyes... COMPLY OR DIE.. and they seem good with that... and the brutality goes on.

[cvfd1399 0]

normiss

"4. At this point he is well within his job description to put hands on and remove the kid. "

No he didn't, in fact that as well as him throwing her to the other side of the room were the key points of his firing

Fucking WRONG again. He has the absolute right to do it, so since you are to unwilling to get your facts straight here I will help you stop looking so foolish

http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/28/us/south-carolina-school-arrest-videos/


His boss the SHERIFF said this

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But South Carolina has a law that muddles the role of school resource officers, the sheriff said.

"Unfortunately, our Legislature passed a law that's called 'disturbing schools,' " he said.
"If a student disturbs school -- and that's a wide range of activities, 'disturbing schools' -- they can be arrested. Our goal has always been to see what we can do without arresting the kids. We don't need to arrest these students. We need to keep them in schools."

A CNN expert said this...

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CNN law enforcement analyst Harry Houck cautioned against jumping to conclusions about Fields, even if the footage "looks really bad."

If an officer decides to make an arrest, he or she "can use whatever force is necessary," said Houck, a retired New York police detective.

"So if you don't comply with my wishes," he said, "then I can do whatever it takes to get you out of that seat and put handcuffs on you."

[cvfd1399 0]

Amazon

***"4. At this point he is well within his job description to put hands on and remove the kid. "

No he didn't, in fact that as well as him throwing her to the other side of the room were the key points of his firing

Face it.. some people are very very good at excusing any police brutality.. no matter how much they should know better.

And that is a sad state of affairs. People have NO rights in their eyes... COMPLY OR DIE.. and they seem good with that... and the brutality goes on. See the post above what I stated in number 4 was a cold hard FACT are you willing to admit that?

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cvfd1399

1. The teacher told her to leave the classroom. She denied
2. The teacher escalated and called the administrator(dont know if principal or whoever) and they came to the class and told her to leave the classroom. She denied.
3. They then called the resource officer to escort her out of the class. He told her to leave. She denied.
4. At this point he is well within his job description to put hands on and remove the kid.
5. As he approaches and puts hands on she hit him once in the body and once in the neck.
6. He then took her down and placed her under arrest.
7. The teacher AND administrator present both after the indent backed the resource officers actions as needed and just.

I am with you if you do not listen to your teacher, a head of the school, and then strike an officer you deserve that level of being ripped out of a chair and thrown on the ground.

I didn't read the whole story, just saw the video. But looking at the video, it looks a lot worse than it really is. That little desk on a tile floor? If the officer grabs her arm and tries to pull her up out of the desk, the desk if coming with her, especially when she was resisting and clinging to the desk with her legs.

I'm not saying just give cops a pass to act however they want, but I think the girl got what she needed to get. Maybe she will change her attitude. (Probably not, she will be the victim and it will embolden her to act like even more of an ass)

[justme12001 0]

I have a 16 year daughter, and if she was acting like this in school, I would shake the cops hand!!

I would then proceed to beat her ass when I got home.

She knows this, and knowing this, she doesn't act stupid.

[christelsabine 1]

justme12001

I have a 16 year daughter, and if she was acting like this in school, I would shake the cops hand!!

I would then proceed to beat her ass when I got home.

She knows this, and knowing this, she doesn't act stupid.

Beating children is a criminal offense here in my country. Thx God for that.

If parents need to beat their kids, somethings's wrong in the family. My parents never needed it (we were a bunch of wild kids), I never needed to do (mine are wild, too).

dudeist skydiver # 3105

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aphid

As far as her hitting the officer... I'm 60, fighting medical issues, weaker than shit, and those blows from her would hardly have bothered me. Good lord, if that is justification for throwing a girl across a room, well, I have nothing to say.

This, a thousand times this.
Assuming the removal from the room was justified, if the people defending the police officer here think this is an appropriate way to handle someone like that then that's a worry - and if they are policemen themselves I suggest some remedial training.
I've worked with 20 year old club doormen full of testosterone and very little training who wouldn't have made such a hash of that.

Never try to eat more than you can lift

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cvfd1399

******"4. At this point he is well within his job description to put hands on and remove the kid. "

No he didn't, in fact that as well as him throwing her to the other side of the room were the key points of his firing

Face it.. some people are very very good at excusing any police brutality.. no matter how much they should know better.

And that is a sad state of affairs. People have NO rights in their eyes... COMPLY OR DIE.. and they seem good with that... and the brutality goes on. See the post above what I stated in number 4 was a cold hard FACT are you willing to admit that?

I am willing to admit that an Officer known as OFFICER SLAM... to the students in the school has done this kind of crap before and should be in fucking JAIl...

How does that work for you OFFICER

[futuredivot 0]

The desk throws a lot acceptable techniques out the window. I also didn't see a kid get "thrown across the room". I saw a bad attempt to control (although I'm not sure what would work better) turn into a stumbling mess. I'm seeing a situation get so turned that this kid still won't learn that she has responsibilities for her actions and if nothing changes that, she's going to become one of those adults that make me question my anti baby murder stance.

You are only as strong as the prey you devour

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christelsabine

***I have a 16 year daughter, and if she was acting like this in school, I would shake the cops hand!!

I would then proceed to beat her ass when I got home.

She knows this, and knowing this, she doesn't act stupid.

Beating children is a criminal offense here in my country. Thx God for that.

If parents need to beat their kids, somethings's wrong in the family. My parents never needed it (we were a bunch of wild kids), I never needed to do (mine are wild, too).

You noticed all the supposed parents in this thread willing to brutilize their own children too I see.
And then they wonder WHY this country has such issues with violence... it is LEARNED BEHAVIOR.

[christelsabine 1]

futuredivot

The desk throws a lot acceptable techniques out the window. I also didn't see a kid get "thrown across the room". I saw a bad attempt to control (although I'm not sure what would work better) turn into a stumbling mess. I'm seeing a situation get so turned that this kid still won't learn that she has responsibilities for her actions and if nothing changes that, she's going to become one of those adults that make me question my anti baby murder stance.

Oh boy, you need glasses! I clearly see a tiny girl *thrown across the room* and just try to imagine my personal reaction if this would ever happen to my kid

And for the rest of your idiotic post: I'm just happy to be living far away from you and your ilk/elk (whatsoever)

dudeist skydiver # 3105

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christelsabine

***The desk throws a lot acceptable techniques out the window. I also didn't see a kid get "thrown across the room". I saw a bad attempt to control (although I'm not sure what would work better) turn into a stumbling mess. I'm seeing a situation get so turned that this kid still won't learn that she has responsibilities for her actions and if nothing changes that, she's going to become one of those adults that make me question my anti baby murder stance.

Oh boy, you need glasses! I clearly see a tiny girl *thrown across the room* and just try to imagine my personal reaction if this would ever happen to my kid

And for the rest of your idiotic post: I'm just happy to be living far away from you and your ilk/elk (whatsoever)

I guess they are missing the REST OF THE STORY

Then again I don't think they give a shit...



During a press conference Wednesday afternoon, Richland County Sheriff Leon Lott said the girl should be held accountable for her part. "She is responsible for initiating this action," he said. "What she did doesn't justify what the deputy did."

The girl reportedly suffered arm, neck, back and head injuries, according to her lawyer, Todd Rutherford, who spoke to Good Morning America on Wednesday. Police originally said she had a "rug burn." The girl was reportedly disruptive during class and refused to leave when a teacher asked. Fields was requested to remove the girl from the classroom.

Fields then grabbed and threw her to the ground to place her under arrest. The teacher reportedly supported the actions of Fields, according to Lott.



I think the Teacher should be fired too....

[wmw999 2,534]

While I think it's a little more over the top than you do, I really agree that there isn't a good end to this.

Dunno what her injuries actually are; lawyers are involved. We're I the teacher, I'd have walked around the classroom and just taken the phone. If that weren't possible, then embarrassment in front of her peers would be better. Maybe dragging the whole desk across the room.

With toddlers melting down in a store, the recommendation is simply to remove the child and let them melt. No reaction, if they bang their hands tough. The "tell them once and then make them" approach works better with dogs.

Of course, every end to this loses classroom time; this one has the additional problem of awesome YouTube video.

Wendy P.

There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown)