normiss 801 #26 October 28, 2015 No clue, because they don't. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreeece 2 #27 October 28, 2015 normiss ****** Religion, ISIS, christians, all the same. Convert or die. How does if feel walking around Florida thinking that 7 out of 10 people want to kill you? #thatparanoid No clue, because they don't. I know they don't but you said christians and ISIS were all the same and wanted you to convert to their beliefs or die - I'm guessing you were just trolling again, as usual.Never was there an answer....not without listening, without seeing - Gilmour Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 801 #28 October 28, 2015 Given I was responding to your comment of the same thing....I'm not sure what you mean. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreeece 2 #29 October 28, 2015 normiss Given I was responding to your comment of the same thing....I'm not sure what you mean. Where did I say that christians and ISIS are all the same and want you to convert or die?Never was there an answer....not without listening, without seeing - Gilmour Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 221 #30 October 28, 2015 Coreeece ***Given I was responding to your comment of the same thing....I'm not sure what you mean. Where did I say that christians and ISIS are all the same and want you to convert or die? Kinda like the "understood you"I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #31 October 28, 2015 If I may interject here, Christians, that is true believers, desire that you convert, that is repent, AND live. You are already dead in sin. But, that is YOUR choice. Carry on.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 801 #32 October 28, 2015 But the thing is, that's all in YOUR head. I don't hear voices, repeat what they say, or speak in gibberish. I'd think you could get committed to an institution that way. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreeece 2 #33 October 28, 2015 RonD1120If I may interject here, Christians, that is true believers, desire that you convert, that is repent, AND live. You are already dead in sin. But, that is YOUR choice. Carry on. Which is why even WBC probably doesn't want to kill anyone - it would defeat the purpose of convincing people to repent before it's too late, which is what I believe they are trying to do - albeit in the wrong way, imho.Never was there an answer....not without listening, without seeing - Gilmour Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 801 #34 October 28, 2015 Coreeece ***yea i am with you! what is always the most frustrating is when everyone else doesn't seem to have the same reaction of..WTF this person is insane! I always think they must know their full of shit...right..its even more frightening if they don't i guess. Usually they have to start flying planes into buildings and protesting soldier funerals before you get that level of consensus. So is this where you qualify your comment about insane religious types? It comes across as you comparing Islamic Radicals and christians as one and the same. Which is why I mentioned it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreeece 2 #35 October 28, 2015 normiss ******yea i am with you! what is always the most frustrating is when everyone else doesn't seem to have the same reaction of..WTF this person is insane! I always think they must know their full of shit...right..its even more frightening if they don't i guess. Usually they have to start flying planes into buildings and protesting soldier funerals before you get that level of consensus. So is this where you qualify your comment about insane religious types? It comes across as you comparing Islamic Radicals and christians as one and the same. Which is why I mentioned it. All it means is that most people generally disagree with flying planes into buildings and protesting soldier funerals regardless of your personal beliefs.Never was there an answer....not without listening, without seeing - Gilmour Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,027 #36 October 28, 2015 Coreeece ***Given I was responding to your comment of the same thing....I'm not sure what you mean. Where did I say that christians and ISIS are all the same and want you to convert or die? Inquisition.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 221 #37 October 28, 2015 kallend ******Given I was responding to your comment of the same thing....I'm not sure what you mean. Where did I say that christians and ISIS are all the same and want you to convert or die? Inquisition. Ah, so we should let Islam kill, make, and torture because they will eventually be peaceful.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,027 #38 October 28, 2015 turtlespeed *********Given I was responding to your comment of the same thing....I'm not sure what you mean. Where did I say that christians and ISIS are all the same and want you to convert or die? Inquisition. Ah, so we should let Islam kill, make, and torture because they will eventually be peaceful. If YOU say so. Whatever floats your boat.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 801 #39 October 28, 2015 Who claimed that? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #40 October 28, 2015 normissBut the thing is, that's all in YOUR head. I don't hear voices, repeat what they say, or speak in gibberish. I'd think you could get committeed to an institution that way. Here is a point to ponder. Those who dance are considered crazy by those who cannot here the music. >In 2011, a Pew Forum study of global Christianity found that there were an estimated 279 million classical Pentecostals, making 4 percent of the total world population and 12.8 percent of the world's Christian population Pentecostal.< https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PentecostalismLook for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 801 #41 October 28, 2015 While somewhat challenging to accurately track, the last numbers I saw regarding non-believers put them at approximately 14-18% of the world population. gimme a few seconds....The 2015 Pew Religious Landscape survey reported that as of 2014, 22.8% of the American population is religiously unaffiliated, atheists made up 3.1% and agnostics made up 4% of the US population. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_atheism Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #42 October 28, 2015 I was referring to the Pentecostal faction, of which I am one.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,497 #43 October 29, 2015 QuoteHere is a point to ponder. Those who dance are considered crazy by those who cannot here the music. Sounds good, but literally it's not in the slightest bit true, is it? Everyone knows that music exists and people dance to it. Even if you're deaf the existence of music is a provable thing. It's a physical phenomenon. Like, if you saw someone dancing in the street on his own would you assume he was crazy or guess that he just had an Ipod going?Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stumpy 284 #44 October 29, 2015 jakeeQuoteHere is a point to ponder. Those who dance are considered crazy by those who cannot here the music. Sounds good, but literally it's not in the slightest bit true, is it? Everyone knows that music exists and people dance to it. Even if you're deaf the existence of music is a provable thing. It's a physical phenomenon. Like, if you saw someone dancing in the street on his own would you assume he was crazy or guess that he just had an Ipod going? And just about every religion has its own "music" but as far as you are concerned all the other ones aren't real? To carry on the crazy analogy, you are all in the asylum together. To me, Christianity has nothing to commend or demote it over or under a hundred other religions. Besides, all I said was that Halibut was good enough for Jehovah.Never try to eat more than you can lift Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,996 #45 October 29, 2015 >Who claimed that? Mr. Straw, one of Turtle's closest friends. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tkhayes 348 #46 October 29, 2015 If there were no religion, good people would do good things and evil people would do evil things. But it takes religion to get good people to do evil things. Richard Dawkins I think, but the reason that ISIS wants everyone dead is for religion. And the reason Christians have done the same thing tens of thousands of times over the past millenial is also for religion. None is better than the other - they all just have their moments. religion=peace, my ass. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreeece 2 #47 October 29, 2015 tkhayesIf there were no religion, good people would do good things and evil people would do evil things. Correct - contrary to popular atheistic belief, evil would exist even without religion. The vast majority of wars and violence have been started over non-religious issues. tkhayesBut it takes religion to get good people to do evil things. nonsense, perhaps they were never good to begin with. Even if they were, do you really believe an evil person couldn't persuade them?Never was there an answer....not without listening, without seeing - Gilmour Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
headoverheels 333 #48 October 29, 2015 Coreeece Correct - contrary to popular atheistic belief, evil would exist even without religion. That is a "popular atheist belief" only in your mind. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreeece 2 #49 October 30, 2015 headoverheels*** Correct - contrary to popular atheistic belief, evil would exist even without religion. That is a "popular atheist belief" only in your mind. Ya, well I sure hope so...some people here make me wonder sometimes when they parrot absent-minded quotes about how religion is the only thing that can make good people do evil things, or how religion is the cause of more war than any other reason and that somehow the world would be a better place if it would just go away...blah blah blah. People see these atrocities and they naturally want to find someone or something to blame - which is usually something they don't like nor understand - like guns or religion. Blaming somebody or something else and turning it into a heated political issue is much more satisfying than merely accepting human nature for what it is.Never was there an answer....not without listening, without seeing - Gilmour Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DanG 1 #50 October 30, 2015 QuotePeople see these atrocities and they naturally want to find someone or something to blame - which is usually something they don't like nor understand - like guns or religion. ...or atheists. - Dan G Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
