HR4269 the 2015 "Assault Weapons" ban

[rushmc 23]

normiss

New puppet?

Cant deal with the point?

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[cvfd1399 0]

Don't worry norm is now safe, the "puppet" messaged me the mods blocked his user ID for this forum.

[Boomerdog 0]

https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/house-bill/4269/text

Interesting debate going on here. The URL above provides the language of the bill and it's current status. Therefore, anyone who reads the bill can settle once and for all whether or not there's any buy back program. I don't know beacause I've not read the entire text. But to repeat myself from a previous post. The bill is under consideration in the House Judiciary Committee. There is no record of the Chairman's actions to bring it to committee for a hearing much less a vote on the House Floor. And even before it gets to the floor, the Rules Committee has to approve it then send it to the Speaker for it to finally get approval for a floor vote.

And OBTW, the Chairman of the Judiciary Committee is Congressman Bob Goodlatte (R-VA6) The Sixth Congressional District of Virginia covers the Shenandoah Valley from Winchester all the way down to Roanoke. It's "gun country" folks! This bill IS DOA.

[rushmc 23]

cvfd1399

Don't worry norm is now safe, the "puppet" messaged me the mods blocked his user ID for this forum.

Regardless. He still cant deal with those facts

They gonna whine to the mods about me now?

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[turtlespeed 220]

rushmc

***Don't worry norm is now safe, the "puppet" messaged me the mods blocked his user ID for this forum.

Regardless. He still cant deal with those facts

They gonna whine to the mods about me now?

Is it just me or does someone need to man up and admit he was wrong about the mandatory buy back program in AU?

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun

[Sirfallsalot 0]

Boomerdog

https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/house-bill/4269/text

This bill IS DOA.

Probably so. However, it dispels the notion that some people hold that "no one wants to take away your guns". That bill proves, in fact, that there are at least 125 Representatives who WOULD ban assault weapons, if they had the power to do so.

[tonyhays 86]

Wrong about the AU buy back program in what way?

“That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”

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tonyhays

Wrong about the AU buy back program in what way?

For doubting it was mandatory.

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun

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Probably so. However, it dispels the notion that some people hold that "no one wants to take away your guns". That bill proves, in fact, that there are at least 125 Representatives who WOULD ban assault weapons, if they had the power to do so.

My intent was to put forth the bill as it is and its status without further comment. I've stated in another subject thread, this forum that the ultimate goal of gun control interests is confiscation.

[normiss 801]

Hello Puppet,
It's a damn shame you were apparently banned prior to me responding to your kind and loving message to me.
Such big offensive words!

[Coreeece 2]

Boomerdog

the ultimate goal of gun control interests is confiscation.

...and it's done slowly, piece by piece - you don't destroy the Greatest Country in the history of the world overnight - they've been chipping away for the last 50+ years...

Never was there an answer....not without listening, without seeing - Gilmour

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...and it's done slowly, piece by piece - you don't destroy the Greatest Country in the history of the world overnight - they've been chipping away for the last 50+ years...

There's certainly been a vigorous and sometimes successful attempt. The numbers, however are not on the side of gun grabbers. There are over 300 million firearms in the hands of over 80 million Americans. And the figures I just cited are probably low (and hence in error) since Obama took office. So the same folks that think they can confiscate all these weapons (and jail or shoot the millions who resist) think its impossible to deport the smaller millions of those here illegally. IMHO, there's an inconsistency in logic. Memo to gun grabbers...you can "go in" armed or unarmed, just be prepared to take fire and just understand that those of us who will keep our guns have already come to the understanding of the risks and the possible outcomes. It is highly recommended they do the same.

The majority of gun owners are not going to take too kindly to government edicts of confiscation and I have the strange suspicion many in the government understand this clearly. Thus three fundamental principles are at work here.

1. Quantity has a quality all of its own.
2. Deterence works.
3. Those who wish to screw with the bull better be prepared to deal with the horns.

[SkyDekker 1,465]

Horns. A bull has horns, roses have thorns.

[turtlespeed 220]

SkyDekker

Horns. A bull has horns, roses have thorns.

Translation: I can not argue with your point, so I will attack your grammar and typos.

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun

[SkyDekker 1,465]

turtlespeed

***Horns. A bull has horns, roses have thorns.

Translation: I can not argue with your point, so I will attack your grammar and typos.

Lol, the point is so seriously flawed I am staying away from it. The starting premise was the US is the greatest country ever. Somehow any thought of restrictions on guns is changing that and all guns are going to be taken away. That was followed by a wonderful Rambo style post, which really just reminded me of Occupy Oregon.

In the end, even a bull with bad grammar has horns.

[turtlespeed 220]

SkyDekker

******Horns. A bull has horns, roses have thorns.

Translation: I can not argue with your point, so I will attack your grammar and typos.

Lol, the point is so seriously flawed I am staying away from it.
>>> Meh not provable

The starting premise was the US is the greatest country ever.
>>> I didn't even see where that was implied. Could you show me where that was claimed in his statement?

Somehow any thought of restrictions on guns is changing that and all guns are going to be taken away.
>>> those are clearly articulated, stated goals, and part of the platforms of many liberal "leaders".

That was followed by a wonderful Rambo style post, which really just reminded me of Occupy Oregon.
>>> I'm not clear on what you mean. Did he type as if he was Sylvester Stallone?

In the end, even a bull with bad grammar has horns.
>>> Ya got me on that one.

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun

[Boomerdog 0]

Not to worry. "T" is directly catty corner to "H" on the keyboard and sometimes auto correct just doesn't. I'm sure our right honorable friend from up North has had his kicks and I've corrected the typo.

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Now...with respect to your comments....
I stated in a previous forum that what is going on in Oregon is wrong headed, misguided and a fool's parade or words to that effect.

With respect to the "US being the greatest country ever." That's your inference not mine but I won't encourage or discourage your viewpoint.

Rambo? Surely you jest. It doesn't work that way down here in spite of what movies you've been watching up there. But you, me, everyone else here has unknown factors and quantities in their life none of us is aware of. So after 22 years of military service, I could have been anything from a paper pushing admin officer in a personnel shop to spec ops and anything in between, you'll never know will you and quite frankly I'm not telling. Suffice it to say that I've been sufficiently well trained in the field and in the classroom and in real world ops and more than one superior officer writing my fitness reports over the years identified my decisiveness and resolve to carry out orders, act, say what I mean and mean what I say.

That is all.

[SkyDekker 1,465]

You quoted and directly responded to a sentence with this in it: "...the Greatest Country in the history of the world...". Then you agree with the point and expand on it. I think I am doing more than inferring at that point.

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Rambo? Surely you jest. It doesn't work that way down here in spite of what movies you've been watching up there.

Not talking about movies. I am talking about the attitude often displayed on here about how they are going to stop everything with their gun.

The reference to Occupy Oregon is the displayed attitude of banding together and stopping the big bad government. When you do, remember to bring the toilet paper and cigarettes.

[normiss 801]

Mayonnaise too please.

[Boomerdog 0]

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Not talking about movies. I am talking about the attitude often displayed on here about how they are going to stop everything with their gun.

Rambo IS a movie character and the rest of it is a simple caricature representative of abject ignorance.

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The reference to Occupy Oregon is the displayed attitude of banding together and stopping the big bad government. When you do, remember to bring the toilet paper and cigarettes.

Once again, caricature and abject ignorance. Here's one for you Sparky: "Drop the puck!"

[Coreeece 2]

SkyDekker

You quoted and directly responded to a sentence with this in it: "...the Greatest Country in the history of the world...". Then you agree with the point and expand on it.

Oh, the humanity...

Never was there an answer....not without listening, without seeing - Gilmour

[SkyDekker 1,465]

Boomerdog

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Not talking about movies. I am talking about the attitude often displayed on here about how they are going to stop everything with their gun.

Rambo IS a movie character and the rest of it is a simple caricature representative of abject ignorance.

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The reference to Occupy Oregon is the displayed attitude of banding together and stopping the big bad government. When you do, remember to bring the toilet paper and cigarettes.

Once again, caricature and abject ignorance. Here's one for you Sparky: "Drop the puck!"

Agreed. Those who think they are going to take on the world with their home arsenal are filled with abject ignorance.

If you are going to drop the puck, make sure you keep your head up.

[Boomerdog 0]

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If you are going to drop the puck, make sure you keep your head up.

Not to worry, it ain't my game.

[SkyDekker 1,465]

Boomerdog

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If you are going to drop the puck, make sure you keep your head up.

Not to worry, it ain't my game.

Clearly.