winsor 236 #26 March 3, 2016 ryoder ************I'm asking turtle. And, "she's evil," is not really much of an answer. In what way do you think her evil manifests itself? She turned me into a Newt. Did you get better? Of course. Did you immediately get the urge to write a "Contract with America"? Mine is a Contract ON America. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 221 #27 March 3, 2016 DanG Again, why? Too many reasons for me to take the time to write them all out. Here is One example. She is no better than Brian Williams. Quote 11) ‘Landing under sniper fire’ in Bosnia In her March 17, 2008, foreign-policy speech on Iraq, then-Sen. Hillary Clinton recalled a trip she made to Tuzla, Bosnia, in 1996. “I remember landing under sniper fire,” Hillary said of her visit while she was first lady. “There was supposed to be some kind of a greeting ceremony at the airport, but instead we just ran with our heads down to get into the vehicles to get to our base.” But news footage of her visit revealed her “sniper fire” claim wasn’t just exaggerated. It was completely false. And Hillary had repeated the claim several times, including during her time on the presidential campaign trail in 2007. Rather, Hillary landed on a tarmac and greeted a crowd, including an 8-year-old child who gave her a poem, under no duress. According to the Washington Post, a review of more than 100 news articles revealed no security threats to Hillary at the time. Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2015/05/here-they-are-hillarys-22-biggest-scandals-ever/#EWV2jqKhvfSbe4jU.99 I just googled what I remembered of the incident - I'm not sure about the credibility of the site. If she will be a liar about little things like that, how can anyone think she is fit to hold office. It has already been proven that democrats, and this administration, use the IRS as a weapon. Do you think this is below her moral character? In a simple answer to a short, but complex question of "Why?" It is that Trump will damage the country less than another Clinton would. Also, we get the benefit of shaking up the electoral processes, and hopefully bring better candidates to the forefront in 4 years.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DanG 1 #28 March 3, 2016 Quote If she will be a liar about little things like that, how can anyone think she is fit to hold office. But Trump's even worse. He lies about everything. The idea that he "tells it like it is" is a complete load of shit. He says whatever he thinks sounds good in the moment, and when gets called on his lies, he just makes up more lies. Quote In a simple answer to a short, but complex question of "Why?" It is that Trump will damage the country less than another Clinton would. I disagree. I think Trump could be disastrous. I think under Clinton it would be business as usual. Not that business as usual is good, but it would be better than what Trump might do. Quote Also, we get the benefit of shaking up the electoral processes, and hopefully bring better candidates to the forefront in 4 years. Maybe. Or future candidates will realize that the way to win is act like Trump. - Dan G Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 818 #29 March 3, 2016 I'm fond of his "I'm funding my campaign" comments. There's a profit motive there. He doesn't do anything unless there's something in it for him. He's a sham. His healthcare plan will make the ACA look like the promised land. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #30 March 3, 2016 DanG Quote Psychopathic behavior is common among the major CEOs and politicians. It is a factor of success. What definition of psychopathic behavior are you using? The following are a couple of articles from Psychology Today. I tried to find the one on top level executives with psychopathic tendencies but did not. https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/mindmelding/201301/what-is-psychopath-0 https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/wicked-deeds/201401/how-tell-sociopath-psychopathLook for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #31 March 3, 2016 DanG Maybe. Or future candidates will realize that the way to win is act like Trump. One could make the argument that Trump has been seeing candidates use strawman arguments, mean spirited attacks, and thin illogical appeals to emotion for the last several elections. and he's a quick learner and is just applying those observations at a MUCH higher level and we're surprised he's sucking in the lowest common denominator from both parties? (half the people in the world are below average) ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,535 #32 March 3, 2016 Quote One could make the argument that Trump has been seeing candidates use strawman arguments, mean spirited attacks, and thin illogical appeals to emotion for the last several elections. and he's a quick learner and is just applying those observations at a MUCH higher level You could make that argument about the rest of the GOP candidates, but its pretty easily demonstrable that Trump in this election is simply acting in the exact same way that he has acted for his entire life.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #33 March 3, 2016 jakee Quote One could make the argument that Trump has been seeing candidates use strawman arguments, mean spirited attacks, and thin illogical appeals to emotion for the last several elections. and he's a quick learner and is just applying those observations at a MUCH higher level You could make that argument about the rest of the GOP candidates, but its pretty easily demonstrable that Trump in this election is simply acting in the exact same way that he has acted for his entire life. I agree (your 'easy demonstration' is the fact of how natural it is for him to be a complete jackass). But that argument and your observation are not mutually exclusive either. (I know you only want to point out the Reps, but let's not exclude the Dems either - they mastered those techniques long ago. You might not see it so easily if you've bought into the standard strawmen of only the one side and not both) here's a great pic for this thread ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Croc 0 #34 March 4, 2016 kallend Given the choice between a narcissistic blowhard foulmouthed xenophobic insincere lying spoiled silver-spooned bigot with bad hair whose policy positions are fluid, and Ted Cruz, I'll take the bad hair guy. Pretty much sums it up for me."Here's a good specimen of my own wisdom. Something is so, except when it isn't so." Charles Fort, commenting on the many contradictions of astronomy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ControlFreak 0 #35 March 5, 2016 jimmytavino Once again it is looking like a Presidential Election with POOR choices , all around... ^^^^ This Probably the most intelligent summary I've read. Anywhere.Alcohol never really solved any problems. But then again, neither did milk. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,485 #36 March 5, 2016 Article in today's Houston Chronicle about local Christians' dilemma about whether one can pick the lesser of two evils, or does it require a write-in. Example of Trump as advocating torture and racist government, and Clinton as pro-choice (with some power to make something Coke of it). Side discussion on how someone with "evil" views but no power to enforce them might be just fine; e.g. A sheriff candidate who is pro-choice. Wendy P.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #37 March 5, 2016 From this weeks episode of "Wait Wait...Don't Tell Me!": Peter Sagal: "What will the GOP do next to try to get rid of Trump?" Bobcat Goldthwait: "They are going to secretly replace his self-tanner with barbecue sauce, then wait for him to stand dangerously close to Chris Christie." "There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfriverjoe 1,523 #38 March 5, 2016 ryoder From this weeks episode of "Wait Wait...Don't Tell Me!": Peter Sagal: "What will the GOP do next to try to get rid of Trump?" Bobcat Goldthwait: "They are going to secretly replace his self-tanner with barbecue sauce, then wait for him to stand dangerously close to Chris Christie." Yeah. I heard that too. We can only wish. "There are NO situations which do not call for a French Maid outfit." Lucky McSwervy "~ya don't GET old by being weak & stupid!" - Airtwardo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 221 #39 March 5, 2016 ryoder From this weeks episode of "Wait Wait...Don't Tell Me!": Peter Sagal: "What will the GOP do next to try to get rid of Trump?" Bobcat Goldthwait: "They are going to secretly replace his self-tanner with barbecue sauce, then wait for him to stand dangerously close to Chris Christie." That's funny right there, I don't care who you are!I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 221 #40 March 6, 2016 Nuff Said! I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreeece 2 #41 March 6, 2016 wmw999 Article in today's Houston Chronicle about local Christians' dilemma about whether one can pick the lesser of two evils, or does it require a write-in. The only dilemma I have is whether to write-in Kasich or some non-candidate that I would actually want to be president - but that really has nothing to do with my faith. I would vote for a homosexual atheist if I agreed with his idea of running a country - which I should add - has nothing to do with homosexuality nor atheism. With my two small businesses, I would build his campaign headquarters and produce his television ads - but I wouldn't want to participate in any atheistic nor homosexual activities, such as eating babies or filming his marriage to the first twink. Is that too much to ask?Never was there an answer....not without listening, without seeing - Gilmour Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,067 #42 March 6, 2016 turtlespeed Nuff Said! Bringing yourself down to Trump's level.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 2,218 #43 March 6, 2016 kallend ***Nuff Said! Bringing yourself down to Trump's level. I respectfully disagree John. Nothing Trump has said or done yet is quite as low or infantile as this.Always remember the brave children who died defending your right to bear arms. Freedom is not free. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nolhtairt 0 #44 March 6, 2016 gowlerk ******Nuff Said! Bringing yourself down to Trump's level. I respectfully disagree John. Nothing Trump has said or done yet is quite as low or infantile as this. Hey, he didn't shit on a pic of Hillary. The dog did. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stumpy 284 #45 March 6, 2016 nolhtairt Hey, he didn't shit on a pic of Hillary. The dog did. Give him time, he's still concentrating on primaries.... Never try to eat more than you can lift Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 221 #46 March 6, 2016 gowlerk ******Nuff Said! Bringing yourself down to Trump's level. I respectfully disagree John. Nothing Trump has said or done yet is quite as low or infantile as this. I tell you what - Hillary comes clean on all the back room bullshit she is involved with and becomes honest about it and I'll vote for her.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 2,218 #47 March 6, 2016 Quote Hillary comes clean on all the back room bullshit she is involved with and becomes honest about it and I'll vote for her. You'll never vote for her, you hate her. But I'll tell you what, the world is full of backroom deals. That's where business gets done. Read a little about the hero Reagan's backroom bullshit.Always remember the brave children who died defending your right to bear arms. Freedom is not free. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,387 #48 March 6, 2016 Hi turtle, Quote all the back room bullshit she is involved with Got any proof to anything other than subjective conjecture? If so, I would like to read it. Jerry Baumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 221 #49 March 6, 2016 gowlerk Quote Hillary comes clean on all the back room bullshit she is involved with and becomes honest about it and I'll vote for her. You'll never vote for her, you hate her. But I'll tell you what, the world is full of backroom deals. That's where business gets done. Read a little about the hero Reagan's backroom bullshit.'If she came clean - I would vote for her. The fact that she knows she was caught in lies and still says, "Heh, Waddnt me" is the main reaso why I despise her (I don't HATE anyone) Just like her marriage of convenience to Bill. Who, said "I never had sexual relations with that woman". And to this day claims innocence. Stand up, Man up, and admit what you did wrong. THEN you can have my respect.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 221 #50 March 6, 2016 JerryBaumchen Hi turtle, Quote all the back room bullshit she is involved with Got any proof to anything other than subjective conjecture? If so, I would like to read it. Jerry Baumchen >>>> I bet you believe OJ was innocent too. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whitewater_controversy >>>> She also says she "Misspoke" about having to run for her life, under sniper fire.Really? You can't remember correctly if you were shot at or not? Really? Maybe she gets shot at so much she couldn't remember which incident she was speaking of? Her response: Quote "I say a lot of things -- millions of words a day -- so if I misspoke, that was just a misstatement," she said. In a radio interview that aired Tuesday, Clinton said she wasn't worried about the incident hurting her credibility. She says a LOT of things - and doesn't actually remember which ones are true. THAT is my kind of president.>>>> She won't own up to any of these either! http://www.politifact.com/personalities/hillary-clinton/statements/byruling/false/ >>>> I know you are a Hillary lover, but do some research - you can find it if you take off your blinders. That is all the time I have to devote to doing your own homework.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
