Donald Trump Versus Hillary Clinton

[rushmc 23]

I did not see battery in the video
That is all I asserted,

You all moved the goal posts to the lie issue.

Did he grab her arm? I think he did.

Did he commit battery? I do not think he did and neither does the county attorney.

At least not enough of a physical contact to prosecute.

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[rushmc 23]

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Rush can't admit he did lay hands on her

not that it is relevant but I have.

I only asserted I did not see battery committed in the video.

Then the topic morphed into a lying issue.

I guess I saw the same way the law did huh.....

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[normiss 801]

A law dictionary would help you immensely.

[rushmc 23]

normiss

A law dictionary would help you immensely.

don't need a dictionary. Another lawyer whose job is to look at those types of things decided there wasn't anything to prosecute. Sorry you can't believe that or understand it. Just not your belief system and you feel like a gotcha got away from you

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[normiss 801]

LOL

Amazing how clueless you are on pretty much every topic in here.

[rushmc 23]

normiss

LOL

Amazing how clueless you are on pretty much every topic in here.

If clueless means not agreeing with you! All I can do is thank God

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[DanG 1]

The lawyer who decided not to prosecute said he made that decision because there wasn't enough evidence to ensure a conviction. He didn't say that there wasn't anything to prosecute, or that a crime was not committed.

Either way, I don't think the guy should have prosecuted in the first place. However, it shows the level of slimy deception endemic in the Trump campaign that he and Trump both continued to lie about what happened even after the video surfaced.

- Dan G

[rushmc 23]

Giving your reply, I think you're on the same level of those you vilify.

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[jakee 1,490]

rushmc

Charges dropped

Yes. So what? How does that change the brazen lies he has been telling, and is still telling, ever since the incident?

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No evidence to move forward

Not true. From your own link (Rush didn't read his own link? I'm shocked and amazed):

"They acted well within their authority to investigate and make an independent charging decision. We agree that probable cause exists for the Jupiter Police Department to charge Mr. Lewandwoski in this case," Aronberg said. "Our standard is higher than probable cause. ... Although the facts support the allegation that Mr. Lewandowski did grab Ms. Fields' arm against her will, Mr. Lewandowski has a reasonable hypothesis of innocence"

So, the State attorney agrees that Lewandowski did exactly what Fields accused him of doing, and exactly what he has been lying about doing ever since.

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No more simple than that

As shown, certainly not simple. And certainly not if you don't care about the charges (as I said while they were still being pursued) but about the outright lies that were being told and are being told with the backing of the Trump campaign.

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

[jakee 1,490]

rushmc

***A law dictionary would help you immensely.

don't need a dictionary. Another lawyer whose job is to look at those types of things decided there wasn't anything to prosecute. Sorry you can't believe that or understand it. Just not your belief system and you feel like a gotcha got away from you

We don't believe it because it's not true. It's not true because you lack the capacity to understand the information contained in the story you thought was supporting you.

If they'd known you'd be reading it I'm sure they'd have dumbed it down some more for you, but alas they didn't.

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

[jakee 1,490]

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1 - reporter budged in through security - security doesn't do their job quickly enough

Lol, nah.

If you believe the Trump line that she barged through the Secret Service and they were so concerned that they got his campaign manager to grab her for them... I got some bridges for sale.

In fact, it's retty awesome how you've managed to misinterpret this entire thread so badly. Did you do it on purpose?

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

[billvon 2,991]

>Did he commit battery? I do not think he did and neither does the county attorney.

The prosecutor actually said he DID think it constituted battery under Florida law.

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Trump Campaign Manager Will Not Be Prosecuted
April 13, 2016
By Taegan Goddard

A Florida prosecutor has decided not to prosecute Trump campaign manager Corey Lewandowski for battery after a run-in with a journalist, Politico reports.

“Many lawyers said they just didn’t think jurors would think of this case as a battery, even though it met the technical threshold for the crime under Florida law."
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I eagerly await your next twist.

[DanG 1]

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Giving your reply, I think you're on the same level of those you vilify.

What a load of horseshit.

You're just in reflexive attack mode now. I could say I like your shoes and you'd attack me for it.

- Dan G

[wolfriverjoe 1,523]

jakee

"They acted well within their authority to investigate and make an independent charging decision. We agree that probable cause exists for the Jupiter Police Department to charge Mr. Lewandwoski in this case," Aronberg said. "Our standard is higher than probable cause. ... Although the facts support the allegation that Mr. Lewandowski did grab Ms. Fields' arm against her will, Mr. Lewandowski has a reasonable hypothesis of innocence"

Ahh yes. The US "Justice" system.

Whether or not a crime was committed?
Whether or not there's probable cause to believe so?

Irrelevant.

Whether or not they can get a conviction?
How they will look if they take it to trial and lose?

That is what matters.

"There are NO situations which do not call for a French Maid outfit." Lucky McSwervy

"~ya don't GET old by being weak & stupid!" - Airtwardo

[jakee 1,490]

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You're just in reflexive attack mode now

Now? That is his mode, isn't it?

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

[SkyDekker 1,465]

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I did not see battery in the video
That is all I asserted,

The guy said he never touched her.

Is that a lie or not?

[SkyDekker 1,465]

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1 - reporter budged in through security - security doesn't do their job quickly enough

Right. Reporter slipped by the secret service detail and the campaign manager had to come to the rescue. Sounds plausible.

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2 - some guy physically moves her aside

And systematically denies he touched her.

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she's an attention hound and, also, media whores

Except she worked for a direct Trump mouthpiece.

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they ignore that charges aren't filed

He was charged.


You normally aren't wrong this much. You may want to phone a friend and go for a do-over.

[normiss 801]

He quite simply refuses the technical and legal definition of battery.
While wanting Hillary hung and quartered with zero proof of anything.
It looks rather insane actually.

[jakee 1,490]

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So what is this? about 25 straight posts of people pissing about how they view an innocuous action vs their definitions of what "guilty" means to themselves just to say 'gotcha' to each other.

Just going to reply to this again because your bias shows so strongly on this one and you're so wrong about it.

It's not about the innocuous action, it's about the response to it. And not even just the lies upon lies upon lies but the frankly malevolent character assassination to go with it.

Remember that Lewandowski publicly accused Fields of being a serial fantasist in response to her absolutely 100% true statement about him. For a reporter, that is a potentially career ending allegation. Just let that sink in for a moment - he attempted to ruin this woman's career rather than admit to a simple 'innocuous action' that he clearly, provably committed.

The man is pond scum, his arguments are those that a 5 year old with his hand caught in the cookie jar would use and he has Trump's full support every step of the way.

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

[billvon 2,991]

>Right. Reporter slipped by the secret service detail and the campaign manager had to come to the
>rescue. Sounds plausible.

Well, she was found with a pen on her. It could have been a little bomb. And we all know the secret service won't go near someone with a pen. (They just want to go home to their families at the end of the day, after all . . . .)

[jakee 1,490]

billvon

>Right. Reporter slipped by the secret service detail and the campaign manager had to come to the
>rescue. Sounds plausible.

Well, she was found with a pen on her. It could have been a little bomb. And we all know the secret service won't go near someone with a pen. (They just want to go home to their families at the end of the day, after all . . . .)

And then after being told by the secret service to stop a potential assassin with a bomb... he forgot all about it!



"Hey Corey, remember that chick yesterday at the speech?"

"I dunno Don, what chick?"

"The chick who broke through the secret service."

"Not ringing any bells bro!"

"You grabbed her away from me like the agents told you to."

"Are you sure it was me?"

"Of course it was you man! You must remember, she had a pen that looked like a little bomb and she was going to blow my fingers off with it"

"Seriously Don, I got nothing. It's a total blank to me."

"Jesus Corey, how can you not remember this, it was like 6 hours ago!"

"Dude..... I smoked a lot of weed in high school, 'kay?"

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

[mr2mk1g 10]

jakee

"Of course it was you man! You must remember, she had a pen that looked like a little bomb and she was going to blow my fingers off with it"

Wouldn't want to be accused of having small hands after all.

[normiss 801]

Is Trump being the punch line the reason he's so angry?

[ryoder 1,590]

normiss

Is Trump being the punch line the reason he's so angry?

Seth Meyers that night: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Km4R377s4M

"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones.

[rushmc 23]

normiss

A law dictionary would help you immensely.

Just in case you are still worried about people lying about this......
Funny how this shit circles don't you think?

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Prosecutor: Michelle Fields Denied Touching Trump, ‘and That’s Not What We See Captured on Video’

http://www.breitbart.com/big-journalism/2016/04/15/prosecutor-michelle-fields-denied-touching-trump/

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln