JerryBaumchen 1,363 #851 April 20, 2016 Hi Robert, Quote Pssst! Donald, it was 9/11, not 7/11. And to think that people actually support this dufus. Jerry Baumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #852 April 20, 2016 JerryBaumchen Hi Robert, Quote Pssst! Donald, it was 9/11, not 7/11. And to think that people actually support this dufus. Jerry Baumchen I put that in the simple silly mistake category, (like Obama's 57 states). In Trump's case, it is one of the less dumbass things he has said."There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 220 #853 April 20, 2016 DanGQuoteI'll also expect you to agree that there was blame placed on the video (that no one seems to know what is being referenced anymore) There was blame placed on the video. And there were many other video related riots around the region that same day. Do you think it is unreasonable for the Administration to assume that this attack was related to all the other attacks that happened sat the same time? And when I say everyone knew it was a terror attack I mean that any attack of this sort is a terror attack. It was intended to create terror. When Clinton e-mailed her family to say that a terror attack occurred it doesn't mean she knew the why, how, and who of the attack. QuoteThe truth was that there were weapons being supplied out of that embassy that drove the attacks, the admin KNEW it, they didn't beef up security, and they tried to cover it up. The gun running thing is conjecture as far as I know. If you have a source that backs that up, I'd love to see it. Is the Washington Times Ok with you? http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/oct/20/hillary-clinton-state-department-approved-us-weapo/?page=allI'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
headoverheels 333 #854 April 20, 2016 turtlespeed The gun running thing is conjecture as far as I know. If you have a source that backs that up, I'd love to see it. Is the Washington Times Ok with you? http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/oct/20/hillary-clinton-state-department-approved-us-weapo/?page=all That article seem to support that there is only conjecture about any actual shipments of guns. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 220 #855 April 20, 2016 headoverheels *** The gun running thing is conjecture as far as I know. If you have a source that backs that up, I'd love to see it. Is the Washington Times Ok with you? http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/oct/20/hillary-clinton-state-department-approved-us-weapo/?page=all That article seem to support that there is only conjecture about any actual shipments of guns. As if the government would tell us the truth anyway. Quote Nonetheless, the existence of the documents and the temporary approval of at least one U.S. arms shipment provides the most direct evidence that Hillary Rodham Clinton’s State Department was aware of efforts to get weapons into the hands of rebels seeking to oust Gadhafi. I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DanG 1 #856 April 20, 2016 Washington Times? You are joking, right? Times != Post - Dan G Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,991 #857 April 20, 2016 "Nonetheless, the existence of the documents and the temporary approval of at least one U.S. arms shipment provides the most direct evidence that Hillary Rodham Clinton’s State Department was aware of efforts to get weapons into the hands of rebels seeking to oust Gadhafi." It's funny. I remember the right wing cheering over the revolution in Libya, claiming that it was an example of how Bush's policies were working to fight terror-supporting regimes. I guess that was only true until they discovered a democrat was involved. Then it became damning evidence of a criminal act. On the plus side, perhaps we will discover that Cruz had something to do with it too, at which point the right wing will slew back to "oh, so you supported Gadhafi's terrorism?" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,363 #858 April 20, 2016 Hi Robert, Quotesimple silly mistake category You're absolutely correct. Maybe I should cut him a little slack; but he is stiill a dufus. Jerry Baumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 801 #859 April 20, 2016 I'd bet he's never even been in a 7-11. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 220 #860 April 20, 2016 billvon"Nonetheless, the existence of the documents and the temporary approval of at least one U.S. arms shipment provides the most direct evidence that Hillary Rodham Clinton’s State Department was aware of efforts to get weapons into the hands of rebels seeking to oust Gadhafi." It's funny. I remember the right wing cheering over the revolution in Libya, claiming that it was an example of how Bush's policies were working to fight terror-supporting regimes. I guess that was only true until they discovered a democrat was involved. Then it became damning evidence of a criminal act. On the plus side, perhaps we will discover that Cruz had something to do with it too, at which point the right wing will slew back to "oh, so you supported Gadhafi's terrorism?" Huh?I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
434 2 #861 April 20, 2016 Seems like its going to happen :D Who is your visepresident and foreign minister? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #862 April 20, 2016 Foreign Minister has to be Palin. Ivanka will probably get Vice President. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfriverjoe 1,523 #863 April 20, 2016 434Seems like its going to happen :D Who is your Vice President and foreign minister Secretary of State (we have 'Secretaries', not 'Ministers') ? We'll see what happens. The R party leadership is having a collective heart attack. I wonder what kind of dirty tricks they will try to pull and how much they think they can get away with (and how much they actually can get away with). Christie for VP. If Trump is smart, he'll pull a long time, high level State Dept person for SecState. But I'll bet pretty heavy that he won't be smart and try to bring in some dufus."There are NO situations which do not call for a French Maid outfit." Lucky McSwervy "~ya don't GET old by being weak & stupid!" - Airtwardo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
okalb 104 #864 April 20, 2016 wolfriverjoeChristie for VP. My guess for VP will be Rick Scott. He has been angling for it and Trump will argue that Scott is a successful business man just like him, not a career politician.Time flies like an arrow....fruit flies like a banana Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 801 #865 April 20, 2016 I have a few co-workers who said if he picks Scott, they would actually vote Trump. To remove him as governor. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #866 April 20, 2016 Ya know . . . if there was ever any doubt about how far skewed this forum is compared to the rest of the country, then people ought to look at the results of this poll, then look at some of the real world polling about Hillary vs Trump. http://pollingreport.com/wh16gen.htm Even FoxNews shows Hillary beating Trump by a wide margin, yet the poll for this thread shows Trump winning. What does that say?quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,991 #867 April 20, 2016 >What does that say? That most posters here lean towards the right. But we knew that already. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #868 April 20, 2016 billvon>What does that say? That most posters here lean towards the right. But we knew that already. voters, not posters I'm sad that "non" (no? none? neither?) is so small. They are both so despicable. It pretty much shows that voters here don't care about the president, just the party..... the "other" party...... and how much they hate it. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 2,193 #869 April 20, 2016 QuoteWhat does that say? That the skydiving subculture in America is largely white, male, and lower middle class.Always remember the brave children who died defending your right to bear arms. Freedom is not free. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,490 #870 April 20, 2016 Quote It pretty much shows that voters here don't care about the president, just the party..... the "other" party...... and how much they hate it. Or it shows that the way the question was phrased was 'choose between those two' instead of 'tell us if you'd vote for either, or an independent / write-in, or not vote'. But don't let me stop you rushing to judge...Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #871 April 20, 2016 jakeeOr it shows that the way the question was phrased was 'choose between those two' instead of 'tell us if you'd vote for either, or an independent / write-in, or not vote'. There will be no credible 3rd party option. A no vote is a vote of "I don't give a shit." Almost everyone here has some opinion and at least gives a little bit of a shit.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 220 #872 April 21, 2016 billvon>What does that say? That most posters here lean towards the right. But we knew that already. Posters or lurkers?I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,991 #873 April 21, 2016 >>>>What does that say? >>That most posters here lean towards the right. But we knew that already. >voters, not posters Well, the requirement for people to vote on that poll is that they are registered on the site, not that they vote. (And most people who vote on polls also post in my experience.) So it really only speaks to how the people who come to SC lean. >It pretty much shows that voters here don't care about the president, just the party..... the >"other" party...... and how much they hate it. I think that's been true for the past 30 years or so. One of the (potential) good things about Trump is they may cause some people who vote straight along party lines to think about whether or not that's always a good idea. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #874 April 21, 2016 billvonI think that's been true for the past 30 years or so. One of the (potential) good things about Trump is they may cause some people who vote straight along party lines to think about whether or not that's always a good idea. the thought seems to apply to all 4 of these candidates ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #875 April 21, 2016 turtlespeed***>What does that say? That most posters here lean towards the right. But we knew that already. Posters or lurkers? Poster being those that actually comment, lurkers being those that vote but don't comment ever Neither - BillV considers 'members' to be posters - whether they actually ever post in a thread or not. So it's a fun opportunity to have another crappy semantics argument. Another consideration if you also just look at those that comment - You have to consider the en masse group left leaning squad here to be just 'one' entity - by definition, a single social collective. Then, it's not three of the usual righties (one could count them as individuals - I'm finding that false considering the blind groupthink of Trump followers, but that's another post) posting a couple opinions opinions getting belittled and attacked and PA'd by a crowd of the usual 9 lefties in concert (1 to 3 ratio in favor of the left). it's actually just 3 righties getting lectured on the appropriate way to think and that they should be ashamed of their horribleness by 1 highly intelligent and righteous entity doing it for the good of society (3 to one ratio in favor of the right). And a handful of us watching with popcorn, and usually Wendy trying to be nice about it and still intelligent. (Gowlerk too I think and a couple others still trying too, but that usually goes away eventually - it's exhausting) ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
