DanG 1 #326 March 18, 2016 QuoteMB is not about faith at all! It is partially about faith, but mostly about political power. Just like any political organization that claims a faith basis. - Dan G Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfriverjoe 1,523 #327 March 18, 2016 billvon>Anyway, my concern is the surreptitious subversion of our government and culture by the Muslim >Brotherhood under the guidance and approval of the BHO administration. Thank you for, once again, demonstrating my point. Well, obviously Ron feels that Muslims are the "enemy" and he believes that Obama is usurping power to destroy America. And to him, beliefs and feelings are more important and trustworthy that facts and logic."There are NO situations which do not call for a French Maid outfit." Lucky McSwervy "~ya don't GET old by being weak & stupid!" - Airtwardo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #328 March 18, 2016 Rstanley0312***QuoteNo. Simply - NO. People should have the freedom to support whatever religion they want, ONLY if it never hurts any other individual, or infringes on another individual's human rights. So people shouldn't be allowed to support any religions at all, huh? MB is not about faith at all! Nor is Scientology. Yet your government rolled over and played dead when confronted by them. And....not a peep from the population. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rstanley0312 1 #329 March 18, 2016 SkyDekker******QuoteNo. Simply - NO. People should have the freedom to support whatever religion they want, ONLY if it never hurts any other individual, or infringes on another individual's human rights. So people shouldn't be allowed to support any religions at all, huh? MB is not about faith at all! Nor is Scientology. Yet your government rolled over and played dead when confronted by them. And....not a peep from the population. Agreed! MB is the next step though. THey have an agenda far more sinister than Scientology. Both evil in my mind though.Life is all about ass....either you're kicking it, kissing it, working it off, or trying to get a piece of it. Muff Brother #4382 Dudeist Skydiver #000 www.fundraiseadventure.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #330 March 18, 2016 wolfriverjoe***>Anyway, my concern is the surreptitious subversion of our government and culture by the Muslim >Brotherhood under the guidance and approval of the BHO administration. Thank you for, once again, demonstrating my point. Well, obviously Ron feels that Muslims are the "enemy" and he believes that Obama is usurping power to destroy America. And to him, beliefs and feelings are more important and trustworthy that facts and logic. Well they certainly are in this forum as well as Hillary's State Department and presidential campaign.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #331 March 18, 2016 Who? Muslims? Evil, end of world bringing Muslims? They are everywhere Ron. Better check behind that tree outside your door, I am pretty sure one of those evil Muslims is hiding there.....just waiting for you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #332 March 18, 2016 SkyDekkerWho? Muslims? Evil, end of world bringing Muslims? They are everywhere Ron. Better check behind that tree outside your door, I am pretty sure one of those evil Muslims is hiding there.....just waiting for you. They are conspicuous by their absence in this area.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,445 #333 March 18, 2016 Sundown city?Wendy P. There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #334 March 18, 2016 wmw999 Sundown city?Wendy P. Hmmm, maybe sunrise town would be more accurate.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 220 #335 March 18, 2016 DanGQuoteNo. Simply - NO. People should have the freedom to support whatever religion they want, ONLY if it never hurts any other individual, or infringes on another individual's human rights. So people shouldn't be allowed to support any religions at all, huh? Not if the religions infringe upon any human rights, No. Definitely not if they are harmful to anyone.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DanG 1 #336 March 18, 2016 QuoteNot if the religions infringe upon any human rights, No. Definitely not if they are harmful to anyone. So then, all existing religions are out. - Dan G Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,991 #337 March 18, 2016 >People should have the freedom to support whatever religion they want, ONLY if it never hurts any >other individual, or infringes on another individual's human rights. I agree, for the most part. I can't get my driver's license renewed on Christmas because of the Christians, I have to wait longer for red lights in New York because of the Jews living there, and I have to pay more in taxes to maintain the Easter Cross in San Diego. I am OK with that level of infringement. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 220 #338 March 18, 2016 billvon>People should have the freedom to support whatever religion they want, ONLY if it never hurts any >other individual, or infringes on another individual's human rights. I agree, for the most part. I can't get my driver's license renewed on Christmas because of the Christians, I have to wait longer for red lights in New York because of the Jews living there, and I have to pay more in taxes to maintain the Easter Cross in San Diego. I am OK with that level of infringement. I suppose what you would define as infringement could be subjective. It's the "Harm" that I am more strongly against, and any monies forcibly taken from the public via tax, or the public coffers by tax loophole, and given to the religions.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
headoverheels 333 #339 March 19, 2016 RonD1120 ***Sundown city?Wendy P. Hmmm, maybe sunrise town would be more accurate. Hmmm, maybe Hickville would be more accurate. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #340 March 19, 2016 headoverheels ******Sundown city?Wendy P. Hmmm, maybe sunrise town would be more accurate. Hmmm, maybe Hickville would be more accurate. Not really, there are a lot of retired professionals in this area, military, civil service, etc. It is important to live with your tribe for safety and fellowship. Liberals should live in CA, NY and like places. Muslims should stay in Dearborn, MI. Cubans have taken over southern FL and that's there place. Everyone is free to visit and examine the other cultures but they do not mix well on a long term basis. I spent time in CO, NM and CA. The first two areas were compatible but I realized that CA was not suitable. It takes all kinds to make a world but it is best to live with your own kind. That is a factor in Trump's popularity. There's been too much mixing going on. It makes folks angry.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,445 #341 March 19, 2016 Actually, people who want to separate from others should self-segregate legally and socially, as you have largely done. However, they should not expect others to do the same for their comfort. Social, not geographical or political, institutions are appropriate for self-segregation. Otherwise you're assigning a lesser value to the rights of others, and why the heck should any one group of citizens have that right. Wendy P.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #342 March 19, 2016 wmw999Actually, people who want to separate from others should self-segregate legally and socially, as you have largely done. However, they should not expect others to do the same for their comfort. Social, not geographical or political, institutions are appropriate for self-segregation. Otherwise you're assigning a lesser value to the rights of others, and why the heck should any one group of citizens have that right. Wendy P. I agree. Stay with your tribe and you will be OK.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,445 #343 March 19, 2016 I think the difference is that you want everyone to self segregate. I only think that people who want to should. It's kind of like the law, too. Wendy P.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #344 March 19, 2016 wmw999I think the difference is that you want everyone to self segregate. I only think that people who want to should. It's kind of like the law, too. Wendy P. I believe that folks self segregate naturally. It is when they forced to open their borders that things get dicey. Please come for a visit and enjoy the natural beauty, the customs and the food. Now go home. If you want to live here you will have to adopt and adapt to us. Do not expect us to adapt to you. Regardless of the laws, it is what it is. Folks just do that naturally and it is foolhardy to interfere with outside policy and procedure. There is a folktale here about how the Cherokee fought with the Seminole. Then the tribal chiefs got together and agreed to a peace treaty. Seminoles came north to hunt the mountains and they walked so slow on the trails the Cherokees couldn't get anywhere on time. The chiefs got together and decided the peace treaty did not work. They went back to fighting each other and everything was normal again and everyone was happy.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,445 #345 March 19, 2016 Then the white people came and got rid of them. Wendy P.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #346 March 19, 2016 wmw999Then the white people came and got rid of them. Wendy P. "White people", there it is, your Caucasian guilt. There is another tale of how God's blessing was on the Cherokee from their origination and the ministry that came at the end of the Trail of Tears. It is quite lengthy but you can find it on Youtube by Perry Stone.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #347 March 19, 2016 From last night's "Real Time with Bill Maher"; Dude in pink shirt is GOP Strategist Rick Wilson. Listen to what he has to say about Christie's endorsement of Trump in the first minute of this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-spudb4lzHo "There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,489 #348 March 19, 2016 QuoteIf you want to live here you will have to adopt and adapt to us Or, if they want to live there they can live there in whatever manner they choose and if you don't like it you can fuck off somewhere else even more remote.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #349 March 19, 2016 jakeeQuoteIf you want to live here you will have to adopt and adapt to us Or, if they want to live there they can live there in whatever manner they choose and if you don't like it you can fuck off somewhere else even more remote. The reality is that is not likely to happen. SATLook for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,991 #350 March 19, 2016 >If you want to live here you will have to adopt and adapt to us. That's true of you as well. If you want to live here, you will have to adapt to a country that was founded by undocumented immigrants, that has grown almost exclusively via an open-border immigration policy, and is now a mix of races, religions, sexualities and beliefs. If you want to live here you'll have to adapt to a society of Budweiser, margaritas, same-sex marriage, interracial marriage, kindergarten, and Muslims sharing power with Christians, Jews and atheists. If you want to live here you'll have to accept that a lot of people in the US speak Spanish and Chinese as well as English, and that we don't have a national language. Don't want to live with our culture? Then you are free to leave - or live in a compound with other like-minded people. That way you can live your own life and leave other people free to live theirs. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites