nolhtairt 0 #1 March 22, 2016 No surprise this came 4 days after a Paris attack suspect was captured in Brussels. I expect a ramp-up of bombings and raids on ISIS in response. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 2,246 #2 March 22, 2016 nolhtairtNo surprise this came 4 days after a Paris attack suspect was captured in Brussels. I expect a ramp-up of bombings and raids on ISIS in response. My guess is that they knew he would talk. So they struck before they could be rounded up.Always remember the brave children who died defending your right to bear arms. Freedom is not free. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 845 #3 March 22, 2016 Thought the same thing, even given the timing, it seems in response to actions based upon info he was already giving them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #4 March 22, 2016 SMH Senseless - Fucking - Religions!I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #5 March 22, 2016 "Have you noticed that every nation that opens their arms to Muslim refugees gets repaid with destruction and body count." ~Author UnknownLook for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #6 March 22, 2016 RonD1120"Have you noticed that every nation that opens their arms to Muslim refugees gets repaid with destruction and body count." ~Author Unknown "Have you ever noticed some cowardly bigots will always find a way to voice their beliefs in a way that can't be traced back to them?" -- Anonymous/NotReallyAnonymousquade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 2,246 #7 March 22, 2016 Have you noticed that every nation that fails to keep control of firearms among the population gets repaid with destruction and body count? Body counts far in excess of any ever managed by any terrorist group that has ever existed? Author, Ken Gowler, adapted from unknownAlways remember the brave children who died defending your right to bear arms. Freedom is not free. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #8 March 23, 2016 quade***"Have you noticed that every nation that opens their arms to Muslim refugees gets repaid with destruction and body count." ~Author Unknown "Have you ever noticed some cowardly bigots will always find a way to voice their beliefs in a way that can't be traced back to them?" -- Anonymous/NotReallyAnonymous So if you are for the Muslims killing in terrorist stacks as a byproduct of being PC, AND in that same statement, label anyone that doesn't are with you WRT the refugees as a cowardly bigot. Paint with a wide brush much? Just curious - is "cowardly bigot" a personal attack - or do mods get a free pass on the whole PA thing?I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #9 March 23, 2016 Only if you're making the assumption I believe Ron wrote the words and hid behind them. Obviously a good Christian wouldn't do that. I'm simply responding to the "unknown" author.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 2,246 #10 March 23, 2016 QuoteJust curious - is "cowardly bigot" a personal attack - or do mods get a free pass on the whole PA thing? It's only a PA if "unknown" is a person who makes a complaint.Always remember the brave children who died defending your right to bear arms. Freedom is not free. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhaig 0 #11 March 23, 2016 gowlerkQuoteJust curious - is "cowardly bigot" a personal attack - or do mods get a free pass on the whole PA thing? It's only a PA if "unknown" is a person who makes a complaint. and the mods pretty much get a pass too-- Rob Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 2,246 #12 March 23, 2016 Quoteand the mods pretty much get a pass too Meh....It just goes with the high salary, stock options, and all the other mod benefits. I hear they have quite a generous package.Always remember the brave children who died defending your right to bear arms. Freedom is not free. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
winsor 236 #13 March 23, 2016 gowlerkHave you noticed that every nation that fails to keep control of firearms among the population gets repaid with destruction and body count? Body counts far in excess of any ever managed by any terrorist group that has ever existed? Author, Ken Gowler, adapted from unknown "Have you noticed that every society that allows citizens to drive cars and freely obtain alcohol gets repaid with carnage greater than that caused by firearms?" The Shadow BTW, 'Mein Kampf' was illegal when I lived in Germany, since it was considered unprotected hate speech, and those who sought to follow its teachings were ostracized. Since 'Mein Kampf' is a study in sweetness and light compared to the Koran, it would make sense to treat it an its adherents similarly. Since the Profit Muhammad (may he rot in hell) was an unabashedly murderous perverted psychopath, the Suras are not open to much in the way of interpretation. It's like saying Jeffrey Dahmer may have killed and eaten young men, but that wasn't what he really meant when he spoke about it. Bullshit. Muhammad was a truly evil human being, a sexual predator who was vicious as the day is long, every much as Jeffrey Dahmer was a necropheliac cannibal. If anything, Jeffrey Dahmer had more to recommend him. If anyone was to form a cult that revered Jeffrey Dahmer, the only response could be "dude, you are beyond fucked up," yet somehow we are supposed to 'respect' people who follow someone who makes Jeffrey Dahmer look like a Boy Scout. Religion of peace? Read the fucking book. Most of it is about subjugating anyone who is not totally on board with whatever Muhammad said, and by the time you get to Sura 9 the tone is screw it, kill anyone who strays at all. This is, of course, not the slightest bit metaphorical. The old story comes to mind of the person who nursed a snake back from near-death, only to be surprised to be bitten by it. "Hey, you knew I was a snake, didn't you?" I have known Socialists/Communists who had not read The Communist Manifesto or any of the other works of Marx, Lenin et al. (I have); they just cherry picked what they thought were the key points. Similarly, I have known devout Christians who had not read any translation of the Hebrew and Christian scriptures in their entirety (I have), but took all of it as The Truth (tm). Similarly, many Muslims do not speak or read Arabic, and know the Koran only by liturgical rote, and others have never taken the time to wade through it (it's a dreadful read). Thus, when they say "it's a religion of peace," as far as they know, it is. It turns out that the adherents who rape and slaughter are following the Muslim writings line and verse. Those who do not are those who have not picked up on the instruction to do so in no uncertain terms. Since the game plan to get the hot and cold running virgins (virgins are overrated) is to slaughter as many innocents as possible in the process, the idea that the only good Muslim is a dead one rings false. There is nothing good about the assholes who victimized Brussels, Paris or much of anyone else in the process of becoming dead. I do not recommend responding to Muslims in kind, since is is like wrestling with a pig. What I would like to see is to have Islam treated like the KKK. If a Grand Mufti and a Grand Dragon got equal respect, it would be an improvement. If wearing a burqua and wearing a white hood were seen as equivalent, that would be a start. You can be a Klansman or a Muslim, but please keep it to yourself. BSBD, Winsor Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,106 #14 March 23, 2016 RonD1120"Have you noticed that every nation that opens their arms to Muslim refugees gets repaid with destruction and body count." ~Author Unknown Were the perps refugees? "Refugee" has a very specific meaning.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nigel99 559 #15 March 23, 2016 RonD1120 "Have you noticed that every nation that opens their arms to Muslim refugees gets repaid with destruction and body count." ~Author Unknown You know I really get pissed off with closed minded and biggoted people. I've got two young Muslims on my team at work both with PHDs in engineering and one is from Iraq and the other Iran. They were discussing how bad the attacks were and what makes people do something so horrific. It's ironic how similar Western fundamentalists are, it's just they celebrate predator drones hitting the 'towel heads'. Perhaps a little introspection on what your God said to old George Bush when 'he' told him to bring body count and destruction to the MuslimsExperienced jumper - someone who has made mistakes more often than I have and lived. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #16 March 23, 2016 quade***"Have you noticed that every nation that opens their arms to Muslim refugees gets repaid with destruction and body count." ~Author Unknown "Have you ever noticed some cowardly bigots will always find a way to voice their beliefs in a way that can't be traced back to them?" -- Anonymous/NotReallyAnonymous I am not afraid to put my name on my words. I saw that quote on FB. I do not trust Muslims. I do not like thugs.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #17 March 23, 2016 kallend***"Have you noticed that every nation that opens their arms to Muslim refugees gets repaid with destruction and body count." ~Author Unknown Were the perps refugees? "Refugee" has a very specific meaning. Maybe they were just illegal immigrants. You know, like here in the U.S. Ours are just sleeping now.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nigel99 559 #18 March 23, 2016 RonD1120******"Have you noticed that every nation that opens their arms to Muslim refugees gets repaid with destruction and body count." ~Author Unknown "Have you ever noticed some cowardly bigots will always find a way to voice their beliefs in a way that can't be traced back to them?" -- Anonymous/NotReallyAnonymous I am not afraid to put my name on my words. I saw that quote on FB. I do not trust Muslims. I do not like thugs. Well to be frank any adult with an invisible friend is already of questionable mental health.Experienced jumper - someone who has made mistakes more often than I have and lived. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #19 March 23, 2016 RonD1120******"Have you noticed that every nation that opens their arms to Muslim refugees gets repaid with destruction and body count." ~Author Unknown Were the perps refugees? "Refugee" has a very specific meaning. Maybe they were just illegal immigrants. You know, like here in the U.S. Ours are just sleeping now. Probably just lived in the Belgian mountains with like minded people.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stumpy 284 #20 March 23, 2016 I get your point but: SkyDekker Belgian mountains That's funny Never try to eat more than you can lift Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #21 March 23, 2016 SkyDekker*********"Have you noticed that every nation that opens their arms to Muslim refugees gets repaid with destruction and body count." ~Author Unknown Were the perps refugees? "Refugee" has a very specific meaning. Maybe they were just illegal immigrants. You know, like here in the U.S. Ours are just sleeping now. Probably just lived in the Belgian mountains with like minded people.... I love how y'all bash on Ron while defending the terrorists to do so.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 2,246 #22 March 23, 2016 winsor***Have you noticed that every nation that fails to keep control of firearms among the population gets repaid with destruction and body count? Body counts far in excess of any ever managed by any terrorist group that has ever existed? Author, Ken Gowler, adapted from unknown "Have you noticed that every society that allows citizens to drive cars and freely obtain alcohol gets repaid with carnage greater than that caused by firearms?" The Shadow BTW, 'Mein Kampf' was illegal when I lived in Germany, since it was considered unprotected hate speech, and those who sought to follow its teachings were ostracized. Since 'Mein Kampf' is a study in sweetness and light compared to the Koran, it would make sense to treat it an its adherents similarly. Since the Profit Muhammad (may he rot in hell) was an unabashedly murderous perverted psychopath, the Suras are not open to much in the way of interpretation. It's like saying Jeffrey Dahmer may have killed and eaten young men, but that wasn't what he really meant when he spoke about it. Bullshit. Muhammad was a truly evil human being, a sexual predator who was vicious as the day is long, every much as Jeffrey Dahmer was a necropheliac cannibal. If anything, Jeffrey Dahmer had more to recommend him. If anyone was to form a cult that revered Jeffrey Dahmer, the only response could be "dude, you are beyond fucked up," yet somehow we are supposed to 'respect' people who follow someone who makes Jeffrey Dahmer look like a Boy Scout. Religion of peace? Read the fucking book. Most of it is about subjugating anyone who is not totally on board with whatever Muhammad said, and by the time you get to Sura 9 the tone is screw it, kill anyone who strays at all. This is, of course, not the slightest bit metaphorical. The old story comes to mind of the person who nursed a snake back from near-death, only to be surprised to be bitten by it. "Hey, you knew I was a snake, didn't you?" I have known Socialists/Communists who had not read The Communist Manifesto or any of the other works of Marx, Lenin et al. (I have); they just cherry picked what they thought were the key points. Similarly, I have known devout Christians who had not read any translation of the Hebrew and Christian scriptures in their entirety (I have), but took all of it as The Truth (tm). Similarly, many Muslims do not speak or read Arabic, and know the Koran only by liturgical rote, and others have never taken the time to wade through it (it's a dreadful read). Thus, when they say "it's a religion of peace," as far as they know, it is. It turns out that the adherents who rape and slaughter are following the Muslim writings line and verse. Those who do not are those who have not picked up on the instruction to do so in no uncertain terms. Since the game plan to get the hot and cold running virgins (virgins are overrated) is to slaughter as many innocents as possible in the process, the idea that the only good Muslim is a dead one rings false. There is nothing good about the assholes who victimized Brussels, Paris or much of anyone else in the process of becoming dead. I do not recommend responding to Muslims in kind, since is is like wrestling with a pig. What I would like to see is to have Islam treated like the KKK. If a Grand Mufti and a Grand Dragon got equal respect, it would be an improvement. If wearing a burqua and wearing a white hood were seen as equivalent, that would be a start. You can be a Klansman or a Muslim, but please keep it to yourself. BSBD, Winsor I'm no fan of religions in general, and of the faiths called "Abrahamic" I dislike Islam the most. For all the reasons you give. At 3 Billion adherents, I'd say it's imperative that the world find a way of coping with them. It's not like they are a sect that is going away. I don't care what the Prophet taught, or what the Koran says. I care only what the people are doing. The terrorism is not coming from the refugees. The refugees are the victims of the extremists. Islam is at war with itself. Far more than it is with the west. It is struggling between the 5th century view and the modern view. I have no answer on how to end this nightmare. But blaming the refugees is not helpful. Personally, I'd be happy to see the west attack and destroy both Mecca and Medina. Turn them into smoking piles of radioactive ash. Maybe Putin can come across from the East.Always remember the brave children who died defending your right to bear arms. Freedom is not free. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #23 March 23, 2016 Stumpy I get your point but: *** Belgian mountains That's funny Little creative liberty...Belgium is pretty flat. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #24 March 23, 2016 turtlespeed************"Have you noticed that every nation that opens their arms to Muslim refugees gets repaid with destruction and body count." ~Author Unknown Were the perps refugees? "Refugee" has a very specific meaning. Maybe they were just illegal immigrants. You know, like here in the U.S. Ours are just sleeping now. Probably just lived in the Belgian mountains with like minded people.... I love how y'all bash on Ron while defending the terrorists to do so. Who is defending terrorists? I simply see very little difference between Ron's mindset and that of extreme Muslims. Neither are acceptable in my opinion. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,106 #25 March 23, 2016 nigel99 ***"Have you noticed that every nation that opens their arms to Muslim refugees gets repaid with destruction and body count." ~Author Unknown You know I really get pissed off with closed minded and biggoted people. I've got two young Muslims on my team at work both with PHDs in engineering and one is from Iraq and the other Iran. They were discussing how bad the attacks were and what makes people do something so horrific. It's ironic how similar Western fundamentalists are, it's just they celebrate predator drones hitting the 'towel heads'. Perhaps a little introspection on what your God said to old George Bush when 'he' told him to bring body count and destruction to the MuslimsI don't recall much American outrage over Catholics when the IRA was regularly bombing London, Birmingham, Manchester, and other cities in the UK and producing a much higher body count. In fact, the American response was mostly to send guns and money to the terrorists.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites