United Health Care to leave Obamacare

[brenthutch 444]

Loosing nearly a half a billion dollars. The death spiral begins.

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brenthutch

Loosing nearly a half a billion dollars. The death spiral begins.

Where are those millions going to go?

I hope some find their way into my pocket!

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun

[brenthutch 444]

It did already, remember, Obamacare was going to save every man woman and child $2500 every year.

[kallend 2,108]

brenthutch

It did already, remember, Obamacare was going to save every man woman and child $2500 every year.

It did for me.

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

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kallend

***It did already, remember, Obamacare was going to save every man woman and child $2500 every year.

It did for me.

so you admit it helps the rich

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Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants

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rehmwa

******It did already, remember, Obamacare was going to save every man woman and child $2500 every year.

It did for me.

so you admit it helps the rich

I wouldn't say that. It didn't help me at all, and I am rich.

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SkyDekker

*********It did already, remember, Obamacare was going to save every man woman and child $2500 every year.

It did for me.

so you admit it helps the rich

I wouldn't say that. It didn't help me at all, and I am rich.

Yeah you are!

Exactly how many dollars are being loosed, though?

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun

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turtlespeed

************It did already, remember, Obamacare was going to save every man woman and child $2500 every year.

It did for me.

so you admit it helps the rich

I wouldn't say that. It didn't help me at all, and I am rich.

Yeah you are!

Exactly how many dollars are being loosed, though?


What does that mean?

(no Ron, I'm not talking to you)

[turtlespeed 226]

The OP:

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Loosing nearly a half a billion dollars. The death spiral begins.

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun

[SkyDekker 1,465]

turtlespeed

************It did already, remember, Obamacare was going to save every man woman and child $2500 every year.

It did for me.

so you admit it helps the rich

I wouldn't say that. It didn't help me at all, and I am rich.

Yeah you are!

Exactly how many dollars are being loosed, though?

This is Canada, we Moose them.

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SkyDekker

***Yeah you are!

Exactly how many dollars are being loosed, though?

This is Canada, we Moose them.

That doesn't sound sanitary.

But, then again, this is a thread about routing dollars through government....

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Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants

[normiss 858]

Nice.
I missed it!

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rehmwa

******Yeah you are!

Exactly how many dollars are being loosed, though?

This is Canada, we Moose them.

That doesn't sound sanitary.

But, then again, this is a thread about routing dollars through government....

So because of United Health Care bowing out of Obamacare, it's freeing up a half a bil?

That actually sounds good to me.

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun

[normiss 858]

Especially to those of us with UHC.

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SkyDekker

This is Canada, we Moose them.

Nothing wrong with a little Moose

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Moosie

***

This is Canada, we Moose them.

Nothing wrong with a little Moose

I have some in the freezer.....make a good moose stew.

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SkyDekker

******

This is Canada, we Moose them.

Nothing wrong with a little Moose

I have some in the freezer.....make a good moose stew.

Moose stew is awfully tasty. That's not even some weird euphemism.

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Moosie

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This is Canada, we Moose them.

Nothing wrong with a little Moose

I have some in the freezer.....make a good moose stew.

Moose stew is awfully tasty. That's not even some weird euphemism.

I tend to gravitate toward turtle soup.

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun

[brenthutch 444]

Hemsley explained that UnitedHealth will leave most states by 2017 because the markets for these exchanges are relatively small and also have higher risks for the company over the short-term.
As such, he said UnitedHealth (UNH) could not serve these exchanges on an "effective and sustained basis."
It shouldn't come as a huge surprise. UnitedHealth had previously said that it lost $475 million on the ACA exchanges last year and could lose another $500 million this year."

Progressive wet dream run into the brutal buzz saw of economic reality.

[gowlerk 2,253]

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Progressive pipe dream run into the brutal buzz saw of economic reality.

Universal health care is a fact, not a pipe dream, in every western democracy but one.

Always remember the brave children who died defending your right to bear arms. Freedom is not free.

[brenthutch 444]

Forgive me, but I would like to think that the US aspires to be a bit more than Canada, France, Liechtenstein, Venezuela and Cuba.

I'm just saying

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brenthutch

Forgive me, but I would like to think that the US aspires to be a bit more than Canada, France, Liechtenstein, Venezuela and Cuba.

I'm just saying

And the UK. And the Netherlands. And Germany. And Australia.. and and and and.


that the US aspires to be more than everyone, I'm not doubting. But to use that arrogance as an argument against universal health care is, well, arrogant.

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brenthutch

Forgive me, but I would like to think that the US aspires to be a bit more

A bit more "what", exactly?

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than Canada, France, Liechtenstein, Venezuela and Cuba.

If you are going to denigrate democracies that offer universal health insurance coverage, you might choose your examples a little better. And maybe a more complete sampling?

For your edification, here are just a few more (@2012):

Australia, New Zealand, Norway, Germany, the UK, Belgium, Sweden, Holland, Denmark, Portugal, Finland, Spain, Switzerland.

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I'm just saying

Of course you were.

[brenthutch 444]

And your point????
Liberal European social democracies living under Uncle Sam'security umbrella? The externalities born by the US, yada yada, yada...........fill in the blanks.