London elects its first Muslim mayor

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whe I say we are to many selvfish people on this earth?

Have you been taking English lessons from RushMC?

Never try to eat more than you can lift

[jakee 1,564]

Stumpy

***whe I say we are to many selvfish people on this earth?

Have you been taking English lessons from RushMC?

A) When a Norwegian dude's drunk english resembles an American dude's best English it doesn't reflect that badly on the Scandi.

B) Any good recipes for selvfish out there? Sounds like it'd go well in a fish and vegetable broth.

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

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jakee

******Except that while it would be anathema for a Nazi to be pro gay rights, pro religious freedom, pro racial equality and generally pro civil liberties there are a number of centre left Muslim politicians who manage it quite well.

There were rather a few ardent Nazis who were every bit as egalitarian as the muslims you cite.

Except there weren't. There were Party members of convenience, but that's not the same thing.

Wrong.

There were those who were able to rise to levels in the military that would have been impossible under Prussian tradition without a "von" in their name, and they owed it all to the Party.

They did not, however, adhere to every tenet of that particular ism.

I consider Islam to be significantly more evil than National Socialism, and am less comfortable working with Muslims than Nazis.


BSBD,

Winsor

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winsor

*********Except that while it would be anathema for a Nazi to be pro gay rights, pro religious freedom, pro racial equality and generally pro civil liberties there are a number of centre left Muslim politicians who manage it quite well.

There were rather a few ardent Nazis who were every bit as egalitarian as the muslims you cite.

Except there weren't. There were Party members of convenience, but that's not the same thing.

Wrong.

Right.

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There were those who were able to rise to levels in the military that would have been impossible under Prussian tradition without a "von" in their name, and they owed it all to the Party.

QED.

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They did not, however, adhere to every tenet of that particular ism.

Not so ardent then, were they?

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I consider Islam to be significantly more evil than National Socialism, and am less comfortable working with Muslims than Nazis.

Which says more about you than about muslims, but I'm sure you know that.

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

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I wonder if he'll be allowed to visit the US next year?

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mr2mk1g

I wonder if he'll be allowed to visit the US next year?

Maybe we should ask those that would bar Trump from coping into their country.

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun

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turtlespeed

***I wonder if he'll be allowed to visit the US next year?

Maybe we should ask those that would bar Trump from coping into their country.like who?

Never try to eat more than you can lift

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Stumpy

******I wonder if he'll be allowed to visit the US next year?

Maybe we should ask those that would bar Trump from coping into their country.like who?

I dunno -

Maybe. - Parliment?

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun

[Stumpy 284]

turtlespeed

*********I wonder if he'll be allowed to visit the US next year?

Maybe we should ask those that would bar Drumpf from coping into their country.like who?

I dunno -

Maybe. - Parliment?

yep - I thought that might be what you referring to. You should probably read your own article. They debated it because a petition, started by a journalist, reached a threshold. Nothing to do with any of parliament actually proposing anything.

"A petition to ban Drumpf was started by Suzanne Kelly, a freelance journalist in Aberdeen, Scotland, where Drumpf owns a nearby golf course and is a divisive figure. She was angry over Drumpf's call to ban Muslims from entering the United States. Kelly's petition clearly hit a nerve, as it quickly gained enough signatures to be put forward as a topic of debate in Parliament. More than 575,000 people have signed it.

The debate is nonbinding, though. No vote of any kind will be held, so there will be no substantive result. In fact, opposition lawmaker Paul Flynn, who's leading the debate, thinks a ban could be counterproductive, as it could make Drumpf seem unfairly victimized and boost him in the eyes of Americans.
In the end, it will probably be more of an opportunity for politicians to vent their thoughts about Drumpf under the protection of parliamentary privilege, which allows them to say what they want without being accused of defamation or slander.

Never try to eat more than you can lift

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Hi Stumpy,

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You should probably read your own article.

Surely, you jest.

Jerry Baumchen

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turtlespeed

*********I wonder if he'll be allowed to visit the US next year?

Maybe we should ask those that would bar Trump from coping into their country.like who?

I dunno -

Maybe. - Parliment?

If you would actually read that link, (which explains enough about how parliament works to give the debate context) you'd understand that the answer is 'not Parliament'.

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

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Stumpy

************I wonder if he'll be allowed to visit the US next year?

Maybe we should ask those that would bar Drumpf from coping into their country.like who?

I dunno -

Maybe. - Parliment?

yep - I thought that might be what you referring to. You should probably read your own article. They debated it because a petition, started by a journalist, reached a threshold. Nothing to do with any of parliament actually proposing anything.

"A petition to ban Drumpf was started by Suzanne Kelly, a freelance journalist in Aberdeen, Scotland, where Drumpf owns a nearby golf course and is a divisive figure. She was angry over Drumpf's call to ban Muslims from entering the United States. Kelly's petition clearly hit a nerve, as it quickly gained enough signatures to be put forward as a topic of debate in Parliament. More than 575,000 people have signed it.

The debate is nonbinding, though. No vote of any kind will be held, so there will be no substantive result. In fact, opposition lawmaker Paul Flynn, who's leading the debate, thinks a ban could be counterproductive, as it could make Drumpf seem unfairly victimized and boost him in the eyes of Americans.
In the end, it will probably be more of an opportunity for politicians to vent their thoughts about Drumpf under the protection of parliamentary privilege, which allows them to say what they want without being accused of defamation or slander.

Nothing like parliamentary price ledge to be able to slander someone.
Maybe one of our journalists should start a petition to see if we could get our government to openly debate the banning of the London Mayor to our country. Then they could use their protective price ledges to do likewise.

Would that make you happy then?

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun

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jakee

************I wonder if he'll be allowed to visit the US next year?

Maybe we should ask those that would bar Trump from coping into their country.like who?

I dunno -

Maybe. - Parliment?

If you would actually read that link, (which explains enough about how parliament works to give the debate context) you'd understand that the answer is 'not Parliament'.


Look above . . . See the cute little bolder words?

Just sayin'.

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun

[jakee 1,564]

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Maybe one of our journalists should start a petition to see if we could get our government to openly debate the banning of the London Mayor to our country.

Maybe. Does Congress work that way?

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Then they could use their protective priveleges to do likewise.

They could, though I don't know what slander they could come up with that wasn't already used by his racist opponent.

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Would that make you happy then?

Why would that make anyone happy?

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

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turtlespeed

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I dunno -

Maybe. - Parliment?

If you would actually read that link, (which explains enough about how parliament works to give the debate context) you'd understand that the answer is 'not Parliament'.


Look above . . . See the cute little bolder words?

Just sayin'.

The point still stands. If you'd read your own link you would have known and you wouldn't have thought maybe.

Duh.

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

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turtlespeed

***************I wonder if he'll be allowed to visit the US next year?

Maybe we should ask those that would bar Trump from coping into their country.like who?

I dunno -

Maybe. - Parliment?

If you would actually read that link, (which explains enough about how parliament works to give the debate context) you'd understand that the answer is 'not Parliament'.


Look above . . . See the cute little bolder words?

Just sayin'.

You lost this one plain and simple. Just man up and admit it.

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[RMK 3]

I live in London and have voted in every mayoral election since the early 1990’s. Oddly, this discussion on Sadiq Khan’s religious affiliation is only really making news in the US press. I’m here every day; I’m not seeing/hearing it discussed much at all. He could be Buddhist or any other random religion; we don’t really care.

In our mayoral election process, you choose a first and second choice. After having a look at the candidates, I voted 1st choice) Kahn first and 2nd choice) Goldsmith. To me political party means nothing for a mayoral role; I go with the best guy. Though I work with people like Zack Goldsmith ever day of the week, I know he has a distorted view of life. He wasn’t my second choice because I liked him; it was just that the rest of the pack were a bunch of nutcases and I had to choose someone (so not too different than American politics)

"Pain is the best instructor, but no one wants to attend his classes"

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RMK

I live in London (snip)... In our mayoral election process, you choose a first and second choice.

If you only indicate a first choice, leaving a second choice blank, is your ballot discarded?

[RMK 3]

Uncertain, but the voting booth paperwork said to make two separate choices. Here's how it works:

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/ng-interactive/2016/may/04/london-mayoral-election-how-to-make-the-most-of-your-second-vote

"Pain is the best instructor, but no one wants to attend his classes"

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kallend

******************I wonder if he'll be allowed to visit the US next year?

Maybe we should ask those that would bar Trump from coping into their country.like who?

I dunno -

Maybe. - Parliment?

If you would actually read that link, (which explains enough about how parliament works to give the debate context) you'd understand that the answer is 'not Parliament'.


Look above . . . See the cute little bolder words?

Just sayin'.

You lost this one plain and simple. Just man up and admit it.

I read it, I understood it. It doesn't lessen the fact that people in the country of tolerance and liberals (well that may be Canada)started a petition to discriminate against an individual. How tolerant of them. How accepting.

But when the tables are turned, it would obviously be a travesty to even consider it. But it's OK because Trump is running against Hillary.

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun

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I read it, I understood it. It doesn't lessen the fact that people in the country of tolerance and liberals (well that may be Canada)started a petition to discriminate against an individual. How tolerant of them. How accepting.

But when the tables are turned, it would obviously be a travesty to even consider it. But it's OK because Trump is running against Hillary.

Taking action against a specific individual because of the statements or activities of that specific individual is not discrimination. Taking action against an entire class of people because of the statements or activities of a small percentage of people in that class is discrimination.

But you knew that.

- Dan G

[SkyDekker 1,465]

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started a petition to discriminate against an individual.

That's not really how discrimination works. You tend to discriminate based on membership or perceived membership to a group. Don't think that captures this scenario. But a nice way to try and twist the meaning of words to fit your agenda.

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SkyDekker

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started a petition to discriminate against an individual.

That's not really how discrimination works. You tend to discriminate based on membership or perceived membership to a group. Don't think that captures this scenario. But a nice way to try and twist the meaning of words to fit your agenda.

. Is he not the representative of a group of like minded individuals?

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun

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turtlespeed

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started a petition to discriminate against an individual.

That's not really how discrimination works. You tend to discriminate based on membership or perceived membership to a group. Don't think that captures this scenario. But a nice way to try and twist the meaning of words to fit your agenda.

. Is he not the representative of a group of like minded individuals?

Did all of those people get included in the discussion of being banned to enter the US?

Do you maybe see the difference between the above and banning all Muslims from the US.

One is discrimination, the other is not.