Nah, this would never happen.......it has.

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Yes, but the stat for Chicago will read 1 bad cop, where really it was how many bad cops? How many knew what happened or parts of it and knew it was wrong, but said or did nothing?

Look below

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There are agencies (I would argue elements within those agencies) which have a culture that needs to change, I agree.

Did you not read this? The Sheriff in the video says the same thing.

Chicago has about 12,244 sworn officers and over 1,925 other employees.

"Just 'cause I'm simple, don't mean I'm stewpid!"

[normiss 800]

Sheriff Judd is an asshat.
I've seen enough of his idiocy and lies for too long.
Thanks anyway.

I'm sorry if the truth hurts you, it's a serious issue.

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Sheriff Judd is an asshat.
I've seen enough of his idiocy and lies for too long.

You can't refute anything he says, so you call him names.
I get it.

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I'm sorry if the truth hurts you, it's a serious issue.

Disinformation and false narratives are my issue.

Police misconduct has been, and always will be a serious issue. I've never said it isn't, but assumptions and the like run rampant.

"Just 'cause I'm simple, don't mean I'm stewpid!"

[skycop 0]

An example of proactive police work, and the results that can happen.
A guy, riding his bike, in the street at 11pm in a residential area.
When asked his info and where he lives, he's evasive and not from the area.
Turns out he was wanted and was carrying a gun.
I've done this prolly several hundred times, it's a legit Terry vs. Ohio stop.
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=32d_1473206254

This happens all over the country, thousands of times each night (and day), luckily without this result.
If this was your neighborhood, you'd want this officer out "doing his job". Unfortunately, in some areas of the country these type stops have all but dried up. Mainly because officers don't want to be the next Darren Wilson.

"Just 'cause I'm simple, don't mean I'm stewpid!"

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Actually yeah, I have missed any post you've made where you have agreed with any criticism of the police in Ferguson. I've only seen the comments you made where you said the people who police the police are all corrupt liars.

Then you are simply wrong, again.

But that is par for the course.

We've all seen the posts where you dismiss the DoJ report as a politically motivated hatchet job by corrupt investigators. If you could link to the post or posts where you agree with any part of it that is critical of the Ferguson police department then please do.

Otherwise, I simply don't believe you.

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

[skycop 0]

The sky is red, I see.

"Hands up, Don't shoot".............

"Just 'cause I'm simple, don't mean I'm stewpid!"

[jakee 1,489]

skycop

The sky is red, I see.

Yeah, that's exactly what you see.

You did dismiss the criticisms from DoJ report as corrupt, politically motivated falsehoods and if you're now claiming that you agreed with some of it this is brand new information.

And if you're claiming that you posted here that you agreed with any part of the DoJ report that was critical of the Ferguson PD then unless you can link to it, I'm going to say you're simply not telling the truth. Because again, no, I did not see it.

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

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skycop

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Speaking of blue walls.
This is the perfect example.

The truth, it hurts sometimes, especially when it interrupts assumptions and false narratives.

But please, refute one thing the Sheriff said in the video.

You are using propaganda video from an elected politician to back up your supposedly scientific reasoning.

[SkyDekker 1,465]

skycop

An example of proactive police work, and the results that can happen.
A guy, riding his bike, in the street at 11pm in a residential area.
When asked his info and where he lives, he's evasive and not from the area.
Turns out he was wanted and was carrying a gun.
I've done this prolly several hundred times, it's a legit Terry vs. Ohio stop.
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=32d_1473206254

This happens all over the country, thousands of times each night (and day), luckily without this result.
If this was your neighborhood, you'd want this officer out "doing his job". Unfortunately, in some areas of the country these type stops have all but dried up. Mainly because officers don't want to be the next Darren Wilson.

Then quit your fucking job if you can't handle it. Take some responsibility for yourself in stead of blaming everybody else.

In the mean time work on the issue of public perception of police. This would involve stopping the us vs. them mentality. Blaming everybody else for the bad reputation police now has. It has taken decades of a very thick blue line to build this problem, it is going to take a while to change it.

So far the narrative of it is all the media's fault isn't helping.

You can think I am wrong all you want, you can think I just hate cops all you want, you can continue to stick your head in the sand thinking nothing is wrong, all you want. But it doesn't change what is needed.

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You are using propaganda video from an elected politician to back up your supposedly scientific reasoning.

Propaganda video?

This was a Tampa Investigative Reporters attempt to spring a "gotcha" moment for his story. He ended up looking like a fool. I'll give him some credit for posting the video, even when it made him look bad.

The local media isn't the focus, it's the agenda driven national 24 hour cycle. I've said that numerous times in this and other threads. It's the AP level and above that take the most liberties with the truth.

You must have also missed the post where I've stated the cops own some of this. I even posted a Frontline episode where it showed misuse of Terry Stops, and how it can lead to mistrust and other issues.

The stats quoted are accurate, but facts confuse and anger some people.

"Just 'cause I'm simple, don't mean I'm stewpid!"

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The stats quoted are accurate, but facts confuse and anger some people.

As said before. The stats are not even close to being accurate. Your continued insistence that these stats are correct shows you are trying to downplay what has happened.

How many of these doctored stories have been accepted as truth, simply because there was no video to show any different?

How many officers stayed silent?

[normiss 800]

So you cherry pick a video for the exact same purpose, from a religious idiot who does the same thing including making politically, religious, hyperbolic lies to make wrongful arrests.
You clearly know nothing about this particular sheriff other than he has videos that support your message and agenda.
Hello Mr. Pot.
As you said, "The stats quoted are accurate, but facts confuse and anger some people." True on both sides of the coin.

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normiss

So you cherry pick a video for the exact same purpose, from a religious idiot who does the same thing including making politically, religious, hyperbolic lies to make wrongful arrests.
You clearly know nothing about this particular sheriff other than he has videos that support your message and agenda.
Hello Mr. Pot.
As you said, "The stats quoted are accurate, but facts confuse and anger some people." True on both sides of the coin.

This is how I see the argument you put forth.

It's out of context in that it is about religion.
However the knee jerk tea in to the bias still rings true.
Her reaction is telling as well.

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun

[normiss 800]

Proving you also know nothing of this sheriff.

[normiss 800]

One less worry for the BLM haters

I'm sure the investigation will be top notch.

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So you cherry pick a video for the exact same purpose, from a religious idiot who does the same thing including making politically, religious, hyperbolic lies to make wrongful arrests.
You clearly know nothing about this particular sheriff other than he has videos that support your message and agenda.

And this relates to the facts he quoted how?
The rest isn't relative to the discussion at hand.
He is evidently good enough to keep getting elected.

Apples, apples, apples..............
But, but, but what about that rock on the beach?

"Just 'cause I'm simple, don't mean I'm stewpid!"

[normiss 800]

Sometimes, you have a confusing interpretation of "facts".
Some of what he says is utter crap and incorrect, all in support of his agenda.
It's entirely relative to the discussion as he's doing exactly what you're accusing others of doing, albeit with a differing perspective.

I'm sure you'd be cool with him sending deputies into your area to arrest someone for a 1st Amendment right though.

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He is evidently good enough to keep getting elected.

I guess you are a great supporter of things said by Obama.

Not only did he get re-elected. I am pretty sure he could easily get elected again versus the current two star candidates.

[Bolas 5]

normiss

One less worry for the BLM haters

I'm sure the investigation will be top notch.

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At the time, Seals lived just blocks from where Brown, an unarmed black teenager, was shot and killed by Wilson in 2014. Four months later, after the prosecutor announced Wilson would not face charges in Brown's death, Seals described to MTV what it was like to comfort the man's grieving mother.

FFS. Years later far after the investigation proved what happened, the media still cherry picks the information.

Yes, this is a media problem. Can understand an initial report where there isn't a lot of information but to continue to do so after facts are known is borderline negligent.

Either tell the whole story or tell none of it is it was only marginally related to the article.

Stupidity if left untreated is self-correcting
If ya can't be good, look good, if that fails, make 'em laugh.

[skycop 0]

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-san-bernardino-homicide-20160823-snap-story.html

"Just 'cause I'm simple, don't mean I'm stewpid!"

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skycop

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-san-bernardino-homicide-20160823-snap-story.html

Yup like I said, a big issue between LEO and civilians. You can keep blaming the media or take some responsibility.

[Bolas 5]

SkyDekker

***http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-san-bernardino-homicide-20160823-snap-story.html

Yup like I said, a big issue between LEO and civilians. You can keep blaming the media or take some responsibility.

So this is responsible and accurate journalism?
http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=4814687#4814687

Stupidity if left untreated is self-correcting
If ya can't be good, look good, if that fails, make 'em laugh.

[SkyDekker 1,465]

Whether it is or not really isn't the point.

If there weren't so many questionable incidents with such a long history, the story in the paper wouldn't matter.

Keep blaming the media, god forbid you would look at any actual issues.

[Bolas 5]

SkyDekker

Whether it is or not really isn't the point.

If there weren't so many questionable incidents with such a long history, the story in the paper wouldn't matter.

Keep blaming the media, god forbid you would look at any actual issues.

Would be much easier to look at actual issues if they're wasn't so much noise from the explained ones still.

I'm actually giving them a pass to speculate until the full story is known, but once it is, they should be responsible and report the whole story.

They're not doing it because they hate cops, they're doing it because it's controversial and incendiary which increases reaction on both sides which increases views which increases profits.

Stupidity if left untreated is self-correcting
If ya can't be good, look good, if that fails, make 'em laugh.

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They're not doing it because they hate cops, they're doing it because it's controversial and incendiary which increases reaction on both sides which increases views which increases profits.

Yep,
If it bleeds, it leads......................

"Just 'cause I'm simple, don't mean I'm stewpid!"