normiss 801 #201 August 26, 2016 More positive news Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 444 #202 August 31, 2016 More news http://theweek.com/articles/645004/why-obamacare-failed "ObamaCare tried to remake a sector that constitutes one-eighth of the economy from the ground up. But it made a mess that it just doesn't know how to fix. That will be President Obama's legacy. He should be worried. Very worried." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DanG 1 #203 August 31, 2016 QuoteObamaCare tried to remake a sector that constitutes one-eighth of the economy from the ground up. Not really. Not if you actually look at what the law does. - Dan G Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 444 #204 August 31, 2016 DanGQuoteObamaCare tried to remake a sector that constitutes one-eighth of the economy from the ground up. Not really. Not if you actually look at what the law does. What it does is fail, and fail in spectacular fashion. "Like your doctor, keep your doctor. FAIL "Save $2500 per family. FAIL Increase competition. FAIL Reduce emergency room visits. FAIL Insure twenty million people by 2016. FAIL Bend the cost curve to a sustainable one. FAIL Provide additional choice via co-0ps. FAIL Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 444 #205 September 1, 2016 Yet another one"Scott & White Health Plan, which is part of Baylor Scott & White Health, has dropped its plans affiliated with the Affordable Care Act, which is commonly referred to as Obamacare, the company said. The plans were available on the Healthcare Marketplace. “The market for our individual Marketplace plans carries higher risk than other plans,” according to a question-and- answer post on the Scott & White Health Plan website. “Like many other health insurers, we have determined that we cannot currently service Marketplace plans on an effective and financially sustainable basis.”" http://www.wacotrib.com/news/business/scott-white-health-plan-leaving-obamacare/article_74c4e50a-990f-5c89-a74a-dcd0e0b8ff8e.html?mode=jqm Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 444 #206 September 21, 2016 http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/editorials/ct-obamacare-fail-health-care-insurance-medicine-0911-jm-20160909-story.html It looks like we all were wrong. According to the Chicago Tribune, it has already failed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 2,193 #207 September 21, 2016 brenthutchhttp://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/editorials/ct-obamacare-fail-health-care-insurance-medicine-0911-jm-20160909-story.html It looks like we all were wrong. According to the Chicago Tribune, it has already failed. It's a funny thing. You keep posting these items and gloating about it. And you are correct, the system is unsustainable and it always was. The funny part is going to come when whatever government is in power fixes it. I can hardly wait to hear your howls of protest as the system slowly moves closer to one payer! (One payer being YOU of course)Always remember the brave children who died defending your right to bear arms. Freedom is not free. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 444 #208 September 21, 2016 If that comes to pass, where will Canadians go for timely, quality healthcare? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aphid 0 #209 September 21, 2016 brenthutchIf that comes to pass, where will Canadians go for timely, quality healthcare? Speaking only for myself, I went to Calgary South Medical. Nice modern place. Latest in equipment. World-renowned specialists. It was great to have a leading-edge medical procedure that is being "investigated as a protocol" by your FDA. And did it it on less than 20 days notice. Try not to swallow the propaganda being promulgated by your private insurance lobby. It's not so bad up here. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,991 #210 September 21, 2016 >It looks like we all were wrong. According to the Chicago Tribune, it has already failed. That's about the 17th prediction you've made of its failure. You're like the Harold Camping of DZ.com. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 801 #211 September 21, 2016 On a more positive note regarding Obama's legacy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,991 #212 September 21, 2016 >On a more positive note regarding Obama's legacy What a poor performer. I guess having tiny deficits is OK with Barack Saddam Hussein Obama. That's his plan you know; to steal the deficit from the American people. Trump does the best deficits; no one can do bigger and better deficits than Trump. He will make the deficit great again. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
winsor 236 #213 September 21, 2016 normissOn a more positive note regarding Obama's legacy Let's see. If I am making $50,000 a year, am $250,000 in debt, and spending $1,400 a month more than I am taking in, should I then get a prize for reducing my overrun to only $500 a month more than I make? Looking at the graph, I note that Obama has spent more than GWB did before the subprime bubble popped in every year except the last - and GWBs made drunken sailors look like paragons of fiscal responsibility (when drunken sailors run out of money, they usually quit spending). This goes to show why attorneys should be barred from public office. There is no math requirement for either a JD or the Bar. BSBD, Winsor Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 801 #214 September 21, 2016 Congress has never been good at math, but reducing the spending habits of a drunken sailor IS a good thing. Whether you're good at math or not. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,991 #215 September 21, 2016 >If I am making $50,000 a year, am $250,000 in debt, and spending $1,400 a >month more than I am taking in, should I then get a prize for reducing my overrun >to only $500 a month more than I make? If eight years ago you were spending $2000 more than you make, then you are at least heading in the right direction. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 801 #216 September 21, 2016 As a percentage of the economy, the deficit is now down to just 2.5%, which is below the average of the past half-century, and down from 9.8% when the president took office. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,363 #217 September 21, 2016 Hi Mark, QuoteObama's legacy Personally, I think it is way too early to even begin to discuss Pres. Obama's legacy. We need to wait about 10-15 yrs & then we can begin to consider it. However, as of right now, Obama's numbers on his popularity are higher than any president since WW II at this time in his presidency. Some might dislike him, but it would seem as though America is very satisfied with him. Jerry Baumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 444 #218 September 22, 2016 billvon>It looks like we all were wrong. According to the Chicago Tribune, it has already failed. That's about the 17th prediction you've made of its failure. I switched from predicting its failure, to documenting it, several posts ago. Perhaps I should start a new thread to avoid confusion. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 2,193 #219 September 22, 2016 brenthutch***>It looks like we all were wrong. According to the Chicago Tribune, it has already failed. That's about the 17th prediction you've made of its failure. I switched from predicting its failure, to documenting it, several posts ago. Perhaps I should start a new thread to avoid confusion. Well... the title of your thread is misleading, so if you do start a new thread maybe you could fix that.Always remember the brave children who died defending your right to bear arms. Freedom is not free. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 801 #220 September 22, 2016 I think it would just create more, or spread the same amount to just another thread. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,991 #221 September 22, 2016 >I switched from predicting its failure, to documenting it, several posts ago. Ah. So you are like all the Armageddon predictors who, after several failed predictions, claim "OK it's now the End Times! See, I was right!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 2,193 #222 September 22, 2016 Here is a short edit of Obama speaking on what matters about his Legacy. https://www.facebook.com/ajplusenglish/videos/800533326754843/Always remember the brave children who died defending your right to bear arms. Freedom is not free. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Elisha 1 #223 September 22, 2016 "Budget Deficits" are silly to talk about when he'll have added nearly $10 Trillion to the National Debt. It's at $19.5T at the moment. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 801 #224 September 23, 2016 I'd love to see your source for that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 220 #225 September 23, 2016 billvon>I switched from predicting its failure, to documenting it, several posts ago. Ah. So you are like all the Armageddon predictors who, after several failed predictions, claim "OK it's now the End Times! See, I was right!" YES - This!!! It's is no different than the climate change peeps. Manhattan is still surprisingly not underwater! Gasp - and the polar bears are still alive too!I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
