Bolas 5 #101 July 11, 2016 rehmwa***I tried to stay out of this, but ya know............ http://www.fox4news.com/news/172844863-story I was impressed with this chief when he spoke at a fallen Dallas officers funeral a little while ago. Look into his background, he has a very unique perspective on police and the use of force. I'm not gonna argue here, it's pointless, I will point out the media and social media are filling the vacuum with disinformation just like Ferguson, even using the "injustice" of Michael Brown. It was a false narrative, but........... It is very likely the Alton Brown use of force will be justified. A convicted felon, in possession of a firearm, fighting with the police after a taser deployment, seldom has a good outcome. The truth many times causes outrage, outrage doesn't make you right, regardless of what social media says. The Minnesota shooting will very likely end in criminal charges against the officer. It's much the same as in Cincinnati, an officer apparently panics, and uses deadly force in a criminally negligent manner. However in Cincinnati the guy he was dealing with was involved in criminal activity, gave all the warning signs to the officer. In Minnesota the officer shot a CCDW holder, a very bad decision, one that will land him in jail for a very long time. seriously, now you are looking objectively at each individual situation and trying to assess each based on what facts you know so far - instead of lumping them all together and spitting out bumper sticker rhetoric. Next thing you know, you'll start treating people as individuals instead of members of a stereotype of a demographically defined PC dictionary or even change your mind as new information comes to light..... HOW DARE YOU SIR!! Both of you. Your one warning... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #102 July 11, 2016 BolasBoth of you. Your one warning... my apologies (but he started it) ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skycop 0 #103 July 11, 2016 http://dfw.cbslocal.com/2016/07/11/dallas-police-chief-were-asking-cops-to-do-too-much-in-this-country/ More true words, we have a saying, "I can't solve in 15 minutes, what took you 15 years to create". We need strong leadership, we certainly aren't getting it from Washington DC. Hopefully people will listen to this chief, and a couple of others, who have decided to take the gloves off and speak straight talk. There are some Sheriffs doing this as well. "Just 'cause I'm simple, don't mean I'm stewpid!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,026 #104 July 11, 2016 skycophttp://dfw.cbslocal.com/2016/07/11/dallas-police-chief-were-asking-cops-to-do-too-much-in-this-country/ More true words, we have a saying, "I can't solve in 15 minutes, what took you 15 years to create". We need strong leadership, we certainly aren't getting from Washington DC. Debatable, but certainly not from the Texas legislature which is forcing open carry over the objections of most Texas police chiefs, with the 100% predictable result we see here.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skycop 0 #105 July 11, 2016 SMH........... "Just 'cause I'm simple, don't mean I'm stewpid!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,026 #106 July 11, 2016 skycopSMH........... Symptomatic of the problem... www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/2016/07/11/dallas-chief-to-lawmakers-do-your-job-on-gun-control.html?via=desktop&source=copyurl... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 798 #107 July 11, 2016 I think you're entirely correct. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skycop 0 #108 July 11, 2016 The funny thing is, I disagree with him on gun control, but as far as his leadership skills, they are excellent. Just because I disagree, doesn't mean I throw the baby out with the bathwater. His comments on policing are spot on. "Just 'cause I'm simple, don't mean I'm stewpid!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,026 #109 July 12, 2016 More on the "good guy" myth. www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/about-that-good-guy-with-a-gun/2016/07/11/3ed098fe-47a2-11e6-acbc-4d4870a079da_story.html?wpisrc=nl_headlines&wpmm=1... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 219 #110 July 12, 2016 billvon>Sort of like BLM can't accomplish anything other than further division as their whole >focus and goals are racist. And "police lives matter?" Is that just as bad? http://heavy.com/news/2016/07/see-officer-brent-thompson-police-lives-matter-black-lives-matter-facebook-twitter-dallas-police-shootings-victims-named-identified-identities-names/ BLM - ALM - BLM... Bah!I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 798 #111 July 12, 2016 Don't forget BLMM. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 219 #112 July 12, 2016 normissDon't forget BLMM. Bin Laden Mistresses Matter?I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,439 #113 July 12, 2016 Black lives matter, motherfucker Wendy P. There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 798 #114 July 12, 2016 I heard that one too. I was referring to Blue Lives Matter More. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 219 #115 July 12, 2016 normiss I heard that one too. I was referring to Blue Lives Matter More. Bias Liberals Matter MoreI'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bolas 5 #116 July 12, 2016 skycophttp://dfw.cbslocal.com/2016/07/11/dallas-police-chief-were-asking-cops-to-do-too-much-in-this-country/ More true words, we have a saying, "I can't solve in 15 minutes, what took you 15 years to create". We need strong leadership, we certainly aren't getting it from Washington DC. Hopefully people will listen to this chief, and a couple of others, who have decided to take the gloves off and speak straight talk. There are some Sheriffs doing this as well. This is a common theme in government and corporate America. People are being asked to do more and more with less and less. If they somehow succeed (generally by "throwing things over the wall" or doing the bare minimum instead of a good job) they're "rewarded" with more to do but less resources ad infinitum. We're killing ourselves, literally and figuratively, for what?Stupidity if left untreated is self-correcting If ya can't be good, look good, if that fails, make 'em laugh. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 798 #117 July 12, 2016 Nope, haven't heard of that one. Likely due to the grammatical errors. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 2,190 #118 July 12, 2016 QuoteBias Liberals Matter More Yes, of course. Liberals are biased. Conservatives are not, they are just correct.Always remember the brave children who died defending your right to bear arms. Freedom is not free. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 219 #119 July 12, 2016 gowlerkQuoteBias Liberals Matter More Yes, of course. Liberals are biased. Conservatives are not, they are just correct. He wrote BLMM not BCMM I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
raftman 12 #120 July 12, 2016 So, how many people were shot by protestor carried guns in Dallas? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,026 #121 July 13, 2016 raftmanSo, how many people were shot by protestor carried guns in Dallas? None - the police chief said the Rambo wannabes all ran away. He also said their presence made the police's job much more difficult.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #122 July 13, 2016 kallend***So, how many people were shot by protestor carried guns in Dallas? He also said their presence made the police's job much more difficult. SO???"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,026 #123 July 13, 2016 rushmc******So, how many people were shot by protestor carried guns in Dallas? He also said their presence made the police's job much more difficult. SO??? Great idea, eh? Let's play Rambo and make the police's job more difficult than it needs to be. That's the ticket.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 219 #124 July 13, 2016 kallend*********So, how many people were shot by protestor carried guns in Dallas? He also said their presence made the police's job much more difficult. SO??? Great idea, eh? Let's play Rambo and make the police's job more difficult than it needs to be. That's the ticket. A lot better than squashing rights. The media, in many ways, makes the police's job a lot harder. Should we squash our freedom of speech even more? The 5th amendment make the Courts job a lot harder, should we squash that one even more?I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 798 #125 July 13, 2016 Can you point out the open carry portion of the second? I think I missed it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
