DanG 1 #251 August 12, 2016 Why is the ability to call these people niggers so important to you? - Dan G Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,991 #252 August 12, 2016 >You can be pretty silly sometimes in your replies "The problem is males" - silly "The problem is blacks" - just common sense; after all, they commit most of the crime >I think we've gotten as far as we can here. Looks like you certainly have. If you cannot discuss crime without using racial slurs then you're not going to be able to discuss the topic here. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreeece 2 #253 August 12, 2016 DanGWhy is the ability to call these people niggers so important to you? I think the day that word loses it's power would be a good day for black people. . .Never was there an answer....not without listening, without seeing - Gilmour Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bolas 5 #254 August 12, 2016 Coreeece***Why is the ability to call these people niggers so important to you? I think the day that word loses it's power would be a good day for black people. . . I'm just waiting for the double standard to die. Either let everyone say it or no one say it, preferably the latter.Stupidity if left untreated is self-correcting If ya can't be good, look good, if that fails, make 'em laugh. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bolas 5 #255 August 12, 2016 StreetScoobyQuote Focus on the changeable for solutions, not the DNA. And what would that be? If we're going to group people, let's do it by things they can change: citizenship status, education, criminal record, income, religion, location, etc.Stupidity if left untreated is self-correcting If ya can't be good, look good, if that fails, make 'em laugh. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreeece 2 #256 August 12, 2016 Bolas******Why is the ability to call these people niggers so important to you? I think the day that word loses it's power would be a good day for black people. . . I'm just waiting for the double standard to die. Either let everyone say it or no one say it, preferably the latter. The latter would only demonstrate that a problem still existed - let's just ignore it - it's easier that way.Never was there an answer....not without listening, without seeing - Gilmour Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreeece 2 #257 August 12, 2016 Bolas***Quote Focus on the changeable for solutions, not the DNA. And what would that be? If we're going to group people, let's do it by things they can change: citizenship status, education, criminal record, income, religion, location, etc. You keep saying that - as if religion is so easy to change. If that's the case, then just believe in God. Have a little faith and be saved - you don't even have to tell anyone about it.Never was there an answer....not without listening, without seeing - Gilmour Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,447 #258 August 12, 2016 Quoteeither let everybody say or nobodyyeah, kind of like how skydivers aren't allowed to say "hey asshole!" Wendy P.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #259 August 12, 2016 QuoteI'm just waiting for the double standard to die. Either let everyone say it or no one say it, preferably the latter. Such a stupid statement. It isn't a double standard, it is different consequences for different circumstances. Not sure if you are married or have a girlfriend, but in my house there are very different consequences to: My wife's best friend calling her a bitch. Me calling her a bitch. You calling her a bitch. This isn't a double standard, it is called life. Normally I would have figured most people should be smart enough to figure this out, but with Trump being a presidential nominee it is pretty clear a lot of people are significantly more stupid than I thought. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nolhtairt 0 #260 August 12, 2016 Coreeece ***Why is the ability to call these people niggers so important to you? I think the day that word loses it's power would be a good day for black people. . . Then maybe they can quit calling each other that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,991 #261 August 12, 2016 >Then maybe they can quit calling each other that. Like Wendy mentioned, just as soon as you stop saying "hey asshole!" to skydivers. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #262 August 12, 2016 billvonstop saying "hey asshole!" to skydivers. No deal. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreeece 2 #263 August 12, 2016 nolhtairt ******Why is the ability to call these people niggers so important to you? I think the day that word loses it's power would be a good day for black people. . . Then maybe they can quit calling each other that. If the word lost it's power, then it really wouldn't matter who said it - much like dago, wop, polack and cracker - nobody cares. The social issues surrounding the coinage/use of those terms aren't really relevant anymore - unlike those associated with spic, nigger and rag-head. Those terms have power because people give them power. Some use it in a racist or bigoted manner, while others are just too damn sensitive.Never was there an answer....not without listening, without seeing - Gilmour Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bolas 5 #264 August 12, 2016 Coreeece ****** Quote Focus on the changeable for solutions, not the DNA. And what would that be? If we're going to group people, let's do it by things they can change: citizenship status, education, criminal record, income, religion, location, etc. You keep saying that - as if religion is so easy to change. If that's the case, then just believe in God. Have a little faith and be saved - you don't even have to tell anyone about it. Never said it was easy, just possible to change unlike DNA. Stupidity if left untreated is self-correcting If ya can't be good, look good, if that fails, make 'em laugh. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bolas 5 #265 August 12, 2016 SkyDekkerQuoteI'm just waiting for the double standard to die. Either let everyone say it or no one say it, preferably the latter. Such a stupid statement. It isn't a double standard, it is different consequences for different circumstances. Not sure if you are married or have a girlfriend, but in my house there are very different consequences to: My wife's best friend calling her a bitch. Me calling her a bitch. You calling her a bitch. This isn't a double standard, it is called life. Normally I would have figured most people should be smart enough to figure this out, but with Trump being a presidential nominee it is pretty clear a lot of people are significantly more stupid than I thought. Another double standard. When was the last time you heard a white person, other than Mike Birbiglia, say cracker?Stupidity if left untreated is self-correcting If ya can't be good, look good, if that fails, make 'em laugh. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #266 August 12, 2016 QuoteWhen was the last time you heard a white person, other than Mike Birbiglia, say cracker? Roughly 7.5 hours ago. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 800 #267 August 12, 2016 They're awesome in clam chowder. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreeece 2 #268 August 12, 2016 Bolas ********* Quote Focus on the changeable for solutions, not the DNA. And what would that be? If we're going to group people, let's do it by things they can change: citizenship status, education, criminal record, income, religion, location, etc. You keep saying that - as if religion is so easy to change. If that's the case, then just believe in God. Have a little faith and be saved - you don't even have to tell anyone about it. Never said it was easy, just possible to change unlike DNA. Of all the things you listed, religion (and maybe citizenship status?) are the only ones that are protected classes. You've said in the past that you think religion should lose that protection because it can be easily changed. Bolas: "Religion groups should not be a protected class as it's something people choose and can easily change." http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=4801485;search_string=religion%20protected%20class%20can%20easily%20change;#4801485 Now maybe I've changed your mind in the last two months since we've discussed this, but I doubt it. Never was there an answer....not without listening, without seeing - Gilmour Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 800 #269 August 12, 2016 How is religion a protected class? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreeece 2 #270 August 12, 2016 How is it not?Never was there an answer....not without listening, without seeing - Gilmour Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 800 #271 August 12, 2016 I was curious your take more than legal perspective, realizing it is protected from discrimination is the only protection I am aware of. Part of the civil rights protection, just like sex, including gay citizens. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bolas 5 #272 August 12, 2016 normiss They're awesome in clam chowder. Ok, how about honkey?Stupidity if left untreated is self-correcting If ya can't be good, look good, if that fails, make 'em laugh. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,447 #273 August 12, 2016 Let me ask you -- are you an asshole? Is it a personal attack if I call you one? Wendy P.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bolas 5 #274 August 12, 2016 wmw999Let me ask you -- are you an asshole? Is it a personal attack if I call you one? Wendy P. Not the point. Asshole is not a homophobic, racial, sexist, nor ethnic slur.Stupidity if left untreated is self-correcting If ya can't be good, look good, if that fails, make 'em laugh. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,991 #275 August 12, 2016 >Not the point. Asshole is not a homophobic, racial, sexist, nor ethnic slur. So you are OK with that double standard. Here's another one. On a certain 8 way team I was once doing video for, two female members used to call each other "bitch" all the time - surely a sexist slur. They thought it was funny. But if you call the woman at the DMV a bitch, she'd get mad! Another double standard. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites