rushmc 23 #1 September 5, 2016 I have been reading these stories for weeks. Time to post them. http://www.infowars.com/shut-it-down-reuters-orders-cameraman-to-kill-positive-trump-footage/"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,027 #2 September 5, 2016 Meanwhile, in the real world, two more Republican Secretaries of State decline to endorse Trump. www.cnn.com/2016/09/02/politics/henry-kissinger-george-shultz-donald-trump-hillary-clinton/... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #3 September 5, 2016 rushmcI have been reading these stories for weeks. Time to post them. http://www.infowars.com/shut-it-down-reuters-orders-cameraman-to-kill-positive-trump-footage/ You might want to stop reading "Info Wars" and anything written by Alex Jones. His entire schtick is conspiracy theory wacko nut job driven.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #4 September 5, 2016 kallendMeanwhile, in the real world, two more Republican Secretaries of State decline to endorse Trump. www.cnn.com/2016/09/02/politics/henry-kissinger-george-shultz-donald-trump-hillary-clinton/ Not surprising, it is going to take a real fight to fundamentally transform America back to its original theory. That is freedom, liberty and justice for all.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 801 #5 September 5, 2016 The problem seems to be in part how many don't understand the meaning of 'all'. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tkhayes 348 #6 September 5, 2016 QuoteThat is freedom, liberty and justice for all. that makes a great mission statement, but the Constitution is a far more complex document. And even the Constitution is largely an 'overview' that has been changed many times (as it should be). So then that filters down to the actual laws and implementation plan. But the bottom line is that if you ask 300M people what exactly "freedom, liberty and justice for all" means, you will probably get 300M different answers. The reality is that we have to meet in the middle of a lot of issues and agree to make it work the best we can. and then do it again. and then do it again. And there will never be a final definite solution to anything. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,027 #7 September 5, 2016 RonD1120***Meanwhile, in the real world, two more Republican Secretaries of State decline to endorse Trump. www.cnn.com/2016/09/02/politics/henry-kissinger-george-shultz-donald-trump-hillary-clinton/ Not surprising, it is going to take a real fight to fundamentally transform America back to its original theory. That is freedom, liberty and justice for all. Well, ORIGINALLY there were some who were only worth 3/5 of others and had no freedom or liberty whatsoever, females had no property rights until 1839, and couldn't participate at all in the selection of the leadership until 1920. So that "all" is a bit of an exaggeration. Well, a LOT of an exaggeration.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #8 September 6, 2016 RonD1120That is freedom, liberty and justice for all. Where exactly is that phrase used in any of the founding documents? Or was that just a "theory" of yours?quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #9 September 6, 2016 Who reported it does not change what happened...... Does it!"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #10 September 6, 2016 rushmcWho reported it does not change what happened...... Does it! It absolutely does when you can't actually tell what's being said (supposition only in some cases) nor have any idea who is actually saying it (they aren't on camera). In fact, we don't even know if that was supposedly said was actually said by another person or if in reality it was added in post by the conspiracy web site. What, precisely, do you think that video proves? Anything?quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jclalor 12 #11 September 6, 2016 Psss, no one looks at your links. There's a reason you'll never see Alex Jones giving a TED talk. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #12 September 6, 2016 jclalor Psss, no one looks at your links. There's a reason you'll never see Alex Jones giving a TED talk. no one??? You think too highly of yourself"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #13 September 6, 2016 http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/08/25/bias-alert-media-looks-inward-deems-slanted-trump-coverage-warranted.html http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/08/31/bias-alert-press-ignores-kaepernicks-hillary-for-prison-remark.html http://video.foxnews.com/v/5098502364001/bias-alert-media-consumed-with-trump/?#sp=show-clips http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/08/claims-of-media-bias-against-donald-trump-are-exaggerated/495977/ to name a few....."America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #14 September 6, 2016 kallendMeanwhile, in the real world, two more Republican Secretaries of State decline to endorse Trump. www.cnn.com/2016/09/02/politics/henry-kissinger-george-shultz-donald-trump-hillary-clinton/ Seems he is doing just fine without the cry babies. http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/06/_politics-zone-injection/trump-vs-clinton-presidential-polls-election-2016/"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,363 #15 September 6, 2016 Hi rush, QuoteSeems he is doing just fine without the cry babies. Except for this from your link: But most voters say they still expect to see Clinton prevail in November, and 59% think she will be the one to get to 270 electoral votes vs. 34% who think Trump has the better shot at winning. Jerry Baumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #16 September 7, 2016 http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/09/07/bias-alert-media-dismisses-military-brass-backing-trump.html"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 220 #17 September 7, 2016 rushmchttp://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/09/07/bias-alert-media-dismisses-military-brass-backing-trump.html Lesson: Don't go against the majority media grain - and they won't try to run you over.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,490 #18 September 7, 2016 rushmchttp://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/09/07/bias-alert-media-dismisses-military-brass-backing-trump.html So... he's managed to lose over 80% of the public support that his predecessor had from retired military brass and it's the media's fault for not reporting this like it's a good thing?Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 220 #19 September 7, 2016 jakee***http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/09/07/bias-alert-media-dismisses-military-brass-backing-trump.html So... he's managed to lose over 80% of the public support that his predecessor had from retired military brass and it's the media's fault for not reporting this like it's a good thing? Now that he is speaking more reasonably, and not going for publicity and notoriety. I'll bet you see a lot of people start to realize his strengths. Like I said earlier - take the time to listen to him now - with an open mind.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,991 #20 September 8, 2016 >I'll bet you see a lot of people start to realize his strengths. Indeed. He can lie and get away with it. He has the support of Putin. Heck, he can bribe, embezzle, defraud and assault and get away with it. If he dislikes you, he will take you to court and sue you into bankruptcy. If you like strong, authoritarian men who tell you exactly what to do - and will crush you if you disobey - Trump is your man. Some people are into that. ================================= Donald Trump's Appeal to the Authoritarian Personality Tom Jacobs PSMag Jan 21 2016 Political theories have done a poor job accounting for the rise of Donald Trump, leaving befuddled observers to turn to psychology in search of answers. This week, that field provided the best explanation yet for his appeal among a sizable segment of the electorate: The boorish billionaire’s appeal isn’t due to his inconsistent conservatism, nor his newfound religiosity. Rather, it’s grounded in authoritarianism, an impulse that underlies both ideology and faith. “Trump’s electoral strength — and his staying power — have been buoyed, above all, by Americans with authoritarian inclinations,” political scientist Matthew MacWilliams wrote in Politico. In an online poll of 1,800 Americans, conducted in late December, he found an authoritarian mindset — that is, belief in absolute obedience to authority — was the sole “statistically significant variable” that predicted support for Trump. The authoritarian personality was first described by sociologist Theodor Adorno in 1950, who linked the mindset with simplistic thinking, intolerance of ambiguity, and racial prejudice. As Kathleen Parker colorfully described it in the Washington Post: “Big Daddy’s the boss. What he says, goes. Case closed.” In their 2009 book, Marc Hetherington and Jonathan Weiler described authoritarianism’s impact on politics, noting — in the words of 538’s Tom Schaller — that “authoritarianism is really about order — achieving it, maintaining it, and affirming it.” This has obvious appeal in a changing, often frightening world. Indeed, research shows there are emotional benefits to holding such beliefs. A 2013 Canadian study found a link between authoritarian values and a subjective sense of well-being. As we reported: Much previous research has tied conservatism to higher levels of perceived threat. It’s hard to reconcile how people can both feel threatened and have a strong sense of well-being. On the other hand, a strong sense of social hierarchy (the notion that everyone has their place) can arguably provide a coherent structure that makes the world seem less chaotic — and theoretically more controllable. That could, in turn, promote a sense of well-being. ======================== Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,991 #21 September 8, 2016 >Lesson: Don't go against the majority media grain - and they won't try to run you over. So you think Clinton shouldn't go against the majority media grain? They tried their best to run her over tonight: ============================ Critics blast Lauer's 'Commander-in-Chief Forum' performance by Dylan Byers September 7, 2016 Don't send Matt Lauer to do a political journalist's job. Lauer's handling of the NBC News "Commander-In-Chief Forum" with Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump on Wednesday night was widely panned by journalists and pundits. The "Today" show co-host was criticized for spending too much time on Clinton's emails, lobbing softball questions to Trump, and neglecting to fact-check the Republican nominee when he falsely claimed to have opposed the Iraq War in 2002. . . . Liberals and conservatives were split about Lauer's decision to open his questioning of Clinton with the controversy over her private email server. But when the issue persisted ten minutes into the 30-minute segment, and he was later forced to tell Clinton to be "brief" on the subject of ISIS, he was slammed for dedicating so much time to the topic. But the onslaught of criticism didn't really begin until Lauer's segment with Trump. Whereas Lauer had been aggressive in his questioning of Clinton, he seemed to repeatedly ask Trump open-ended questions that he easily ignored or evaded. . . . Early in the segment, Lauer failed to fact-check Trump when he said that he opposed the invasion of Iraq as early as 2002, a claim that has been repeatedly debunked as false. . . . Perhaps most notable were the questions Lauer did not ask of Trump. At an event geared toward national security and military veterans, the NBC co-host failed to ask a single question about Trump's controversial remarks about Gold Star parents Khizr and Ghazala Khan, Sen. John McCain's prisoner-of-war status or his deferments from the Vietnam War, among other issues. Meanwhile, Lauer was very aggressive in his questioning of Clinton's emails and her decision to support the invasion of Iraq. . . But the greatest criticism was that Lauer asked Trump too many softballs. "The way to show Trump isn't prepared is to ask him specific, detailed questions, not keep saying 'Are you prepared?' over and over," wrote Chait. ======================== Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 220 #22 September 8, 2016 billvon>Lesson: Don't go against the majority media grain - and they won't try to run you over. So you think Clinton shouldn't go against the majority media grain? They tried their best to run her over tonight: ============================ Critics blast Lauer's 'Commander-in-Chief Forum' performance by Dylan Byers September 7, 2016 Don't send Matt Lauer to do a political journalist's job. Lauer's handling of the NBC News "Commander-In-Chief Forum" with Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump on Wednesday night was widely panned by journalists and pundits. The "Today" show co-host was criticized for spending too much time on Clinton's emails, lobbing softball questions to Trump, and neglecting to fact-check the Republican nominee when he falsely claimed to have opposed the Iraq War in 2002. . . . Liberals and conservatives were split about Lauer's decision to open his questioning of Clinton with the controversy over her private email server. But when the issue persisted ten minutes into the 30-minute segment, and he was later forced to tell Clinton to be "brief" on the subject of ISIS, he was slammed for dedicating so much time to the topic. But the onslaught of criticism didn't really begin until Lauer's segment with Trump. Whereas Lauer had been aggressive in his questioning of Clinton, he seemed to repeatedly ask Trump open-ended questions that he easily ignored or evaded. . . . Early in the segment, Lauer failed to fact-check Trump when he said that he opposed the invasion of Iraq as early as 2002, a claim that has been repeatedly debunked as false. . . . Perhaps most notable were the questions Lauer did not ask of Trump. At an event geared toward national security and military veterans, the NBC co-host failed to ask a single question about Trump's controversial remarks about Gold Star parents Khizr and Ghazala Khan, Sen. John McCain's prisoner-of-war status or his deferments from the Vietnam War, among other issues. Meanwhile, Lauer was very aggressive in his questioning of Clinton's emails and her decision to support the invasion of Iraq. . . But the greatest criticism was that Lauer asked Trump too many softballs. "The way to show Trump isn't prepared is to ask him specific, detailed questions, not keep saying 'Are you prepared?' over and over," wrote Chait. ======================== Pretty bad when they start o eat their own, eh?I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,991 #23 September 8, 2016 >Pretty bad when they start o eat their own, eh? Hasn't happened yet. We'll see if it does. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #24 September 8, 2016 QuotePretty bad when they start o eat their own, eh? So then the Main Stream Media isn't on Hillary's side? Or is this again one of those situations where facts are trumped by truthiness and feels? Or do we go by body language, like Trump did with his Security Briefings? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jclalor 12 #25 September 9, 2016 rushmcWho reported it does not change what happened...... Does it! When AJ reports on climate change, it really doesn't bother me much, most of his shit is pretty harmless and all thinking people know this. However, when he claims that the deaths of a classroom of 6 year olds never happened, it pisses me off to no end. When I think about the fucking soulless bastards that keep him in business, I can only think there has to be a very very special place in hell that awaits them. http://www.vice.com/read/sandy-hook-truthers-what-kind-of-person-calls-a-mass-shooting-a-hoax Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites