jakee 1,500 #51 September 20, 2016 QuoteAs to your statement....given that most of the murders being committed by those 13% (blacks) are against other blacks, it seems unlikely that the wealth owned by that 10% is a factor. I think you missed his point. He's not saying that the poor black 13% is killing the rich 10% because they are rich - he's saying that the concentration of wealth in the hands of the 10% is a factor in the scale of the poverty of the 13%. And the 13% are doing so much killing (in some part) because they are poor.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
winsor 236 #52 September 20, 2016 DanG Quote I am not part of the 52% that was murdered by 13% of the population. I see why you're so scared now. You think that the darn blacks have already managed to kill off over half of the decent white folk in this country.BTW, as a white man if you are murdered it is likely that your murderer will be another white man. Black people kill other black people, white people kill other white people. In general. Statistically you should more afraid of other whites than blacks. But where's the fun in that? Wrong. If you are a negro who gets murdered, it is close to guaranteed that a negro was the murderer. If you are caucasian and get murdered, it's better than even odds that a negro was the murderer. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StreetScooby 5 #53 September 20, 2016 Quote Study here: http://www.bjs.gov/...bdetail&iid=5137 Good link. Thanks for posting that.We are all engines of karma Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StreetScooby 5 #54 September 20, 2016 Quote As to your statement....given that most of the murders being committed by those 13% (blacks) are against other blacks, it seems unlikely that the wealth owned by that 10% is a factor. In reality, it's mostly felons killing felons, presumably for control over illicit markets (ie, drugs). You are demonstrating a clear propensity of injecting facts into this discussion. That is not going to sit well with the liberals on this thread. Stop it. You are just going to drive the liberals nuts, and the rest of us to despair. Nothing good is going to come of your efforts.We are all engines of karma Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StreetScooby 5 #55 September 20, 2016 Quote he's saying that the concentration of wealth in the hands of the 10% is a factor in the scale of the poverty of the 13%. And the 13% are doing so much killing (in some part) because they are poor. The ~2% of black males that are doing the killing has nothing to do with that 10% of rich people. Your "philosophy" is bankrupt, and you can't even see that.We are all engines of karma Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 2,216 #56 September 21, 2016 QuoteIf you are caucasian and get murdered, it's better than even odds that a negro was the murderer. I'm having a very hard time believing this. I've seen some sources cited in this thread, but none that support this. Where are you getting this from?Always remember the brave children who died defending your right to bear arms. Freedom is not free. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,500 #57 September 21, 2016 StreetScoobyQuote he's saying that the concentration of wealth in the hands of the 10% is a factor in the scale of the poverty of the 13%. And the 13% are doing so much killing (in some part) because they are poor. The ~2% of black males that are doing the killing has nothing to do with that 10% of rich people. Your "philosophy" is bankrupt, and you can't even see that. You can't even see that I wasn't talking about my philosophy. Duh.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
winsor 236 #58 September 21, 2016 gowlerkQuoteIf you are caucasian and get murdered, it's better than even odds that a negro was the murderer. I'm having a very hard time believing this. I've seen some sources cited in this thread, but none that support this. Where are you getting this from? The internet, of course, so it has to be true. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 2,216 #59 September 21, 2016 winsor***QuoteIf you are caucasian and get murdered, it's better than even odds that a negro was the murderer. I'm having a very hard time believing this. I've seen some sources cited in this thread, but none that support this. Where are you getting this from? The internet, of course, so it has to be true. Thanks, for a minute there I thought it might just be made up.Always remember the brave children who died defending your right to bear arms. Freedom is not free. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DanG 1 #60 September 21, 2016 QuoteIf you are caucasian and get murdered, it's better than even odds that a negro was the murderer Got a source for that? Statistics I've seen are the opposite. - Dan G Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skycop 0 #61 September 21, 2016 I've quoted that study in other threads. To many groups, certain media outlets, and some in here, facts really don't matter. "Just 'cause I'm simple, don't mean I'm stewpid!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #62 September 21, 2016 jakeeQuoteAs to your statement....given that most of the murders being committed by those 13% (blacks) are against other blacks, it seems unlikely that the wealth owned by that 10% is a factor. I think you missed his point. He's not saying that the poor black 13% is killing the rich 10% because they are rich - he's saying that the concentration of wealth in the hands of the 10% is a factor in the scale of the poverty of the 13%. And the 13% are doing so much killing (in some part) because they are poor. I'd say both he and you are giving social science a bad name...and it's not like it had a great reputation to start with. Are blacks in America doing worse now than they were say 50 years ago, when voting rights were just starting to be enforced, when incomes were lower, where the young were being sent to Vietnam, and where discrimination was still out in the open. Where the Loving decision hadn't come down yet. In between now and then, the murder rate peaked around 1980 and 1992, at a rate roughly double what it is currently, and far greater than the 60s. Those years do not correlate to peaks in income inequality, or trail behind peaks. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,500 #63 September 21, 2016 Then I'd say neither of us said there was a direct correlation or that wealth inequality was the dominant factor. I'd also say that expecting social behavour to follow a predictable formula, let alone a formula that has one variable, would be kinda dumb. And by 'kinda', I mean 'really, really'.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nigel99 490 #64 September 21, 2016 RonD1120I know that the 52% murder rate is mostly Negro killing Negro. But, I also know that Negroes will rob and beat up whites because we are likely to have more money. I try to stay out of their territory and I carry. Good thing Jesus was white or you would be screwed! I mean those stinking negros and Arabs are bad news...Experienced jumper - someone who has made mistakes more often than I have and lived. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #65 September 21, 2016 skycopI've quoted that study in other threads. To many groups, certain media outlets, and some in here, facts really don't matter. What about stats on all those cops fabricating stories to help out their brothers? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,027 #66 September 21, 2016 winsor If you are caucasian and get murdered, it's better than even odds that a negro was the murderer. If you're a woman and get murdered, it's better than odds that it was your husband or boyfriend that was the murderer.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DanG 1 #67 September 21, 2016 Here's from the FBI for 2013 (it's the Obama government, so I'm sure the statistics are cooked) Source: https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2013/crime-in-the-u.s.-2013/offenses-known-to-law-enforcement/expanded-homicide/expanded_homicide_data_table_6_murder_race_and_sex_of_vicitm_by_race_and_sex_of_offender_2013.xls winsor (and Ron's) belief that blacks are killing whites is completely false. - Dan G Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nolhtairt 0 #68 September 21, 2016 Here we go again... this time in Charlotte, NC... Police say he was armed, friends and family say not... Details will come out soon enough. http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/livecoverage/breaking-news-now/lc-BBwq09F Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #69 September 21, 2016 nolhtairtHere we go again... this time in Charlotte, NC... Police say he was armed, friends and family say not... Details will come out soon enough. http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/livecoverage/breaking-news-now/lc-BBwq09F Negro cop and black victim. Riots in the streets, this is low life behavior. People are getting fed up. All part of the BHO agenda. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2016/09/21/protests-break-out-in-charlotte-after-police-fatally-shoot-man-they-say-wielded-firearm/Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,006 #70 September 21, 2016 >winsor (and Ron's) belief that blacks are killing whites is completely false. Right - but it _feels_ right to them, and that's what is really important here. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DanG 1 #71 September 21, 2016 QuoteNegro cop and black victim. Could it be that people are sick of cops shooting supposedly unarmed people, regardless of race? QuoteAll part of the BHO agenda. I fell sorry for you. - Dan G Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #72 September 21, 2016 jakeeThen I'd say neither of us said there was a direct correlation or that wealth inequality was the dominant factor. I'd also say that expecting social behavour to follow a predictable formula, let alone a formula that has one variable, would be kinda dumb. And by 'kinda', I mean 'really, really'. so the point of reasoning here (wealth inequity causes violence) is a kinda of a unicorn - data in no way actually supports the thesis, but you want to talk about it anyway. That is, unfortunately, what social science tends to be. Really really dumb. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DanG 1 #73 September 21, 2016 By the way, what's going on in Charlotte is totally unjustifiable. From the initial reports it sounds like a "good shoot" and the guy's daughter spun everyone out of control with a load of BS. Hopefully the cops, local leaders, and city government can get the situation under control quickly. Oh, and to answer the inevitable: some black people are assholes, so are some white people. There are also Middle Eastern, Asian, and Hispanic assholes. Just because a bunch of asshole black people are having a riot, all black people are not rioting assholes. - Dan G Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfriverjoe 1,523 #74 September 21, 2016 RonD1120 Negro cop and black victim. Riots in the streets, this is low life behavior. People are getting fed up. All part of the BHO agenda. [ You keep harping on Obama's "Agenda", that he wants to destroy the US and our way of life. Well, he'd better get his ass in gear. He's had over 7 years, and has about 4 months left. Dow Jones is above 18k, gas is around $2/gallon (except in the Southeast due to the pipeline problems), unemployment is below 5%, GDP is up and has been growing for a record amount of time. He's done a pretty poor job of "destruction." And for the record, I didn't vote for him either time. I disagree with a variety of his policies and positions. But I can't objectively say he's been a "bad" president."There are NO situations which do not call for a French Maid outfit." Lucky McSwervy "~ya don't GET old by being weak & stupid!" - Airtwardo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #75 September 21, 2016 DanG Oh, and to answer the inevitable: some black people are assholes, so are some white people. There are also Middle Eastern, Asian, and Hispanic assholes. Just because a bunch of asshole black people are having a riot, all black people are not rioting assholes. And yet, in this forum I state a strong dislike gang bangers and thugs and I am labeled a racist. I wonder why that is?Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites