airdvr 210 #1 October 28, 2016 http://wwf.panda.org/about_our_earth/all_publications/lpr_2016/ QuoteWe could witness a two-thirds decline in the half-century from 1970 to 2020 – unless we act now to reform our food and energy systems and meet global commitments on addressing climate change, protecting biodiversity and supporting sustainable development. I'll admit that I didn't read the entire report. Wild claims like this are the reason some of us don't believe the AGW claims.Please don't dent the planet. Destinations by Roxanne Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tkhayes 348 #2 October 28, 2016 the claim is that 58% decline in species from 1970 to 2012. a 2/3 decline by 2020, which is only another 8%. that is quite believable given the way we are fucking things up - nothing wild about it. NASA is tracking the decline of coral reefs, pretty much in line with the predictions here. 1913 estimated 10 million elephants. 1989 there were 600,000. just a couple of examples, but with the industrialization and globalization of the world comes the destruction of everything in the name of preserving economic and population growth for humans. The information is out there, but for the most part your elected representatives are convincing you that the president does not have a birth certificate. And what you really want is a cheaper iphone. No worries, mother nature will take care of it all eventually. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airdvr 210 #3 October 28, 2016 Not my remarks...but on the subject; What's interesting is that the WWF report points out that low-income regions of the world were the hardest hit. Affluent parts of the world actually saw a 10% increase in biodiversity. So one could argue that helping those low income countries develop more would go a long way to helping the planet. I think we already do a pretty fair job of helping third world countries.Please don't dent the planet. Destinations by Roxanne Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,991 #4 October 28, 2016 >I think we already do a pretty fair job of helping third world countries. ============ More than 300,000 children going hungry in Yemen: UN At least 14 million Yemenis are going hungry, with at least 370,000 children suffering from malnutrition, UN says. 3 August 2016 More than 370,000 children are at risk of starvation in Yemen, the United Nations has said, 15 months into a devastating war. According to new UN figures, more than 14 million people, about half of the population, are going hungry and are in urgent need of food and medical aid. Some 500,000 children under the age of five are suffering from malnutrition, with two thirds of them so sick they could die if they don't receive immediate assistance, the UN said. "At least 370,000 children are suffering from severe acute malnutrition," Mohammed al-Asaadi, a spokesman for the UN children's agency in Yemen told Al Jazeera on Wednesday. "We're talking about a 50 percent increase compared to the number we had earlier this year." Severe acute malnutrition is a major cause of death for children under the age of five, and is apparent when a child has a very low weight for their height and becomes visibly frail and skeletal. ========= Millions starving in ‘forgotten war’ as Saudi bombs tear Yemen apart The Australian 12:37PM October 27, 2016 Millions of people in Yemen are starving, including children who will be crippled for life, the UN has warned as new photographs from areas worst hit by the war show teenagers dying of hunger. Yemen now has one of the highest malnutrition rates in the world, the UN World Food Programme (WFP) said yesterday. More than 14 million people are going hungry, half of them starving. At least ten of the country’s 21 governorates are close to a famine. The lack of food in the gulf’s poorest state is largely the result of a bombing campaign and blockade by a Saudi Arabian-led coalition. Since March last year the gulf alliance has been trying to flush out the Iranian-backed Houthi rebels who took control of the country after ousting President Hadi last spring. “Hunger is increasing every day and people have exhausted all their survival strategies. Millions of people cannot survive without external assistance,” Muhannad Hadi, head of WFP in the Middle East, said. “An entire generation could be crippled by hunger,” Torben Due, the WFP director in Yemen, said. The 18-month war has killed 10,000 people, a third of them civilians, and left 21 million people reliant on food and medical aid. The health ministry announced that it had run out of funds last month. ===== Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airdvr 210 #5 October 28, 2016 I'm certain you think we should be doing more. The only reason anyone is starving to death in any country is the government. Are you suggesting we try more regime change politics? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_foreign_aid#2000s QuoteIn fiscal year 2014, the U.S. government allocated the following amounts for aid: Total economic and military assistance: $43.10 billion Total military assistance: $10.57 billion Total economic assistance: $32.53 billion of which USAID Implemented: $17.82 billion[4]Please don't dent the planet. Destinations by Roxanne Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,991 #6 October 28, 2016 QuoteI'm certain you think we should be doing more. The only reason anyone is starving to death in any country is the government. Are you suggesting we try more regime change politics? Less, actually. If we stopped supporting Saudi Arabia militarily, they might not have the resources to drop quite as many bombs on Yemen. But that's beside the point. Only the prosperous can afford to be conservationists. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airdvr 210 #7 October 28, 2016 billvonQuoteI'm certain you think we should be doing more. The only reason anyone is starving to death in any country is the government. Are you suggesting we try more regime change politics? Less, actually. If we stopped supporting Saudi Arabia militarily, they might not have the resources to drop quite as many bombs on Yemen. But that's beside the point. Only the prosperous can afford to be conservationists. I think we need the Saudis more than they need us. My point is throwing money at the problem won't change it, and in many cases makes it worse. We tried to solve a humanitarian crisis in Somalia once. Clearly these types of operations shouldn't be run by Democrats.Please don't dent the planet. Destinations by Roxanne Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 2,193 #8 October 28, 2016 QuoteClearly these types of operations shouldn't be run by Democrats. They are generally run by bureaucrats and officers, not politicians.Always remember the brave children who died defending your right to bear arms. Freedom is not free. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airdvr 210 #9 October 28, 2016 gowlerkQuoteClearly these types of operations shouldn't be run by Democrats. They are generally run by bureaucrats and officers, not politicians. You should review who was ultimately calling the shots in Somalia in 1992 and Iran in 1980.Please don't dent the planet. Destinations by Roxanne Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,991 #10 October 28, 2016 >We tried to solve a humanitarian crisis in Somalia once. Yep. If we had just let them die, then there would be so many fewer problems. > Clearly these types of operations shouldn't be run by Democrats. Right. We need more Iraq wars and fewer humanitarian efforts. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AlanS 1 #11 October 29, 2016 WWF. I'm getting this shirt. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stumpy 284 #12 October 29, 2016 AlanS WWF. I'm getting this shirt. That's awesome Never try to eat more than you can lift Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
