ryoder 1,590 #26 November 14, 2016 Something to keep in mind when Trump is choosing people: https://www.buzzfeed.com/christophermassie/trump-in-2007-hire-great-people-but-make-sure-theyre-not-sma The zinger is at the end of the video."There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wayneflorida 0 #27 November 14, 2016 Trump won because in 2009 Clinton choose Clintonemail.com vs State.gov. Her fault. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,026 #28 November 14, 2016 brenthutch*** Trump won because... more Americans voted for him than for Hillary Clinton. Except... Obviously you don't understand how our constitutional republic works. If we were to elect our president via plebiscite you might have a case, but we don't so you don't. Thanks for playing, have a nice day. Obviously you have no idea what I understand.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #29 November 14, 2016 kallend Trump won because... more Americans voted for him than for Hillary Clinton. Except... Except...... http://www.infowars.com/report-three-million-votes-in-presidential-election-cast-by-illegal-aliens/"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 2,190 #30 November 14, 2016 rushmc*** Trump won because... more Americans voted for him than for Hillary Clinton. Except... Except...... http://www.infowars.com/report-three-million-votes-in-presidential-election-cast-by-illegal-aliens/ Now you have reached down to the bottom. What an evil page of evil lies. Comes complete with an ad for "super male vitality" in an eyedropper bottle.Always remember the brave children who died defending your right to bear arms. Freedom is not free. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #31 November 14, 2016 gowlerk ****** Trump won because... more Americans voted for him than for Hillary Clinton. Except... Except...... http://www.infowars.com/report-three-million-votes-in-presidential-election-cast-by-illegal-aliens/ Now you have reached down to the bottom. What an evil page of evil lies. Comes complete with an ad for "super male vitality" in an eyedropper bottle. It is now be predicted that Trump may win the popular vote once all the votes are tabulated. Never mind the non-citizen claim. BTW Did you know that 600,000 people used the CA on line registration the last two days before the vote? And the electoral college argument is a joke. Hillary lost under the rules they both followed. Had the winner needed the most votes, do you think Trump would have stayed out of cities like LA and New York? Not a chance. That simple rule change would have totally altered the way the candidates ran their campaigns. Do you think Hillary would have stayed out of WI had the popular vote been the goal? AND We now know that a big part of these so called protests are being bought and paid for. So much for grass roots spontaneous free speech ! Did you know that while Obama was President the Dems lost 13 Senate seats and 14 state governorships? The facts keep stacking up don't they!"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #32 November 14, 2016 A good read. And from Politico no less. Going to slam that left wing site too? http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2015/10/illegal-immigrants-could-elect-hillary-clinton-213216 One interesting paragraph in the article. QuoteThis math gives strongly Democratic states an unfair edge in the Electoral College. Using citizen-only population statistics, American University scholar Leonard Steinhorn projects California would lose five House seats and therefore five electoral votes. New York and Washington would lose one seat, and thus one electoral vote apiece. These three states, which have voted overwhelming for Democrats over the latest six presidential elections, would lose seven electoral votes altogether. The GOP’s path to victory, by contrast, depends on states that would lose a mere three electoral votes in total. Republican stronghold Texas would lose two House seats and therefore two electoral votes. Florida, which Republicans must win to reclaim the presidency, loses one seat and thus one electoral vote. "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,991 #33 November 14, 2016 >Trump won because... . . . .he went low while Clinton went high. People want low. They want scandal, and excitement, and entertainment, not boring policy speeches or depressing explanations about the problems facing the world today. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #34 November 14, 2016 billvon >Trump won because... . . . .he went low while Clinton went high. People want low. They want scandal, and excitement, and entertainment, not boring policy speeches or depressing explanations about the problems facing the world today. Funniest fucking post of the month!!!!"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 2,190 #35 November 14, 2016 You're not getting it. I don't dispute the Trump win. He won, and the popular vote is irrelevant. What I object to is the lying lie that 3 million non citizens cast ballots for Clinton. The story is a big stinking pile of crap. I agree that the rules can work to the advantage of either party. Trump won. Period. So why do you need to spread lies about false voting?Always remember the brave children who died defending your right to bear arms. Freedom is not free. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #36 November 14, 2016 gowlerkYou're not getting it. I don't dispute the Trump win. He won, and the popular vote is irrelevant. What I object to is the lying lie that 3 million non citizens cast ballots for Clinton. The story is a big stinking pile of crap. I agree that the rules can work to the advantage of either party. Trump won. Period. So why do you need to spread lies about false voting? And you have the inside knowelge to denie it how? BTW I am not claiming it is true. But it does need to be looking into. Did know........ Lets say Obama lived in CA and so do I. I can go into a state polling location, say I am BHO and vote. Even if those working their know I am not BHO, they are prevented by law of asking me any questions about who I am and I get to vote. BHO comes in later and they tell him he already voted, so he gets to vote a provisional ballot. Seem ok to you?"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,026 #37 November 14, 2016 rushmc***You're not getting it. I don't dispute the Trump win. He won, and the popular vote is irrelevant. What I object to is the lying lie that 3 million non citizens cast ballots for Clinton. The story is a big stinking pile of crap. I agree that the rules can work to the advantage of either party. Trump won. Period. So why do you need to spread lies about false voting? And you have the inside knowelge to denie it how? BTW I am not claiming it is true. But it does need to be looking into. It would need investigating if it came from a credible source. However, like most of your sources, it is not credible in the slightest.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #38 November 14, 2016 kallend ******You're not getting it. I don't dispute the Trump win. He won, and the popular vote is irrelevant. What I object to is the lying lie that 3 million non citizens cast ballots for Clinton. The story is a big stinking pile of crap. I agree that the rules can work to the advantage of either party. Trump won. Period. So why do you need to spread lies about false voting? And you have the inside knowelge to denie it how? BTW I am not claiming it is true. But it does need to be looking into. It would need investigating if it came from a credible source. However, like most of your sources, it is not credible in the slightest. Where did it come from John?"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #39 November 14, 2016 billvon>Trump won because... . . . .he went low while Clinton went high. People want low. They want scandal, and excitement, and entertainment, not boring policy speeches or depressing explanations about the problems facing the world today. They want: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFvT_qEZJf8"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 2,190 #40 November 14, 2016 QuoteBTW I am not claiming it is true. But it does need to be looking into. I read that Donald Trump is secretly a Satanist. I'm not claiming it's true. But it does need to be looking into.Always remember the brave children who died defending your right to bear arms. Freedom is not free. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 2,190 #41 November 14, 2016 ryoder***>Trump won because... . . . .he went low while Clinton went high. People want low. They want scandal, and excitement, and entertainment, not boring policy speeches or depressing explanations about the problems facing the world today. They want: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFvT_qEZJf8 And this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0hWhCOx4U8Always remember the brave children who died defending your right to bear arms. Freedom is not free. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #42 November 14, 2016 gowlerk Quote BTW I am not claiming it is true. But it does need to be looking into. I read that Donald Trump is secretly a Satanist. I'm not claiming it's true. But it does need to be looking into. I don't know if it's true either, but a lot of people are saying it."There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #43 November 14, 2016 billvon>Trump won because... . . . .he went low while Clinton went high. People want low. They want scandal, and excitement, and entertainment, not boring policy speeches or depressing explanations about the problems facing the world today. You gotta be kidding me. People don't like the low road anymore. So guess who got most of the protest vote against low road tactics.....yes, the insider. I didn't see "high" on either team or down the rest of the ticket for that matter. Only Gary tried to go the high road and he got ridiculed for it. So I agree with your last sentence anyway. this is fun too - if this is what it's like to drink coffee.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLG9g7BcjKs ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,991 #44 November 14, 2016 >You gotta be kidding me. People don't like the low road anymore. They say they don't like the low road - here and on polls and in the media. Then they vote for it. >I didn't see "high" on either team or down the rest of the ticket for that matter. Agreed; no one did. No one watched the boring policy speeches. (Heck, you had to do some searching on Youtube to find them.) They watched Trump's 3am tweets and then watched hopefully for Clinton to blow her lid on TV. When she didn't, they went back to Twitter. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mirage62 0 #45 November 14, 2016 Quote . . . .he went low while Clinton went high Bill you have got to be kidding. Actually I know you are...you have to be. You way to smart to believe that HRC went "high"Kevin Keenan is my hero, a double FUP, he does so much with so little Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,991 #46 November 14, 2016 >You way to smart to believe that HRC went "high" During the campaign I spoke to several people about Clinton's speeches. They were, as a rule, unaware of any she gave unless she was responding to something Trump said, or a republican accusation against her. (Not surprising - those policy speeches were hard to find.) The only time people _did_ see a direct comparison was during the debates, where most watchers agreed that Trump spent far more time on the attack. I suspect you have never seen any of her policy speeches either, because they were pretty boring (and because you think she was just as bad as Trump.) She could have done far more to get that sort of attention. She could have started every speech with a comment about "Donald the rapist," followed by an attack on his wife for her (presumed) illegal immigrant status. Then perhaps thrown in a few pictures of ten year olds with an open question about who he would date next. It would have been going low - and a lot more people would have seen her speeches. (And that is, unfortunately, one thing the Democrats will likely take away from this - that they weren't loud and newsworthy enough.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yoink 321 #47 November 14, 2016 rushmc http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2015/10/illegal-immigrants-could-elect-hillary-clinton-213216 One interesting paragraph in the article. QuoteThis math gives strongly Democratic states an unfair edge in the Electoral College. Using citizen-only population statistics, American University scholar Leonard Steinhorn projects California would lose five House seats and therefore five electoral votes. New York and Washington would lose one seat, and thus one electoral vote apiece. These three states, which have voted overwhelming for Democrats over the latest six presidential elections, would lose seven electoral votes altogether. The GOP’s path to victory, by contrast, depends on states that would lose a mere three electoral votes in total. Republican stronghold Texas would lose two House seats and therefore two electoral votes. Florida, which Republicans must win to reclaim the presidency, loses one seat and thus one electoral vote. I'd be fine with that. People need to try to separate the pain or elation of this particular election with the process of voting in general. I haven't complained ONCE about the outcome of this election - it's the system we use so we need to abide by the results. That's not the same discussion as asking if it's the best system for 20, 50 or 100 years from now. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #48 November 15, 2016 billvon>You gotta be kidding me. People don't like the low road anymore. They say they don't like the low road - here and on polls and in the media. Then they vote for it. >I didn't see "high" on either team or down the rest of the ticket for that matter. Agreed; no one did. No one watched the boring policy speeches. (Heck, you had to do some searching on Youtube to find them.) They watched Trump's 3am tweets and then watched hopefully for Clinton to blow her lid on TV. When she didn't, they went back to Twitter. if they did anything they voted against it. That's why Trump won"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,026 #49 November 15, 2016 ryoder *** Quote BTW I am not claiming it is true. But it does need to be looking into. I read that Donald Trump is secretly a Satanist. I'm not claiming it's true. But it does need to be looking into. I don't know if it's true either, but a lot of people are saying it.Not that it's a bad thing, but it definitely needs looking into.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 444 #50 November 15, 2016 She did say that she was proud to call republicans her enemies. (included in that list was Iran, so it was not just political adversaries) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites