quade 4 #1 November 26, 2016 I think the only way to avoid a conflict of interest here is for Trump to donate the floor. Taxpayers paying for security, fine. That money getting funneled into his pockets, not okay. QuoteDonald Trump to profit from his own Secret Service detail who reportedly need to rent space in Trump Tower The United States Secret Service, vested with protecting every president and their family, are reportedly in talks to rent space in the luxurious Trump Tower. New York's police department are also part of the operation and are looking at renting a combined two floors and station as many as 250 agents and police in the building, sources told the New York Post. The tower is owned by the Trump Organisation, and President-elect Donald Trump is the company's chairman and president until his inauguration on 20 January 2017. Source: http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/donald-trump-profit-his-own-secret-service-detail-who-reportedly-need-rent-space-trump-tower-1593414quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #2 November 26, 2016 I suppose his next stunt will to replace Air Force One with the govt renting his own jet from Trump Corp. "There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #3 November 26, 2016 ryoder I suppose his next stunt will to replace Air Force One with the govt renting his own jet from Trump Corp. I don't think that's possible for security reasons.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #4 November 26, 2016 quade ***I suppose his next stunt will to replace Air Force One with the govt renting his own jet from Trump Corp. I don't think that's possible for security reasons. Well, sure it would require a ton of comm gear and ECM retrofits, but he isn't bright enough to know that, and even if he did, it wouldn't stop him from trying."There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BartsDaddy 7 #5 November 26, 2016 I love how people are getting upset about Trump doing this or not doing that. He is not in place to do anything yet. Except on speculations. Handguns are only used to fight your way to a good rifle Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #6 November 26, 2016 BartsDaddyI love how people are getting upset about Trump doing this or not doing that. He is not in place to do anything yet. Except on speculations. Well, it's not speculation Melania and Barron intend to stay at Trump Tower. That's been announced by the Trump transition team. http://nymag.com/thecut/2016/11/melania-and-barron-trump-will-stay-in-new-york-city.html Nor is it speculation what the security requirements might be if that happens. http://nypost.com/2016/11/24/trump-tower-security-may-take-over-2-floors-and-cost-millions/ THE issue here though is NOT the cost for security for the first Family's non-White House residence, but instead the conflict of interest in paying The Trump Organization for the "privilege."quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 2,190 #7 November 26, 2016 Yup, it's like Trump's whole attitude is that he is doing America a favour by agreeing to lead it. America should not ask him or his family to change their living arrangements just to make providing the needed security easier. He is an important man. Maybe in a few weeks when it gets closer to the takeover date he will find the time to sit down with the CIA and get up to speed.Always remember the brave children who died defending your right to bear arms. Freedom is not free. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,026 #8 November 26, 2016 BartsDaddyI love how people are getting upset about Trump doing this or not doing that. He is not in place to do anything yet. Except on speculations. How is it "speculation" when he announces things himself? He's already backtracked on three very specific items that were clear campaign promises and he hasn't even been inaugurated yet. The USA has just elected a serial LIAR to the presidency.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
coerce 0 #9 November 28, 2016 kallend The USA has just elected a serial LIAR to the presidency. Kallend: "OMG, politicians lieOh the humanity!" If Trump's memory about what he's said is as bad as yours, then we might have a chance! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,026 #10 November 28, 2016 coerce ***The USA has just elected a serial LIAR to the presidency. Kallend: "OMG, politicians lieOh the humanity!" If Trump's memory about what he's said is as bad as yours, then we might have a chance!What part of the word "SERIAL" is it that you don't comprehend? All presidents lie. None so far have been SERIAL, PATHOLOGICAL liars in the way that DJT is. PS did you have a nice holiday?... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #11 November 28, 2016 kallend ******The USA has just elected a serial LIAR to the presidency. Kallend: "OMG, politicians lieOh the humanity!" If Trump's memory about what he's said is as bad as yours, then we might have a chance!What part of the word "SERIAL" is it that you don't comprehend? All presidents lie. None so far have been SERIAL, PATHOLOGICAL liars in the way that DJT is. PS did you have a nice holiday? Ah, yes there is one other candidate , who lost by the way, that is much more a pathological liar than DJT. HRC comes to mind."America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,026 #12 November 28, 2016 rushmc *********The USA has just elected a serial LIAR to the presidency. Kallend: "OMG, politicians lieOh the humanity!" If Trump's memory about what he's said is as bad as yours, then we might have a chance!What part of the word "SERIAL" is it that you don't comprehend? All presidents lie. None so far have been SERIAL, PATHOLOGICAL liars in the way that DJT is. PS did you have a nice holiday? Ah, yes there is one other candidate , who lost by the way, that is much more a pathological liar than DJT. HRC comes to mind. Rushmc, the post-factual poster.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #13 November 28, 2016 kallend ************The USA has just elected a serial LIAR to the presidency. Kallend: "OMG, politicians lieOh the humanity!" If Trump's memory about what he's said is as bad as yours, then we might have a chance!What part of the word "SERIAL" is it that you don't comprehend? All presidents lie. None so far have been SERIAL, PATHOLOGICAL liars in the way that DJT is. PS did you have a nice holiday? Ah, yes there is one other candidate , who lost by the way, that is much more a pathological liar than DJT. HRC comes to mind. Rushmc, the post-factual poster. Her documented lies list dwarfs DJT's."America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #14 November 28, 2016 rushmc Her documented lies list dwarfs DJT's. Can we see that list? You say it's documented. Please link it.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #15 November 28, 2016 quade*** Her documented lies list dwarfs DJT's. Can we see that list? You say it's documented. Please link it. LIE #1: CLINTON PUBLICLY BLAMED A YOUTUBE VIDEO FOR THE BENGHAZI TERRORIST ATTACK, WHILE PRIVATELY ACKNOWLEDGING THAT IT “HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THE FILM” LIE #2: CLINTON HAS PUBLICLY TOUTED THE RUSSIAN “RESET” WHILE PRIVATELY ADMITTING IT WAS A FAILURE LIE #3: CLINTON HAS TRIED TO REWRITE THE HISTORY OF HER POLICY TOWARDS SYRIA LIE #4: CLINTON IS “UNCREDIBLE” WHEN IT COMES TO BASHAR AL-ASSAD LIE #5: CLINTON FALSELY CLAIMED THAT EMAILS FROM SIDNEY BLUMENTHAL WERE “UNSOLICITED,” WHEN IN FACT, CLINTON TREATED HIM AS A SECRET, OFF-THE-BOOKS ADVISER LIE #6: CLINTON TRIED TO DOWNPLAY AND MISLEAD ABOUT HER VOTE TO AUTHORIZE THE WAR IN IRAQ LIE #7: CLINTON ADMITTED SHE VOTED AGAINST THE IRAQ SURGE PURELY FOR POLITICAL REASONS LIE #8: CLINTON’S ATTITUDE TOWARDS OUTSOURCING DEPENDS ON WHO IS LISTENING LIE #9: BEYOND JUST HER CONFLICTING RHETORIC, CLINTON CONTRIBUTED TO THE OUTSOURCING OF AMERICAN JOBS HERSELF LIE #10: CLINTON HAS SHARPLY CRITICIZED SUPREME COURT CAMPAIGN FINANCE RULINGS BUT IS ACTIVELY USING THEM TO RAISE TENS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS LIE #11: CLINTON’S SUPER PAC HYPOCRISY LIE #12: CLINTON’S PAST RHETORIC ON PUBLIC CAMPAIGN FINANCING REFORM NEVER RECONCILED WITH HER RECORD IN THE SENATE LIE #13: CLINTON HAS BEEN CALLED OUT FOR CREATING AN “ABSURD” CLAIM ABOUT HER OPPOSITION TO MIDDLE-CLASS TAXES LIE #14: CLINTON HAS INTRODUCED A NEW PLAN FOR THE ESTATE TAX WHICH CLOSES “LOOPHOLES,” BUT DOESN’T ADDRESS THE ONE HER FAMILY IS EXPLOITING LIE #15: CLINTON BROKE BILL’S PLEDGE ABOUT NOT USING A “BROAD-BASED” TAX HIKE TO PAY FOR “HILLARYCARE” LIE #16: CLINTON WAS FOR FRACKING BEFORE SHE WAS AGAINST IT LIE #17: CLINTON HAS IGNORED HER PAST SUPPORT OF OFFSHORE DRILLING IN THE ARCTIC TO BOLSTER HER ENVIRONMENTAL CREDENTIALS LIE #18: AS A CANDIDATE, CLINTON SAYS OPPOSES NEW DRILLING OFF AMERICA’S SHORES, BUT AS SECRETARY OF STATE HER ACTIONS SUPPORTED NEW DRILLING LIE #19: CLINTON TAKES DIFFERENT POSITIONS ON QUESTIONING JUDICIAL NOMINEES LIE #20: THE FBI EXPOSED CLINTON’S LIES ON THE MATTER OF NUMBER OF DEVICES SHE USED LIE #21: THE FBI EXPOSED CLINTON’S LIES ON TURNING OVER ALL OF HER WORK RELATED EMAIL LIE #22: THE FBI EXPOSED CLINTON’S LIES ON TRANSMITTING CLASSIFIED INFORMATION AT THE TIME OF SENDING OR RECEIVING LIE #23: THE FBI EXPOSED CLINTON’S LIES ON THE MATTER OF WHETHER THERE WAS MARKED CLASSIFIED MATERIAL ON HER SERVER LIE #24: THE FBI EXPOSED CLINTON’S LIES ON THE MATTER OF HER SECRET SERVER BEING VULNERABLE TO HACKERS LIE #25: THE FBI EXPOSED CLINTON’S LIES ON THE MATTER OF SHE AND HER AIDES DELETING AND WIPING DEVICES LIE #26: THE FBI EXPOSED CLINTON’S LIES ON WHETHER OR NOT SHE HAD THE AUTHORITY TO SET UP HER OWN SERVER LIE #27: THE FBI EXPOSED CLINTON’S LIES ON THE ISSUE OF WHETHER SHE EMAILED PEOPLE WITHOUT A PROPER SECURITY CLEARANCE LIE #28: LAST YEAR, CLINTON “DUSTED OFF” A CLAIM THAT SHE TRIED TO JOIN THE MARINES IN 1975, BUT WAS REJECTED LIE #29: NOT EVEN A WEEK INTO HER CAMPAIGN KICKOFF, CLINTON WAS CAUGHT TELLING A FALSEHOOD ABOUT HER FAMILY HISTORY IN IOWA LIE #30: PANDERING TO VOTERS IN NEW HAMPSHIRE, CLINTON CLAIMED THE FIRST TIME SHE EVER CAMPAIGNED FOR ANYONE WAS IN THAT STATE IN 1991 LIE #31: ON THE 2008 CAMPAIGN TRAIL, CLINTON CLAIMED SHE CAME UNDER SNIPER FIRE IN BOSNIA LIE #32: ON THE 2008 CAMPAIGN TRAIL, CLINTON EMBELLISHED HER ROLE DURING NORTHERN IRELAND’S PEACE NEGOTIATIONS LIE #33: ON THE 2008 CAMPAIGN TRAIL, CLINTON TOOK LIBERTIES WHEN DESCRIBING A TRIP TO MACEDONIA SHE MADE AS FIRST LADY LIE #34: ON THE 2008 CAMPAIGN TRAIL, CLINTON OVERSTATED HER TRAVEL SCHEDULE AS FIRST LADY, IMPLYING SHE TRAVELED TO DANGEROUS AREAS LIE #35: CLINTON HAS EVEN EMBELLISHED HER STORY OF THE BIN LADEN RAID LIE #36: AS FIRST LADY, CLINTON CLAIMED SHE WAS NAMED AFTER EDMUND HILLARY, THE FIRST PERSON TO CLIMB MOUNT EVEREST"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #16 November 28, 2016 the Trump link https://assets.donaldjtrump.com/HillaryClintonLies.pdf"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #17 November 28, 2016 I see. Let's take the list "as is" and without further qualification. Do you really believe Trump has, even just during his candidacy and so far in post election, told less than 36 lies?quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #18 November 28, 2016 quadeI see. Let's take the list "as is" and without further qualification. Do you really believe Trump has, even just during his candidacy and so far in post election, told less than 36 lies? list them......."America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #19 November 28, 2016 quadeI see. Let's take the list "as is" and without further qualification. Do you really believe Trump has, even just during his candidacy and so far in post election, told less than 36 lies? Here is a list, but it was published in April, so it is woefully incomplete: http://www.dailywire.com/news/4834/trumps-101-lies-hank-berrien"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 798 #20 November 28, 2016 It's a sock! Dude, really? I know, the hateful emails will now double, I understand that. Psst...I don't read them, I just laugh. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #21 November 28, 2016 more http://www.nytimes.com/1996/01/08/opinion/essay-blizzard-of-lies.html"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #22 November 28, 2016 ryoder***I see. Let's take the list "as is" and without further qualification. Do you really believe Trump has, even just during his candidacy and so far in post election, told less than 36 lies? Here is a list, but it was published in April, so it is woefully incomplete: http://www.dailywire.com/news/4834/trumps-101-lies-hank-berrien Here are about 282 lies: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/i-will-give-you-everything-here-are-282-of-donald-trumps-campaign-promises/2016/11/24/01160678-b0f9-11e6-8616-52b15787add0_story.html Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #23 November 28, 2016 Her real record as Sec of State http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-09-30/handy-chart-countries-destroyed-hillary"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #24 November 28, 2016 rushmc Ah, yes there is one other candidate , who lost by the way, that is much more a pathological liar than DJT. HRC comes to mind. Note the title of the thread: "The president can't have a conflict of interest." Exactly what does this have to do with HRC?If your only defense of one person is to attack a different person, then you have already lost the argument."There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #25 November 28, 2016 ryoderIf your only defense of one person is to attack a different person, then you have already lost the argument. but...but....George Bush but...but.... Bill Clinton but...but.... ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
