JerryBaumchen 1,364 #26 December 6, 2016 Hi Eric, QuoteMR. HAYES: “But what that ultimately means is there will be fewer jobs.” Get used to it, those jobs that both Hillary & Trump promised are not coming back. Anyone want to buy a bridge? Jerry Baumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #27 December 7, 2016 Florida business using H2-B to hire foreign workers; Just wait until Drumpf hears about this.Oh, wait...http://www.mypalmbeachpost.com/news/business/trump-again-hires-foreign-workers-for-mar-a-lago-l/ntKHy/ "There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #28 December 8, 2016 Drumpf's latest hissy fit: http://www.indystar.com/story/news/politics/2016/12/07/donald-trump-tweets-jab-carrier-union-president/95121916/ Background: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/12/06/he-got-up-there-and-lied-his-a-off-carrier-union-leader-on-trumps-big-deal/?utm_term=.76905abcfeb3"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #29 December 8, 2016 ryoderDrumpf's latest hissy fit: http://www.indystar.com/story/news/politics/2016/12/07/donald-trump-tweets-jab-carrier-union-president/95121916/ Background: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/12/06/he-got-up-there-and-lied-his-a-off-carrier-union-leader-on-trumps-big-deal/?utm_term=.76905abcfeb3 And Trump's brown shirt twitter army was quick to threaten his kids, his family and him. The New America. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,995 #30 December 9, 2016 Turns out many of those Carrier employees are going to lose their jobs after all: ===== Carrier to ultimately cut some of jobs Trump saved by Chris Isidore @CNNMoney December 8, 2016: 4:14 PM ET It sounded like great news when Carrier said last week that it would invest millions in the Indiana plant it decided to keep in the U.S. The company's deal with President-elect Donald Trump to keep a furnace plant from moving to Mexico also calls for a $16 million investment in the facility. But that has a big down side for some of the workers in Indianapolis. Most of that money will be invested in automation said to Greg Hayes, CEO of United Technologies, Carrier's corporate parent. And that automation will replace some of the jobs that were just saved. ===== What will Trump do? Surely he will work to save those jobs! Let's see what he says about it: "If United Steelworkers 1999 was any good, they would have kept those jobs in Indiana. Spend more time working-less time talking. Reduce dues." Ah, he'll just blame them. Lousy workers don't even work hard enough to keep their own jobs! It's going to be a fun four years. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,364 #31 December 9, 2016 Hi Bill, QuoteWhat will Trump do? . . . "If United Steelworkers 1999 was any good . . . " I wonder how many many members of 1999 voted for Trump. A vote well invested. NOT!!!!! Jerry Baumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #32 December 9, 2016 Uh, oh!Looks like Drumpf didn't clear Puzder's nomination with Bannon! http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/12/08/trump-expected-to-tap-labor-secretary-who-prefers-foreign-labor-to-american-workers/ "There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfriverjoe 1,523 #33 May 24, 2017 Well, so much for the jobs he "saved." http://www.newsweek.com/carrier-company-where-trump-rescued-800-jobs-now-announces-600-layoffs-ahead-614352"There are NO situations which do not call for a French Maid outfit." Lucky McSwervy "~ya don't GET old by being weak & stupid!" - Airtwardo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,027 #34 May 24, 2017 wolfriverjoeWell, so much for the jobs he "saved." http://www.newsweek.com/carrier-company-where-trump-rescued-800-jobs-now-announces-600-layoffs-ahead-614352 Some he created:... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 801 #35 May 24, 2017 Ford is laying off 10%. Apparently this is all that winning he bragged about. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,995 #36 November 12, 2017 QuoteCarrier Air-conditioning has already announced that plants that they were getting ready to move to Mexico will not be going.... and he is not even in office yet! I wonder what else a President Trump will do for the American people! A blast from the past! How'd he do on that promise? ============================ Carrier lays off first 300 employees on 6-month anniversary of Trump's presidency Tony Cook and James Briggs, IndyStar July 19, 2017 Carrier Corp. plans to eliminate 338 jobs at its Indianapolis furnace factory Thursday — and the timing is likely to raise some eyebrows. The previously announced layoffs coincide, to the day, with the six-month anniversary of Donald Trump's presidency. They are part of a deal Trump struck with the company in December to prevent deeper job cuts at the plant. The terminations are the first wave of about 630 planned before the end of the year as the company shifts work to Mexico. Carrier's parent company, United Technologies Corp., also plans to lay off another 700 workers at a factory in Huntington near Fort Wayne. ============================= Final round of layoffs planned at Carrier plant Trump promised to save Gregg Re By Gregg Re Fox News Nov 10 2017 Carrier Corp., the HVAC manufacturer that had planned to move its operations to Mexico before President Trump staged a much-heralded intervention, is gearing up for a final round of layoffs. Less than four months after it laid off nearly 340 employees at its Indianapolis factory, Carrier said Tuesday that 215 employees will be terminated on Jan. 11. The company originally had planned those layoffs for late December, but delayed the move until January. The number of layoffs is slightly lower than the 275 employees who initially would have been impacted – the company said fewer workers were affected because of voluntary attrition. . . . . “Trump came in there to the factory last December and blew smoke up our a---s,” Brenda Darlene Battle, a longtime Carrier employee, told The New Yorker. “He wasn’t gonna save those jobs.” =================================== I wonder if the newly unemployed are sick of all the winning yet? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil1111 1,149 #37 November 12, 2017 billvonQuoteCarrier Air-conditioning has already announced that plants that they were getting ready to move to Mexico will not be going.... and he is not even in office yet! I wonder what else a President Trump will do for the American people! A blast from the past! How'd he do on that promise? ============================ Carrier lays off first 300 employees on 6-month anniversary of Trump's presidency Tony Cook and James Briggs, IndyStar July 19, 2017 Carrier Corp. plans to eliminate 338 jobs at its Indianapolis furnace factory Thursday — and the timing is likely to raise some eyebrows. The previously announced layoffs coincide, to the day, with the six-month anniversary of Donald Trump's presidency. They are part of a deal Trump struck with the company in December to prevent deeper job cuts at the plant. The terminations are the first wave of about 630 planned before the end of the year as the company shifts work to Mexico. Carrier's parent company, United Technologies Corp., also plans to lay off another 700 workers at a factory in Huntington near Fort Wayne. ============================= Final round of layoffs planned at Carrier plant Trump promised to save Gregg Re By Gregg Re Fox News Nov 10 2017 Carrier Corp., the HVAC manufacturer that had planned to move its operations to Mexico before President Trump staged a much-heralded intervention, is gearing up for a final round of layoffs. Less than four months after it laid off nearly 340 employees at its Indianapolis factory, Carrier said Tuesday that 215 employees will be terminated on Jan. 11. The company originally had planned those layoffs for late December, but delayed the move until January. The number of layoffs is slightly lower than the 275 employees who initially would have been impacted – the company said fewer workers were affected because of voluntary attrition. . . . . “Trump came in there to the factory last December and blew smoke up our a---s,” Brenda Darlene Battle, a longtime Carrier employee, told The New Yorker. “He wasn’t gonna save those jobs.” =================================== I wonder if the newly unemployed are sick of all the winning yet? Trump used to blame China(and Mexico) for America’s trade problems. Now he blames America. “I don't blame China. After all, who can blame a country for taking advantage of another country for the benefit of its citizens?” Trump said, adding that previous US administrations are responsible "for allowing this trade deficit to take place and to grow." https://www.vox.com/world/2017/11/9/16628008/trump-china-trade-fair-asia-trip-xi-jinping trump has been in power for almost a year now. He hasn't named China a currency manipulator. HAS NOT instituted a bill with congress to get America a path to upstream manufacturing. With the exception of one small $200 million bill for apprenticeship training. What about all the wins in coal country? Bankruptcies / November 3, 2017 / John Whitefoot Armstrong Energy, First Coal Company to File for Bankruptcy Under President Trump https://americaclosed.com/armstrong-energy-first-coal-company-file-bankruptcy-president-trump/ "Coal production has since fallen below 2016 levels. If Trump’s presidency has had “any impact at all” on U.S. coal, it may have created a “little positive spin for financial folks” to add companies including Peabody Energy Corp. and Arch Coal Inc. -- both of which emerged from bankruptcy since last fall -- to their portfolios, Preston said.... Building and operating a utility-scale wind farm costs as little as $30 a megawatt-hour over its lifetime -- as little as $14 if you count subsidies. Keeping an existing coal plant running costs $26 to $39 a megawatt-hour, according to Lazard Ltd. And solar is on its way to becoming the cheapest power source on Earth. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-11-08/a-year-after-trump-s-election-coal-s-still-losing-to-renewables Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CygnusX-1 43 #38 November 13, 2017 billvon I wonder if the newly unemployed are sick of all the winning yet? I don't know. Sounds like Carrier is winning with this one... 1) They get free publicity with a presidential visit. 2) They get tax breaks. 3) They'll get relatively little negative press for this move. 4) They can replace those lazy overpriced American workers with good hard-working Mexican workers. 5) The only unemployed "that matter" will get their golden parachutes. So it really isn't that big of a deal. With this amount of winning, it is almost too much to handle. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
