Russiagate

[billvon 2,991]

>Different lawyer, but I am sure this one will need a lawyer soon too.

You are correct; my bad. The lawyer referenced in my post above is Jay Sekulow. His other lawyer - Michael Cohen - hired Stephen Ryan to represent him in issues involving potential collusion with Russia.

It's getting hard to keep all the lawyers representing the Trump Administration straight.

[billvon 2,991]

So Trump's pick to replace Comey is likely going to be Christopher Wray. Well, at least he'll be free from suspicion of secret Russian connections, unlike much of the rest of the Trump administration. Right?
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Trump FBI Pick Chris Wray Worked on Russia Case but Deleted it From His Company Bio
By Greg Price On 6/20/17 at 10:57 AM
Newsweek

President Donald Trump’s FBI director pick, attorney Chris Wray, reportedly represented an American energy executive who was facing a criminal investigation by Russia in 2006. However, as Trump deals with multiple investigations amid speculation about his campaign’s ties to Russia, one wouldn’t know that particular detail of Wray’s career history.

Why? Wray himself deleted the reference this year, well before he was up for one of the country’s top law enforcement jobs, CNN reported Tuesday.

As early as 2009, Wray’s profile for law firm King and Spalding described his clients and included the line: “An energy company president in a criminal investigation by Russian authorities.”
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[rushmc 23]

Why are the Democrats blocking up to 12 people from testifying in the Russia gate case?

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[SkyDekker 1,465]

Yu have anything other than an article from freebeacon on this?

Don't the Republicans have the majority in the senate and the house and subsequently in all the committees?

[SkyDekker 1,465]

Sessions has now lawyered up as well.

[billvon 2,991]

>Why are the Democrats blocking up to 12 people from testifying in the Russia gate case?

Simple - they're not.

[rushmc 23]

billvon

>Why are the Democrats blocking up to 12 people from testifying in the Russia gate case?

Simple - they're not.

Yes, they are saying they need more time to prepare. Now that's a f****** joke. So sorry Bill, reported again today the Democrats are blocking up to 12 people from testifying. Why do you suppose that is? Suppose they know something that make this false story go away finally?

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[billvon 2,991]

>Yes, they are saying they need more time to prepare.

No, they are not doing it AT ALL.

Who are these 12 witnesses that they are blocking? I only saw a single name in the story linked - and no source that said he was being blocked. Who claims he is being blocked, and who are the mysterious other 11?

[rushmc 23]

billvon

>Yes, they are saying they need more time to prepare.

No, they are not doing it AT ALL.

Who are these 12 witnesses that they are blocking? I only saw a single name in the story linked - and no source that said he was being blocked. Who claims he is being blocked, and who are the mysterious other 11?

Sorry Bill you are wrong. But I don't blame you because the news sites that you go to wouldn't report such a thing because it's detrimental to the case and the fake BS that's being posted out there. The link I have has more than one name to it.

[ur]lhttps://www.google.com/amp/freebeacon.com/national-security/democrats-block-witnesses-testifying-house-intel-probe/amp/[/url]

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[wolfriverjoe 1,523]

billvon

>Yes, they are saying they need more time to prepare.

No, they are not doing it AT ALL.

Who are these 12 witnesses that they are blocking? I only saw a single name in the story linked - and no source that said he was being blocked. Who claims he is being blocked, and who are the mysterious other 11?

Oh, piffle.

You're asking for facts. From him.
You should know better.

"There are NO situations which do not call for a French Maid outfit." Lucky McSwervy

"~ya don't GET old by being weak & stupid!" - Airtwardo

[billvon 2,991]

>Sorry Bill you are wrong.

So prove me wrong. Post facts. Post the names of those mysterious other 11 witnesses. I bet you can't do it - because the fake news that leads you by your nose doesn't concern itself with things like facts. They post the things that FEEL right to you, and so you accept them without thinking.

[rushmc 23]

billvon

>Sorry Bill you are wrong.

So prove me wrong. Post facts. Post the names of those mysterious other 11 witnesses. I bet you can't do it - because the fake news that leads you by your nose doesn't concern itself with things like facts. They post the things that FEEL right to you, and so you accept them without thinking.

Says the man who started a thread where he could post stories for 11 months that are sourced from Anonymous sources. The irony of that is off the charts. That said, the link is up above

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[billvon 2,991]

>>So prove me wrong. Post facts. Post the names of those mysterious other 11
>>witnesses. I bet you can't do it.

>Says the man who started a thread . . .

I thought so. You can't do it.

Funny how fast Trump supporters try to change the subject when asked for facts.

[nigel99 476]

billvon

>Sorry Bill you are wrong.

So prove me wrong. Post facts. Post the names of those mysterious other 11 witnesses. I bet you can't do it - because the fake news that leads you by your nose doesn't concern itself with things like facts. They post the things that FEEL right to you, and so you accept them without thinking.

Atlas Shrugged

Experienced jumper - someone who has made mistakes more often than I have and lived.

[SkyDekker 1,465]

rushmc

***>Sorry Bill you are wrong.

So prove me wrong. Post facts. Post the names of those mysterious other 11 witnesses. I bet you can't do it - because the fake news that leads you by your nose doesn't concern itself with things like facts. They post the things that FEEL right to you, and so you accept them without thinking.

Says the man who started a thread where he could post stories for 11 months that are sourced from Anonymous sources. The irony of that is off the charts. That said, the link is up above

The link doesn't list the other 11.

Who are these other 11 who are supposedly getting blocked?

[ryoder 1,590]

Lengthy new report from WaPo:

Obama’s secret struggle to punish Russia for Putin’s election assault
https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2017/world/national-security/obama-putin-election-hacking/

"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones.

[SkyDekker 1,465]

What amazes me is that Trump has shown absolutely no interest in investigating this and/or exploring ways to ensure this cannot happen again and/or punishing Russia.

Nothing. His whole attitude towards this is:

Never happened.

[ryoder 1,590]

SkyDekker

What amazes me is that Trump has shown absolutely no interest in investigating this and/or exploring ways to ensure this cannot happen again and/or punishing Russia.

Nothing. His whole attitude towards this is:

Never happened.

Not a surprise if you've read The Steele Dossier.

"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones.

[SkyDekker 1,465]

This is what I don't understand about his supporters though. People like Ron, who have long told stories about how communists and Russia are their arch enemies.

They now support somebody who willfully and specifically refuses to investigate Russian cyber attacks, Russian ability to influence democracy etc.

Their country, their way of life, their priced democracy was (and continues to be) under direct attack by Russia and their response:

Meh...fake news....or some variant of that.

[normiss 801]

Yet they believe all the fake news about Hillary.
It's absolutely mind boggling.

[ryoder 1,590]

Where is Joseph McCarthy now when we actually need him?

"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones.

[billvon 2,991]

Trump last week:

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Interviewer: "You suggested he didn’t tell the truth in everything he said. He did say, under oath, that you told him… you said you hoped the Flynn investigation .. . . ”

Trump 1: “I didn’t say that . . . .there’d be nothing wrong if I did say it, according to everybody I read today, but I did not say that.”
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So Trump claim Comey lied.

But then, during an interview, he claimed that his brilliant trick of making up a story about tapes kept Comey honest.

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Trump 2:"When [Comey] found out that there may be tapes out there - whether it’s governmental tapes or anything else, and who knows - think his story may have changed. You’ll have to take a look at that because then he has to tell what actually took place at the events. And my story didn’t change - my story was always a straight story, my story always was the truth . . ..He did admit that what I said was right.”
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So who to believe? Trump 1, Trump 2 or Comey? Let's ask the American people . . .

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Poll: More Americans Believe Comey Over Trump

by Mark Murray
CNBC

By a 2-to-1 margin, Americans say they are more likely to believe former FBI Director James Comey than President Donald Trump when it comes to their differing accounts of events that led up to Comey's firing, according to the latest NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll.

Forty-five percent of respondents say they are more likely to believe Comey's version of events from his June 8 testimony to the U.S. Senate, versus 22 percent who are more likely to believe what Trump has said.

An additional 21 percent say they believe neither of them, and 8 percent say they believe both of them.

By party, 76 percent of Democrats side with Comey, while 50 percent of Republicans believe Trump. Independents break for Comey over Trump, 47 percent to 17 percent.
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[ryoder 1,590]

So how did the Russians get so good at hacking?

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-russia-tech-idUSKBN19E0XB

"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones.

[billvon 2,991]

So quick review:

Trump has been claiming for a long time that there was no Russian interference in the election. Now he's switched gears and started saying yes, there was interference - and it's Obama's fault. He was the one colluding.

Why this change in direction? Is he getting wind of something?

Even more interesting is what Trump supporters are saying. What's the new spin? That there was no collusion - and even if there was, there's nothing wrong with Trump's campaign colluding with the Russians. They may have heard something as well.

Brit Hume: "Collusion, while it would be obviously alarming and highly inappropriate for the Trump campaign, of which there is no evidence by the way, of colluding with the Russians. It's not a crime."

Sean Hannity: "What was the collusion? That maybe somebody in the Trump campaign talked to somebody in Russia … Is that a crime?"

Gregg Jarrett: "I've said it before and I'll say it again: collusion is not a crime. ... You can collude all you want with a foreign government in an election."

[rushmc 23]

So
Most anyone who pays attention knows the Russian claim is bullshit.

When will you get it?

CNN knows it is bullshit.

http://www.veritaslive.com/06-26-2017/americanpravdacnn.html

And regardless of where is come from Bill. It is on tape!!!

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln