Russiagate

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RonD1120

***Fascinating. BTW, your claim that you are an Independent is about the funniest thing I've seen today.

Have you voted for anyone who wasn't a Republican in the last few decades?

Yes, Ross Perot.

Ross Perot who has for the last 18 years been a registered Republican.

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billvon

>And, she was more qualified than Obama.

She didn't know what the Fed was. She thought North Korea and South Korea were the same country, just different parts, like Northern Texas and Southern Texas. She thought Paul Revere rode around warning the British that colonists were coming. She thought that New Hampshire was in the Pacific Northwest and that we shared a border with Afghanistan.

There wasn't really any contest on who was more qualified. To be president of the United States, you have to know where the states are, and what countries we are next to. Pretty much a requirement.

Is that like knowing there are 50 states not 57? Is it the same as believing that entrepreneurs do not build their businesses, the government does or, that believing that Islam is a religion of peace? Or what about promising ridiculous benefits to ignorant blacks. For example, that the government would pay their mortgage payments, as was the case in FL. According to Bill Clinton in '08, he was the guy who would have been getting their coffee.

Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

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Had she held the office it would have mostly likely been 2012-2016. Considering the events of that period, yes, I think she would have handled the job well.

Thanks. I disagree with that on the grounds that as a Tea-Party Shill and blind follower she would have done to the country what Bobby Jindal did to Louisiana. She simply is not capable of understanding the cause and effect of legislation.

"I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher

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SkyDekker

******Fascinating. BTW, your claim that you are an Independent is about the funniest thing I've seen today.

Have you voted for anyone who wasn't a Republican in the last few decades?

Yes, Ross Perot.

Ross Perot who has for the last 18 years been a registered Republican.

Not in 1992.

Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

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Correct. 1992 was more than 18 years ago.

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RonD1120

***>And, she was more qualified than Obama.

She didn't know what the Fed was. She thought North Korea and South Korea were the same country, just different parts, like Northern Texas and Southern Texas. She thought Paul Revere rode around warning the British that colonists were coming. She thought that New Hampshire was in the Pacific Northwest and that we shared a border with Afghanistan.

There wasn't really any contest on who was more qualified. To be president of the United States, you have to know where the states are, and what countries we are next to. Pretty much a requirement.

Is that like knowing there are 50 states not 57? Is it the same as believing that entrepreneurs do not build their businesses, the government does or, that believing that Islam is a religion of peace? Or what about promising ridiculous benefits to ignorant blacks. For example, that the government would pay their mortgage payments, as was the case in FL. According to Bill Clinton in '08, he was the guy who would have been getting their coffee.

Or what about promising ridiculous benefits to ignorant blacks.

Well now, it'll be interesting to see how that works out for you.

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JoeWeber

******>And, she was more qualified than Obama.

She didn't know what the Fed was. She thought North Korea and South Korea were the same country, just different parts, like Northern Texas and Southern Texas. She thought Paul Revere rode around warning the British that colonists were coming. She thought that New Hampshire was in the Pacific Northwest and that we shared a border with Afghanistan.

There wasn't really any contest on who was more qualified. To be president of the United States, you have to know where the states are, and what countries we are next to. Pretty much a requirement.

Is that like knowing there are 50 states not 57? Is it the same as believing that entrepreneurs do not build their businesses, the government does or, that believing that Islam is a religion of peace? Or what about promising ridiculous benefits to ignorant blacks. For example, that the government would pay their mortgage payments, as was the case in FL. According to Bill Clinton in '08, he was the guy who would have been getting their coffee.

Or what about promising ridiculous benefits to ignorant blacks.

Well now, it'll be interesting to see how that works out for you.

??? I heard the woman proclaim that promise on the radio at the time. She was a black female and she truly believed it.

Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

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RonD1120

Is that like knowing there are 50 states not 57?

Obama never said there were 57 states, he said there were 57 and another 3. In context, saying 57 instead of 47 is embarrassing, but an obvious slip of the tongue rather than lack of knowledge.

Honestly, don't you think if that's the worst thing you can find Obama saying that it makes your opponent's point for him? Palin was far less knowledgeable on those issues.

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

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??? I heard the woman proclaim that promise on the radio at the time. She was a black female and she truly believed it.

What woman? Who was she?

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

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??? I heard the woman proclaim that promise on the radio at the time. She was a black female and she truly believed it.

It must have been a very fearful time for you. A black Muslim family in the White House. No wonder you love Trump so much.

Always remember the brave children who died defending your right to bear arms. Freedom is not free.

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gowlerk

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??? I heard the woman proclaim that promise on the radio at the time. She was a black female and she truly believed it.

It must have been a very fearful time for you. A black Muslim family in the White House. No wonder you love Trump so much.

That was a factor, not the only one, in our decision to move to a Christian enclave in the north GA mountains. America definitely changed during the Obama administration. As a family, we have made plans for survival should the worst happen. We could not afford to move out of the country as some did but we have purchased land in remote areas where we can make a stand. That is, we have land for farming, hunting and fishing.

Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

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RonD1120

***>And, she was more qualified than Obama.

She didn't know what the Fed was. She thought North Korea and South Korea were the same country, just different parts, like Northern Texas and Southern Texas. She thought Paul Revere rode around warning the British that colonists were coming. She thought that New Hampshire was in the Pacific Northwest and that we shared a border with Afghanistan.

There wasn't really any contest on who was more qualified. To be president of the United States, you have to know where the states are, and what countries we are next to. Pretty much a requirement.

Is that like knowing there are 50 states not 57? Is it the same as believing that entrepreneurs do not build their businesses, the government does or, that believing that Islam is a religion of peace? Or what about promising ridiculous benefits to ignorant blacks. For example, that the government would pay their mortgage payments, as was the case in FL. According to Bill Clinton in '08, he was the guy who would have been getting their coffee.

Covfefe.

Mexico will pay.

Repeal ACA on the first day.

My crowd was bigger than Obama's.



Well, actually there's a whole long thread about Trump's mis-statements.

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

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kallend

******>And, she was more qualified than Obama.

She didn't know what the Fed was. She thought North Korea and South Korea were the same country, just different parts, like Northern Texas and Southern Texas. She thought Paul Revere rode around warning the British that colonists were coming. She thought that New Hampshire was in the Pacific Northwest and that we shared a border with Afghanistan.

There wasn't really any contest on who was more qualified. To be president of the United States, you have to know where the states are, and what countries we are next to. Pretty much a requirement.

Is that like knowing there are 50 states not 57? Is it the same as believing that entrepreneurs do not build their businesses, the government does or, that believing that Islam is a religion of peace? Or what about promising ridiculous benefits to ignorant blacks. For example, that the government would pay their mortgage payments, as was the case in FL. According to Bill Clinton in '08, he was the guy who would have been getting their coffee.

Covfefe.

Mexico will pay.

Repeal ACA on the first day.

My crowd was bigger than Obama's.



Well, actually there's a whole long thread about Trump's mis-statements.

The bottom line and the real point of truth is that all political candidates make stupid statements off the cuff. We only pay attention to the other guy's.

Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

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RonD1120

The bottom line and the real point of truth is that all political candidates make stupid statements off the cuff. We only pay attention to the other guy's.

You maybe.

Everyone else, not so much.

The way Obama's statements were blown out of proportion (or outright fabricated) compared to stuff Trump has actually said and done is ridiculous.

Mocking the disabled.

Admitting that he committed the crime of 4th degree sexual assault.

Defending the violence committed by Nazis.

And you keep supporting him.

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RonD1120

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??? I heard the woman proclaim that promise on the radio at the time. She was a black female and she truly believed it.

It must have been a very fearful time for you. A black Muslim family in the White House. No wonder you love Trump so much.

That was a factor, not the only one, in our decision to move to a Christian enclave in the north GA mountains. America definitely changed during the Obama administration. As a family, we have made plans for survival should the worst happen. We could not afford to move out of the country as some did but we have purchased land in remote areas where we can make a stand. That is, we have land for farming, hunting and fishing.

Ron, I know you are not stupid; your writing alone proves that point. I also believe that you have a big heart when it comes to helping those you believe worthy. Certainly I believe your faith, as I've previously opined, precludes rationality sometimes. None of that would bother me if you didn't claim a right to foist it off on any unfortunate passersby or use it as a final point in a conversation. But the one thing you could do is be a little more honest on one point if no other. That is, please read what you have just now written and try to understand how it comes off as racist. And then own it.

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JoeWeber

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??? I heard the woman proclaim that promise on the radio at the time. She was a black female and she truly believed it.

It must have been a very fearful time for you. A black Muslim family in the White House. No wonder you love Trump so much.

That was a factor, not the only one, in our decision to move to a Christian enclave in the north GA mountains. America definitely changed during the Obama administration. As a family, we have made plans for survival should the worst happen. We could not afford to move out of the country as some did but we have purchased land in remote areas where we can make a stand. That is, we have land for farming, hunting and fishing.

Ron, I know you are not stupid; your writing alone proves that point. I also believe that you have a big heart when it comes to helping those you believe worthy. Certainly I believe your faith, as I've previously opined, precludes rationality sometimes. None of that would bother me if you didn't claim a right to foist it off on any unfortunate passersby or use it as a final point in a conversation. But the one thing you could do is be a little more honest on one point if no other. That is, please read what you have just now written and try to understand how it comes off as racist. And then own it.

I agree and there is one factor that is common between Ron and Marc, aka Rushmc. Support for trump no matter the deception, the lying, the hypocrisy, the racism, the bigotry and that whole ideology rolled into the republican party. Still exists.

Currently "American voters give Trump a negative 37 - 58 percent approval rating", and American women show greater intellect, judgement because " 57 - 41 percent that Trump is not fit to serve as president. There is a wide gender gap, with men divided 49 - 49 percent on whether Trump is fit. Women say 65 - 33 percent he is not fit."
https://poll.qu.edu/national/release-detail?ReleaseID=2522

So 37% still approve of the fraudster in chief. A tax relief blip upwards last week was short lived. Its difficult to understand the parroted views of FOX and the WH. But its important to resist branding this 37% as stupid. About 10% of this number is voting solely on the gun issue.

"4. Gun advocates are more passionate
Last year, Gallup asked Americans whether they would vote only for a candidate who shared their views on gun policy or whether it was one of many important factors they would consider before voting. Among gun owners, 30% said they could vote only for someone who shared their viewpoint. Among those who didn't own guns, it was 20%. Not only that, but since 2000 the percentage of gun owners who said gun issues were key to their vote climbed by 17 points. It rose by just 10 points among those who didn't own guns.
Pew has made similar findings to Gallup. Gun owners are 9 points (21% to 12%) more likely to have contacted public officials about gun policy than those who don't own guns. Americans who favor loosening gun laws have been 7 points (22% to 15%) more likely to contact public officials than those who favor stricter gun laws.
Even if some Republicans were tempted to support stricter gun control, these numbers suggest that they might be pressured into voting against it because gun rights advocates are more likely to make their voices heard. "
https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/15/politics/congress-gun-control-unlikely-to-pass/index.html

Likely 4-7% are very wealthy and as such, enjoying huge advantages that his tax measures create. Which leaves about 20% of Americans who are middle to lower class working people that have yet to see the light.

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Phil1111

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??? I heard the woman proclaim that promise on the radio at the time. She was a black female and she truly believed it.

It must have been a very fearful time for you. A black Muslim family in the White House. No wonder you love Trump so much.

That was a factor, not the only one, in our decision to move to a Christian enclave in the north GA mountains. America definitely changed during the Obama administration. As a family, we have made plans for survival should the worst happen. We could not afford to move out of the country as some did but we have purchased land in remote areas where we can make a stand. That is, we have land for farming, hunting and fishing.

Ron, I know you are not stupid; your writing alone proves that point. I also believe that you have a big heart when it comes to helping those you believe worthy. Certainly I believe your faith, as I've previously opined, precludes rationality sometimes. None of that would bother me if you didn't claim a right to foist it off on any unfortunate passersby or use it as a final point in a conversation. But the one thing you could do is be a little more honest on one point if no other. That is, please read what you have just now written and try to understand how it comes off as racist. And then own it.

I agree and there is one factor that is common between Ron and Marc, aka Rushmc. Support for trump no matter the deception, the lying, the hypocrisy, the racism, the bigotry and that whole ideology rolled into the republican party. Still exists.

Currently "American voters give Trump a negative 37 - 58 percent approval rating", and American women show greater intellect, judgement because " 57 - 41 percent that Trump is not fit to serve as president. There is a wide gender gap, with men divided 49 - 49 percent on whether Trump is fit. Women say 65 - 33 percent he is not fit."
https://poll.qu.edu/national/release-detail?ReleaseID=2522

So 37% still approve of the fraudster in chief. A tax relief blip upwards last week was short lived. Its difficult to understand the parroted views of FOX and the WH. But its important to resist branding this 37% as stupid. About 10% of this number is voting solely on the gun issue.

"4. Gun advocates are more passionate
Last year, Gallup asked Americans whether they would vote only for a candidate who shared their views on gun policy or whether it was one of many important factors they would consider before voting. Among gun owners, 30% said they could vote only for someone who shared their viewpoint. Among those who didn't own guns, it was 20%. Not only that, but since 2000 the percentage of gun owners who said gun issues were key to their vote climbed by 17 points. It rose by just 10 points among those who didn't own guns.
Pew has made similar findings to Gallup. Gun owners are 9 points (21% to 12%) more likely to have contacted public officials about gun policy than those who don't own guns. Americans who favor loosening gun laws have been 7 points (22% to 15%) more likely to contact public officials than those who favor stricter gun laws.
Even if some Republicans were tempted to support stricter gun control, these numbers suggest that they might be pressured into voting against it because gun rights advocates are more likely to make their voices heard. "
https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/15/politics/congress-gun-control-unlikely-to-pass/index.html

Likely 4-7% are very wealthy and as such, enjoying huge advantages that his tax measures create. Which leaves about 20% of Americans who are middle to lower class working people that have yet to see the light.

I also agree save that Ron has, on at least one occasion, demonstrated the capacity to concede a point in a public forum in favor of the opposition.

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>Is that like knowing there are 50 states not 57?

Nope. It wasn't a slip of the tongue - it was not knowing the difference between North and South Korea even when asked about it later.

>Is it the same as believing that entrepreneurs do not build their businesses, the
>government does . . .

Perhaps. But since Obama didn't say that, it doesn't really matter.*

>that believing that Islam is a religion of peace?

It's as much a religion of peace as Christianity is. Most Christians (and most Muslims) are peaceful people. It's the extremists that are the problem.

>Or what about promising ridiculous benefits to ignorant blacks

Hmm. Promising to support our ally North Korea sounds worse.

And here we see the basic difference. You have to lie about what was said by both candidates to be able to support Palin. (Which is one reason so many right wingers dislike the media - because they record everything.)

(* - what he said was "Somebody helped to create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges. If you’ve got a business — you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen. The Internet didn’t get invented on its own. Government research created the Internet so that all the companies could make money off the Internet." That means that the business didn't build the roads and bridges.)

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RonD1120

That was a factor, not the only one, in our decision to move to a Christian enclave in the north GA mountains.

Obama is a true Christian, and promotes Christian ideology. Trump is not, and does not. You know that.

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JoeWeber

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??? I heard the woman proclaim that promise on the radio at the time. She was a black female and she truly believed it.

It must have been a very fearful time for you. A black Muslim family in the White House. No wonder you love Trump so much.

That was a factor, not the only one, in our decision to move to a Christian enclave in the north GA mountains. America definitely changed during the Obama administration. As a family, we have made plans for survival should the worst happen. We could not afford to move out of the country as some did but we have purchased land in remote areas where we can make a stand. That is, we have land for farming, hunting and fishing.

Ron, I know you are not stupid; your writing alone proves that point. I also believe that you have a big heart when it comes to helping those you believe worthy. Certainly I believe your faith, as I've previously opined, precludes rationality sometimes. None of that would bother me if you didn't claim a right to foist it off on any unfortunate passersby or use it as a final point in a conversation. But the one thing you could do is be a little more honest on one point if no other. That is, please read what you have just now written and try to understand how it comes off as racist. And then own it.

I don't see it.

Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

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headoverheels

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That was a factor, not the only one, in our decision to move to a Christian enclave in the north GA mountains.

Obama is a true Christian, and promotes Christian ideology. Trump is not, and does not. You know that.

I disagree but it is of no consequence.

Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

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RonD1120

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That was a factor, not the only one, in our decision to move to a Christian enclave in the north GA mountains.

Obama is a true Christian, and promotes Christian ideology. Trump is not, and does not. You know that.

I disagree but it is of no consequence.

Only a true christian could have three wives and fuck porn stars. One of those stinking muslims is easy to identify, he only has one wife and doesn't fuck porn stars. Loser.

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RonD1120

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That was a factor, not the only one, in our decision to move to a Christian enclave in the north GA mountains.

Obama is a true Christian, and promotes Christian ideology. Trump is not, and does not. You know that.

I disagree but it is of no consequence.

Since it is based on complete disregard of facts, your opinion is of no consequence.

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I know you can't look into the hearts of other men (except Obama, apparently) but in your opinion was/is Jimmy Carter a good and true Christian?

- Dan G

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DanG

I know you can't look into the hearts of other men (except Obama, apparently) but in your opinion was/is Jimmy Carter a good and true Christian?

i believe President Jimmy Carter is a good man and he professees to be a Christian. Only God knows the heart and quality of a good Christian.

The Bible says that to be a Christian you have to believe in faith that 1) Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; 2) Jesus died on the cross as the propitiation of all sin, for all peoples, for all time; 3) Jesus was resurrected from the dead and is available to all who call on Him for salvation. Then you confess with your mouth and believe in your heart that Jesus is Lord you will be saved.

That is it. That is the simple truth.

The Bible also teaches that if a person proclaims they are a Christian we are to accept them as such. We are not to judge their level of faith, their walk or their behavior. We can only examine their fruit of the Holy Spirit and even that is risky. We are only to hold them in prayer.

Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.