Russiagate

[normiss 800]

Israel Changes intel sharing rules Thanks to Trump's loose lips.
Still a treasonous traitor IMO.

[kallend 2,027]

rushmc

No evidence Bill.
Zero, zilch, nada.

You wouldn't admit the evidence if stood on its hind legs and bit you on the nose.

(I doubt the CIA shares its information with Bill either, during an ongoing intelligence operation).

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[billvon 2,991]

>You wouldn't admit the evidence if stood on its hind legs and bit you on the nose.

"Nothing bit me on the nose."
"Why is it such a big deal? Mosquitoes bite people on the nose all the time."
"Clinton bit someone first."

[rushmc 23]

kallend

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No evidence Bill.
Zero, zilch, nada.

You wouldn't admit the evidence if stood on its hind legs and bit you on the nose.

(I doubt the CIA shares its information with Bill either, during an ongoing intelligence operation).


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLcMBnz9GWk

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[rushmc 23]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKrlfqWzE4c

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[DJL 235]

Ruskie, you have Charlie Daniels in your corner too.
http://www.cnsnews.com/commentary/charlie-daniels/charlie-danielss-open-letter-chuck-schumer-youve-opened-pandoras-box

"I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher

[kallend 2,027]

“It should be clear to everyone that Russia brazenly interfered in our 2016 presidential election process and that they undertook these activities despite our strong protest and explicit warnings that they not do so,”; Former CIA Director Brennan in sworn testimony before the House Intelligence Committee.

Everyone except Marc Rush, it seems.

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[rushmc 23]

kallend

“It should be clear to everyone that Russia brazenly interfered in our 2016 presidential election process and that they undertook these activities despite our strong protest and explicit warnings that they not do so,”; Former CIA Director Brennan in sworn testimony before the House Intelligence Committee.

Everyone except Marc Rush, it seems.

No one, not even me is arguing that point.

The link to Trump is another thing however.

And the fact that their meddling did not affect the outcome is something you chose to ignore.

Come on John, keep up.

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[kallend 2,027]

rushmc

***“It should be clear to everyone that Russia brazenly interfered in our 2016 presidential election process and that they undertook these activities despite our strong protest and explicit warnings that they not do so,”; Former CIA Director Brennan in sworn testimony before the House Intelligence Committee.

Everyone except Marc Rush, it seems.

No one, not even me is arguing that point.

The link to Trump is another thing however.

And the fact that their meddling did not affect the outcome is something you chose to ignore.

Come on John, keep up.

So how do you explain hiring Flynn after both the acting AG and the outgoing president strongly advised against it? Stupidity, arrogance, or collusion?

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[DJL 235]

kallend

******“It should be clear to everyone that Russia brazenly interfered in our 2016 presidential election process and that they undertook these activities despite our strong protest and explicit warnings that they not do so,”; Former CIA Director Brennan in sworn testimony before the House Intelligence Committee.

Everyone except Marc Rush, it seems.

No one, not even me is arguing that point.

The link to Trump is another thing however.

And the fact that their meddling did not affect the outcome is something you chose to ignore.

Come on John, keep up.

So how do you explain hiring Flynn after both the acting AG and the outgoing president strongly advised against it? Stupidity, arrogance, or collusion?

That's not collusion. It's a combination of stupidity and arrogance, the same thing that resulted in Hillary's servers and emails getting hacked.

Trump saw the warnings about Flynn the same way he saw comments about Rex Tillerson, that both had contact with Russians as a natural course in their former jobs. He does not/did not know the difference that makes someone "compromised".

"I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher

[billvon 2,991]

>That's not collusion. It's a combination of stupidity and arrogance . . .

Perhaps, and sadly that will be the Trump supporter's strongest argument. "Trump is too stupid to plan something like that!"

In any case, the larger issue is no longer the degree of collusion - it is the attempt to obstruct the investigation.

[Phil1111 1,149]

billvon

>That's not collusion. It's a combination of stupidity and arrogance . . .

Perhaps, and sadly that will be the Trump supporter's strongest argument. "Trump is too stupid to plan something like that!"

In any case, the larger issue is no longer the degree of collusion - it is the attempt to obstruct the investigation.

At some level its not possible to argue stupidity when Presidents, Attorney Generals, National Security Advisors, etc. are involved.

Its like saying a PhD in philosophy would have to know the nationality of Aristotle and who he is.

But obviously this is a different administration with unique talents.

[rushmc 23]

billvon

>That's not collusion. It's a combination of stupidity and arrogance . . .

Perhaps, and sadly that will be the Trump supporter's strongest argument. "Trump is too stupid to plan something like that!"

In any case, the larger issue is no longer the degree of collusion - it is the attempt to obstruct the investigation.

Wrong again

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[kallend 2,027]

rushmc

***>That's not collusion. It's a combination of stupidity and arrogance . . .

Perhaps, and sadly that will be the Trump supporter's strongest argument. "Trump is too stupid to plan something like that!"

In any case, the larger issue is no longer the degree of collusion - it is the attempt to obstruct the investigation.

Wrong again

So what is it? You've been dodging the question for over a week.

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[rushmc 23]

kallend

******>That's not collusion. It's a combination of stupidity and arrogance . . .

Perhaps, and sadly that will be the Trump supporter's strongest argument. "Trump is too stupid to plan something like that!"

In any case, the larger issue is no longer the degree of collusion - it is the attempt to obstruct the investigation.

Wrong again

So what is it? You've been dodging the question for over a week.

First off, what question?
Second
I have asked repeatedly

Do you believe that Russian attempts to meddle had nothing to do with election outcome? As stated by many in the intel community...

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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Do you think that Russian interference should only be investigated or prosecuted if it actually had an effect?

Hypothetically, how would that conversation go?

"OK, we know you colluded with the Russian government to influence the election but since you would have won anyway we'll just let it go." ?

[normiss 800]

I was under the impression he has dodged questions since he first started posting in here.
Not really sure these days as I scroll past ignoring him.
Complete waste of time and logic.

[DanG 1]

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Do you think that Russian interference should only be investigated or prosecuted if it actually had an effect?

Hypothetically, how would that conversation go?

"OK, we know you colluded with the Russian government to influence the election but since you would have won anyway we'll just let it go." ?

Duh. Obviously attempted murder shouldn't be prosecuted either. It's only a crime if you're successful.

- Dan G

[DJL 235]

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Do you believe that Russian attempts to meddle had nothing to do with election outcome? As stated by many in the intel community...

Nobody here is capable of answering that question with anything more than an allegorical response.

I had friends who are Republicans who didn't vote for Trump but didn't vote for Hillary citing the arrogance at which treated the security of her server. I have Democratic friends who didn't vote for her because they felt her integrity is compromised.

Yes, it affected the election results and this was a very tight race but my opinion is that she did more to alienate, polarize, and mobilize her opponent party constituents by treating them like she was not going to represent them.

Edit: The outcome of the election has nothing to do with the need to investigate Russia's actions.

"I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher

[Phil1111 1,149]

DanG

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Do you think that Russian interference should only be investigated or prosecuted if it actually had an effect?

Hypothetically, how would that conversation go?

"OK, we know you colluded with the Russian government to influence the election but since you would have won anyway we'll just let it go." ?

Duh. Obviously attempted murder shouldn't be prosecuted either. It's only a crime if you're found guilty in a court of law.

Fixed it for you.

Worked for OJ.
Works for the American Bar.
Works for politicians.

So must be good, just keep it secret and the public ignorant.

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billvon

In any case, the larger issue is no longer the degree of collusion - it is the attempt to obstruct the investigation.

Trump cheerleaders seem to be blind to the future, too. So we know Russia tried to meddle (and did meddle) with this election... so what about the next one? An investigation into what hapened in this election can help protect the integrity of the electoral process from foreign interference in the next election, and the one after, and the one after that. The President is trying to halt that investigation because it might make him look bad.

But according to the Trumpeteers, that's just a meaningless procedural matter of no importance. Right.

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

[billvon 2,991]

>And even more subpoenas - but this time for his businesses. (Businesses can't
>plead the fifth.)

Looks like that worked. Flynn has now agreed to hand over his emails and documents concerning his relationship with Russia. He is doing it as slowly as possible - perhaps he wants a few more days of freedom? - but he is doing it.

[rushmc 23]

Regarding shark jumping


http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/06/01/doj-blasts-report-sessions-may-have-met-privately-with-russian-official.html

But then the media nose ring is tight will many of you.

That said, I still have no opinion one way or another as I prefer to wait and see with comes out.

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[billvon 2,991]

I am disappointed that you only used two Rush cliches and one FOX News link in your latest drive-by post. Where's the "fake news" claim? Where's the Clinton-did-it-first? Where's the Breitbart or white supremacist link to "prove" something? You're slipping.

[rushmc 23]

billvon

I am disappointed that you only used two Rush cliches and one FOX News link in your latest drive-by post. Where's the "fake news" claim? Where's the Clinton-did-it-first? Where's the Breitbart or white supremacist link to "prove" something? You're slipping.

You are getting more bitter the longer Trump is in office.

Now, time to get off that shark Bill.

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln