Lawndarter 3 #1301 October 30, 2017 It's been clear for a while (to me, at least) that Manafort would be the first to go down, and his little underling is being indicted most likely to roll on Manafort and anyone else. Trump, the total loser he is, will likely wind up implicating himself in something before long. And the uranium story, I can't believe anyone is dumb enough to fall for something like that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil1111 1,149 #1302 October 30, 2017 LawndarterIt's been clear for a while (to me, at least) that Manafort would be the first to go down, and his little underling is being indicted most likely to roll on Manafort and anyone else. Trump, the total loser he is, will likely wind up implicating himself in something before long. And the uranium story, I can't believe anyone is dumb enough to fall for something like that. Nobody, NOBODY, unites "trump conservatives" like HRC. At least the remaining 38, and shrinking,percent. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,996 #1303 October 30, 2017 Top excuses Huckabee may use today (my predictions) - 1. This has NOTHING TO DO with Trump or the administration! I don't know why you are even talking about it. 2. Crooked Hillary Clinton - lock her up! Uranium! Weinstein! Uh . . Kevin Spacey! 3. Evil liberal press etc etc. 4. Manafort actually worked for Obama. 5. Paul who? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,027 #1304 October 30, 2017 billvonTop excuses Huckabee may use today (my predictions) - Uh . . Kevin Spacey! And Spacey plays a DEM in House of Cards. A DEM!!!... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 801 #1305 October 30, 2017 Interesting wording in Manafort's charges caught my eye "together with others". The pleas deal Popadopolpus [spelling?] already made are also interesting. Oh - and Fox "news" is reporting on a cheeseburger emoji crisis. But after that amazing World Series game last night, I'm running on very little sleep today. Waking Skymama at 1:45 am screaming at the finish was not a good move. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yoink 321 #1306 October 30, 2017 billvonTop excuses Huckabee may use today (my predictions) - 1. This has NOTHING TO DO with Trump or the administration! I don't know why you are even talking about it. It doesn't - at the moment. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DJL 235 #1307 October 30, 2017 yoink***Top excuses Huckabee may use today (my predictions) - 1. This has NOTHING TO DO with Trump or the administration! I don't know why you are even talking about it. It doesn't - at the moment. They'll probably use this as leverage for other stuff. It is important to clarify that the charges currently have nothing to do with the campaign. That is if these guys don't end up with a sudden heart condition or whatever Putin's guys serve up in the Gulag."I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 801 #1308 October 30, 2017 Sure it does: Papadopoulos documents Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yoink 321 #1309 October 30, 2017 DJL******Top excuses Huckabee may use today (my predictions) - 1. This has NOTHING TO DO with Trump or the administration! I don't know why you are even talking about it. It doesn't - at the moment. They'll probably use this as leverage for other stuff. It is important to clarify that the charges currently have nothing to do with the campaign. Precisely. The left need to make sure they don't get all gloaty just yet. As far as I'm concerned it's still mostly a nothingburger, but like you say it may well shake loose a few new things. Those are what I'll be interested in. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,996 #1310 October 30, 2017 Story background: =========================== Trump's Former Foreign Policy Adviser Pleads Guilty To Lying To The FBI NPR October 30, 2017 George Papadopoulos, who worked for President Trump's campaign as a foreign policy adviser, has pleaded guilty to lying to FBI agents about meeting a professor with Russian ties who had promised to provide "dirt" on Trump's Democratic rival, Hillary Clinton. Papadopoulos, 30, pleaded guilty on Oct. 5, in an agreement that is only being unsealed on Monday after Trump's former campaign chairman Paul Manafort was taken into federal custody, indicted along with his top deputy on charges that range from conspiracy against the United States to conspiracy to launder money. . . . . Papadopoulos told agents that the professor had told him the Russians had "dirt" on Hillary Clinton, according to court documents. He met with the professor around March 14, after joining the Trump campaign, the Justice Department says. More than a month later, the professor told Papadopoulos that the damaging information was in the form of "thousands of emails." . . . The charge against Papadopoulos carries a maximum sentence of five years in prison and a $250,000 fine. In the plea deal, the government agrees to reduce its sentencing recommendation under federal sentencing guidelines, dropping from a 6 to a 4 on its scale of base offense levels. It will be up to a court to determine the severity of Papadopoulos' punishment. ============================= Sounds like the first of many. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,996 #1311 October 30, 2017 >It doesn't - at the moment. I'd say that Trump's campaign chairman being charged with being a Ukranian agent and laundering money from Russia has something to do with the Trump campaign's dealings with Russia. How much it has to do with it remains to be seen - but "nothing" really isn't an option any more. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mr2mk1g 10 #1312 October 30, 2017 Lol, one of Trump's campaign advisers lying to the FBI about contacts with Putin's niece. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,996 #1313 October 30, 2017 From Papadopoulos, an admission that the campaign was trying to hide their contacts with Russia: “We need someone to communicate that DT is not doing these trips [to Russia.] It should be someone low level in the campaign so as not to send any signal.” Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,027 #1314 October 30, 2017 I bet he regrets saying this now. @newtgingrich: "Nobody should underestimate how much Paul Manafort did to really help get this [Trump] campaign to where it is right now." 7:08 PM - 19 Aug 2016... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 801 #1315 October 30, 2017 Popadopolpus had email contact with 5 senior campaign officials. It has become clear that these officials wanted the contact with Russians. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 2,198 #1316 October 30, 2017 Yes, now an official of the campaign has pled guilty to lying to investigators about the campaign's relationship and contact with Putin's people. That's a pretty juicy patty on the now something burger. And the Manafort/Gates charges are looking like some tasty cheese and special sauce. A burger we can all dig into! I wonder who will supply the lettuce and tomato soon?Always remember the brave children who died defending your right to bear arms. Freedom is not free. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lawndarter 3 #1317 October 30, 2017 gowlerkA burger we can all dig into! I wonder who will supply the lettuce and tomato soon? Well done, with ketchup. I can't wait to watch the dominos fall. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 801 #1318 October 30, 2017 White House Press Secretary is continuing the lies. Unreal. Oh, and our tax system was described as a tale of buddies drinking beer together and sharing the tab. *Edited for crazy fingers. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 801 #1319 October 30, 2017 "Proactive cooperator" means wearing a wire. This nothing burger keeps getting juicier. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,996 #1320 October 30, 2017 >This nothing burger keeps getting juicier. Seems like only yesterday when RushMC was claiming things like "the sound of the deflation is going to be defining when this dry's up and goes away." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 801 #1321 October 30, 2017 It would appear that RushMC has grown tired of defending all of this "winning" and has gone quiet. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,996 #1322 October 30, 2017 Sanders is stuffing Papadopoulos under the bus just as fast as she can move her lips: ========== White House press secretary Sanders again described former foreign policy adviser George Papadopoulos as a junior player on the campaign team, calling him a "member of a volunteer counsel that met one time over the course of a year." ========== "George who?" Up next - "yeah, we really had no idea what he was working on. What's that? You say he was meeting with Russians? News to us!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mr2mk1g 10 #1323 October 30, 2017 [Quote]News to us!" The FBI have his emails to the campagim telling them all about it - there's reference to them in the admission published today. They're how they caught him in the lie. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,996 #1324 October 30, 2017 >The FBI have his emails to the campagim telling them all about it And Trump himself tweeted out a picture of him, Papadopoulos and Sessions sitting at a table, with the heading "National Security Meeting." It might turn out that tweeting so much isn't the best plan ever. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 801 #1325 October 30, 2017 For the country, it actually might be. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites