ryoder 1,590 #276 July 27, 2017 Cantor comes clean, admits he didn’t believe his own ACA rhetoric http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/cantor-comes-clean-admits-he-didnt-believe-his-own-aca-rhetoric"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stumpy 284 #277 July 27, 2017 ryoderCantor comes clean, admits he didn’t believe his own ACA rhetoric http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/cantor-comes-clean-admits-he-didnt-believe-his-own-aca-rhetoric The "Yeah I said it but only to get votes/ratings, I didn't really believe it" line seems to be pretty common with GOP politicians/mouthpieces. Shame the voters can't see through it.Never try to eat more than you can lift Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,363 #278 July 27, 2017 Hi Robert, QuoteCantor and his colleagues, in other words, played their base for fools Nothing new there, they've been doing it for years. The sad part is that the 'fools' cannot see the truth; or do not want to. Jerry Baumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,991 #279 July 27, 2017 In another thread I discussed how the GOP specializes in using hate, anger and outrage as tools to control their party. Cantor confirms that here. "if you’ve got that anger working for you, you’re gonna let it be." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #280 July 28, 2017 Lindsey Graham, John McCain, Ron Johnson and Bill Cassidy say they will not vote for "skinny" Obamacare repeal unless they get assurances that it will not become law. http://www.cnbc.com/2017/07/27/mccain-graham-johnson-lay-out-terms-for-supporting-obamacare-repeal.html WTF would you vote for something if not intending for it to become law???"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,991 #281 July 28, 2017 QuoteLindsey Graham, John McCain, Ron Johnson and Bill Cassidy say they will not vote for "skinny" Obamacare repeal unless they get assurances that it will not become law. http://www.cnbc.com/...bamacare-repeal.html WTF would you vote for something if not intending for it to become law? Plausible deniability. "Yes, I voted for the law" (ka-ching, party money flows to their re-election) "but they PROMISED me that it wasn't for real, or I would NEVER have voted for this travesty!" (moderates think "this guy isn't so bad") Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 800 #282 July 28, 2017 "If the people who wrote this bill were proud of it, they wouldn’t be forcing this vote in the dead of night." -- Mitch McConnell, 2009 It's looking like we're all about to get fucked. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,991 #283 July 28, 2017 normiss"If the people who wrote this bill were proud of it, they wouldn’t be forcing this vote in the dead of night." -- Mitch McConnell, 2009 It's looking like we're all about to get fucked. Oh yes. CBO score - 16 million lose coverage, average premium increase 20%. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 800 #284 July 28, 2017 I'd be VERY tempted to cancel our coverage given that increase. Assuming my employer wouldn't drop coverage, which I would expect them not to. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
headoverheels 333 #285 July 28, 2017 Down goes the vote. Everyone in the Senate should be embarrassed that they even voted on such a half-assed piece of legislation, no matter what their views on the policy are. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,027 #286 July 28, 2017 headoverheelsDown goes the vote. Everyone in the Senate should be embarrassed that they even voted on such a half-assed piece of legislation, no matter what their views on the policy are. Fiasco, brought to you by the GOP! thehill.com/policy/healthcare/344268-senate-defeats-obamacare-repeal-measure Sen. Lindsey O. Graham (R-S.C.) called it a “disaster” and a “fraud.” Sen. David Perdue (R-Ga.) said “the only possible problem” with it is that the House might vote for it too. And Sen. Mike Rounds (R-S.D.) wanted a guarantee that the House won’t turn around and pass it.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stumpy 284 #287 July 28, 2017 All this winning is getting wearisome.Never try to eat more than you can lift Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 2,191 #288 July 28, 2017 Judging by many things some of them have said there are more than 3 R Senators who know that the bill was just plain wrong. But in the end two women plus John McCain were the only ones willing to man up. Bravisimo!Always remember the brave children who died defending your right to bear arms. Freedom is not free. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yoink 321 #289 July 28, 2017 gowlerkJudging by many things some of them have said there are more than 3 R Senators who know that the bill was just plain wrong. But in the end two women plus John McCain were the only ones willing to man up. Bravisimo! That in itself is fucked up. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stumpy 284 #290 July 28, 2017 McConnell blames dems http://www.politico.com/story/2017/07/28/mcconnell-blames-democrats-healthcare-loss-241067 Utterly shameless. Complaining the dems didn't engage when they didn't get the bill out till the last minute, then wouldn't take questions or do any real debate. How exactly is ANYONE supposed to engage with that?Never try to eat more than you can lift Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #291 July 28, 2017 Bipartisan House group meets quietly on Obamacare http://www.politico.com/story/2017/07/28/house-group-obamacare-repeal-meeting-241083"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #292 July 28, 2017 Video of the moment McCain voted. It is a bit hard to see since his back is to the camera, and he apparently walked to the front and got the attention of the guy recording the votes, instead of just waiting to be called. https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4678420/john-mccain-votes-obamacare-repeal-amendment"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #293 July 28, 2017 Actually they called his name and he was not in the room so they kept moving down the list, he returned to the room and then did the thumbs down right in front of McConnell and then walked away. Earlier in the evening he had a group meeting with some Dems in the chamber and told them the sutation so it was not 100% unexpected but still a shock to most not in the know.Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #294 July 28, 2017 Trump Supporters Furious That They Still Have Health Care http://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/trump-supporters-furious-that-they-still-have-health-care"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pchapman 279 #295 July 28, 2017 ryoderTrump Supporters Furious That They Still Have Health Care http://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/trump-supporters-furious-that-they-still-have-health-care Just to note for anyone not checking the actual page, that's the New Yorker's Borowitz Report, which is satire. Yeah I know, hard to tell the difference these days. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 800 #296 July 28, 2017 Not hard to tell at all, it's Borowitz. At his best, as usual. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #297 July 28, 2017 normiss Not hard to tell at all, it's Borowitz. At his best, as usual. I recommend everyone subscribe to his FB page. He is an endless source of side-splitting one-liners!"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,991 #298 August 1, 2017 For the latest conservative pundit attacking Obamacare who is actually ON Obamacare we have Toni Lahren - ============================ Tomi Lahren admits she benefits from Obamacare during Chelsea Handler debate at Politicon Mary Bowerman, USA TODAY Network Published 8:00 a.m. ET July 31, 2017 Outspoken conservative commentator Tomi Lahren admitted she still benefits from a feature of Obamacare while arguing against it during a debate with Chelsea Handler on Saturday. Lahren and Handler faced off at Politicon, a non-partisan event, which features debates, panels, film, and comedy. As expected, Lahren and Handler's conversation turned towards the Affordable Care Act, or Obamacare. Lahren, who supports Trump, slammed Obamacare and told Handler that while she believes in her right to purchase healthcare, she doesn't "believe it's my right to pay for it for other people,"Fortune reported. While Lahren continued to rail on Obamacare, she admitted that she is still on her parent's health insurance plan because of it. "Do you have a healthcare plan or no?" Handler asked Lahren during the exchange, according to Fortune. "Well luckily, I'm 24, so I am still on my parents'," Lahren said. The comment quickly drew a response from the crowd, which cheered and clapped. A key component of the Affordable Care Act is that dependent children can stay on a parent's plan until age 26. ============================= Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,991 #299 August 10, 2017 Kudos to the republicans _and_ democrats who are starting to work together to fix the problems with Obamacare. They keep this up and we might just end up with a functioning government - despite Trump. ===================== Senator announces bipartisan health care hearing on Obamacare By Madison Park, CNN Wed August 2, 2017 (CNN)Several Republican and Democrat lawmakers agree that Congress needs to prevent a collapse of the health insurance market, which could hurt millions of consumers -- and that concern has opened up some bipartisan dialogue. Sen. Lamar Alexander, R-Tennessee, said the Senate health committee will hold bipartisan health care hearings on how to repair the individual market. In the House, a group of 40 lawmakers from both parties endorsed an outline of ideas aimed at making urgent fixes to Obamacare. The step toward bipartisanship on health care comes as some Republicans consider an approach that diverges from the president's stance. ========================= Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfriverjoe 1,523 #300 August 10, 2017 Wait a minute. Hold hearings? Openly discuss what may or should happen? Solicit input from people who may actually know something about it? Or be affected by it? Heavens to Murgatroid!!! We can't do that!! It's how the legislative process is supposed to work."There are NO situations which do not call for a French Maid outfit." Lucky McSwervy "~ya don't GET old by being weak & stupid!" - Airtwardo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
