#tregret

[headoverheels 333]

airdvr

"They need to fix the health care program because it's broken. They have to get off their high horse and just do it."

I'm wondering whose broken health care program this is?

I really don't know what the vet is complaining about, other than the spotty/variable veteran's admin health care. Thanks to the Affordable Care Act, he was actually able to get insurance after he lost his job and had a serious illness. I'll be doing something similar in 9 weeks when my COBRA coverage ends.

Apparently the Vet care varies widely. A guy that worked for me chose to use veteran's medical care rather than our platinum corporate health care plan, so it must be pretty good here. Not what I hear in general for other locations.

[wolfriverjoe 1,523]

headoverheels

*** "They need to fix the health care program because it's broken. They have to get off their high horse and just do it."

I'm wondering whose broken health care program this is?

I really don't know what the vet is complaining about, other than the spotty/variable veteran's admin health care. Thanks to the Affordable Care Act, he was actually able to get insurance after he lost his job and had a serious illness. I'll be doing something similar in 9 weeks when my COBRA coverage ends.

Apparently the Vet care varies widely. A guy that worked for me chose to use veteran's medical care rather than our platinum corporate health care plan, so it must be pretty good here. Not what I hear in general for other locations.

Well, what did the Republicans want to do?
What did they try to do, both before and after the 2016 election?
What was one of Trump's biggest promises (that pretty much failed)?

Repeal Obamacare.
If they had succeeded in that, this guy would likely be SOL.

And I agree that the VA can be somewhat 'hit or miss' depending on where you are.
But, anywhere, the waits are pretty long.

"There are NO situations which do not call for a French Maid outfit." Lucky McSwervy

"~ya don't GET old by being weak & stupid!" - Airtwardo

[billvon 3,030]

Lots of #tregret out there these days.
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The Trump voters who feel cheated

‘I wanted to believe in Mr Trump,’ one manufacturing worker laid off after 30 years says. ‘This has been a slap in the face’

Dominic Rushe
Sun 4 Nov 2018
The Guardian

Donald Trump won the votes of many in middle America in 2016 by promising to bring back manufacturing jobs to the US.
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The union-backed Good Jobs Nation has been sending workers to Trump rallies to pressure the president to keep his promise of stopping offshoring on “day one” of his presidency. The Guardian caught up with two of those workers.

Tommy Wolikow, 36, Lordstown, Ohio:

"I worked at the GM [General Motors] plant for nine years. And I was laid off January 20, 2017, the same day that President Trump was inaugurated. When I got hired at GM I thought I’d be set for life. My father had 42 years there. A lot of those jobs went to Mexico.

In July I went to a Trump rally in Youngstown. It really gave us hope. I had never been that political but I heard what he said and I took him at his word. It was like he was directly looking at you. I was a Trump supporter. He said jobs were coming back, don’t sell your house.

It’s been two years now since his election and all I see is more job losses. I went back to school, I’m a qualified diesel technician, I got my Class A [commercial] driver’s license. I did what you are supposed to do. The jobs that are out there in my area are all low-paying. I can’t raise my three daughters on those wages. People are picking up and leaving.

My fiancee [who worked at GM and was laid off] and I were making $50 an hour. Now she’s making $4.15 an hour plus tips as a waitress at Cracker Barrel. I have credit card debts, I don’t know how I’ll get out of this hole. I had a boat, a motorcycle – I had all the luxuries of a good-paying job, now I don’t have any of that.

I keep applying for jobs but nothing is coming up. I keep hanging on to hope. We are hard workers. We don’t want a handout, we want a hand up. I am going to be voting this election 100%. I still have some things to work out. But come ballot time my vote is going to the person who supports the voting man. Every day that goes by that I don’t see anything happening it looks more like he lied."

Susan Cropper, 57, Gas City, Indiana:

"I spent 30 years working for United Technologies [UT]. We made control panels for heating and air units that were sent to the Carrier plant in Indianapolis [owned by UT]. President Trump went on national news and talked about saving their jobs [after UT said it would move jobs to Mexico]. We knew we were getting closed down but we kinda hoped he would be able to save some of our jobs too. He was talking about bringing jobs back. There was a glimmer of hope. It didn’t work out that way.

I voted for President Trump. I believed we needed a change. There had been so much corruption. All of them making all these promises and then not following through. I wanted to believe in Mr Trump.

For me this has been a slap in the face. Our jobs will not come back. We need to get President Trump to understand that these corporations are sending our jobs offshore and we are giving them our tax dollars. Why should we give them money when they take away good, tax-paying jobs that support our families? We put him in office.

I’ve been unemployed since March. I have put out so many résumés. I have interviewed. Once you hit 50, you are not as employable. Most of the jobs out there don’t support you. They want you to give everything for $9 an hour and no benefits. I believe I am worth more than that. I was making $17.36 and benefits before.

My children are out on their own, I don’t know how I’d make it through if I had to worry about supporting a child. I could live in my car, I suppose. I don’t want to. These politicians don’t understand the devastation of not having money coming in. I was used to be working a lot of overtime. Now I am out of money. Now I have credit card debt. I have to look at food banks and those kind of options. When you have worked for 35 years and these are your options, it’s troubling.

I have already voted and I voted Democratic . . . . The local level is not the issue, it’s at the White House level. Politicians have forgotten who we are and what we need. They have so much money, their pockets are lined by corporations."
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[Phil1111 1,149]

and lots of agreement:
Gallup: 60 percent of Americans disapprove of Trump
https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/418301-gallup-60-percent-of-americans-disapprove-of-trump

[kallend 2,058]

Trump breaks the 60% mark.

60% of Americans disapprove.

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[DJL 235]

kallend

Trump breaks the 60% mark.

60% of Americans disapprove.

I'm still getting giggle from when Trump supporters where bragging about how occasionally his ratings were better than Obama - the guy they describe as the worst President ever. Hmmm, ratings only occasionally better than "the worst President ever", hmmmm.....

"I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher

[kallend 2,058]

Not sure this is truly #tregret, but Fox News attack dog Tucker Carlson turned on Trump: "I don't think he's capable".

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[ryoder 1,590]

kallend

Not sure this is truly #tregret, but Fox News attack dog Tucker Carlson turned on Trump: "I don't think he's capable".

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2018/12/06/hes-not-capable-trump-has-achieved-nothing-tucker-carlson-says/

"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones.

[ryoder 1,590]

Ammon Bundy Is Quitting The Militia Movement After Breaking With Trump On Anti-Immigrant Rhetoric
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/salvadorhernandez/ammon-bundy-helped-bolster-the-militia-movement-now-hes

"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones.

[ryoder 1,590]

Texas Trump voter now fears the president will seize her family’s land to build his border wall

https://www.rawstory.com/2018/12/texas-trump-voter-now-fears-president-will-seize-familys-land-build-border-wall/

"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones.

[billvon 3,030]

A Tea Partyer said this about eight years ago and it perfectly sums up the position of most conservatives today. She was asked if she would still support the Tea Party if it meant less government spending and potentially losing benefits.

"That’s a conundrum, isn’t it? I don’t know what to say. Maybe I don’t want smaller government. I guess I want smaller government and my Social Security. I didn’t look at it from the perspective of losing things I need. I think I’ve changed my mind."

They want a wall, more spending, Social Security, less taxes etc etc - and will want those things only up until the point that it inconveniences them in the slightest.

[Phil1111 1,149]

The Russell 2000 is a index of 2000 US small cap companies.

As of today(1349) it is below the same date two years ago(1388) just before trump scammed America and voters. By becoming president.

Soon the statements will be going out to show trump voters how their retirement savings have vanished. Rightfully so, decisions have consequence.

All the benefits of $1 trillion in tax breaks. All the supposed benefits of "deregulation". Nothing to show for it except trump debt.

[ryoder 1,590]

Ann Coulter on Trump in The Daily Caller:

Without mincing words to The Daily Caller’s Derek Hunter Wednesday morning, Coulter believes Trump will “just have been a joke presidency who scammed the American people, amused the populist for a while, but he’ll have no legacy whatsoever,” without the wall, a campaign promise the administration appears to be walking back ahead of the potential government shutdown.

“No. Nor will, I think, most of his supporters. Why would you?” Coulter responded when asked if Trump could count on her vote. (RELATED: Coulter Unloads: ‘A Joke Presidency’ That ‘Scammed The American People’ With Promises Of A Wall)

“To make sure, I don’t know, Ivanka [Trump] and Jared [Kushner] can make money? That seems to be the main point of the presidency at this point,” she quipped.


Source: https://dailycaller.com/2018/12/19/ann-coulter-trump-border-wall-2020/

And in related news today, Donny appears to have unfollowed Coulter on Twitter: https://twitter.com/trumpsalert/status/1075551378125148161

"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones.

[Phil1111 1,149]

ryoder

Ann Coulter on Trump in The Daily Caller:

Without mincing words to The Daily Caller’s Derek Hunter Wednesday morning, Coulter believes Trump will “just have been a joke presidency who scammed the American people, amused the populist for a while, but he’ll have no legacy whatsoever,” without the wall, a campaign promise the administration appears to be walking back ahead of the potential government shutdown.

“No. Nor will, I think, most of his supporters. Why would you?” Coulter responded when asked if Trump could count on her vote. (RELATED: Coulter Unloads: ‘A Joke Presidency’ That ‘Scammed The American People’ With Promises Of A Wall)

“To make sure, I don’t know, Ivanka [Trump] and Jared [Kushner] can make money? That seems to be the main point of the presidency at this point,” she quipped.


Source: https://dailycaller.com/2018/12/19/ann-coulter-trump-border-wall-2020/

And in related news today, Donny appears to have unfollowed Coulter on Twitter: https://twitter.com/trumpsalert/status/1075551378125148161

Ann is slightly to the left of Ron and Evangelicals. The current gov't shutdown can be directly attributed to her. Its long been rumored that one of her books is the last one ever read by trump.

May 26, Coulter did a combative interview in Miami with the bilingual Fusion TV network’s host Jorge Ramos,...

Ramos: “You’ve said that Americans should fear immigrants more than ISIS.” Coulter: “Yes.... If you don’t want to be killed by ISIS, don’t go to Syria. If you don’t want to be killed by a Mexican, there’s nothing I can tell you.”...

“I was on my way back to the airport to fly to New York City when I got an email from Trump’s office requesting that a copy of the book be overnighted to him,” recalls Coulter. Two weeks later, Trump delivered his famous — or infamous — speech about Mexico dumping “criminals, drug dealers, rapists, et ceterera” into the United States
https://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics-government/article73186372.html

trump's wall, trump's immigration policy, "brown hordes of illegals despoiling white America" are all from the mouth of Coulter.

[ryoder 1,590]

You can't convince me Trump has ever read any book;
More likely Ivanka read it to him as a bedtime story.

"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones.

[ScottishJohn 25]

I think hell has just frozen over

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If you think my attitude stinks you should smell my fingers

[billvon 3,030]

Lot of workers (not just government) feeling the #tregret today. From WaPo:
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Far away from the behemoth federal office complexes in Washington, small towns and cities with workforces dependent on government jobs are beginning to feel the pinch of one of the longest shutdowns in history, now at more than two weeks old.

Many of the affected federal workers — including 10,000 people in Utah, 6,200 in West Virginia and 5,500 in Alabama — have salaries far below the average $85,000 for government employees. But those paychecks drive local economies, and workers are starting to make tough choices about how to spend them — eating out less, limiting travel and shopping at food pantries instead of grocery stores — creating a ripple effect through the neighborhoods and towns where they live.
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“I’m concerned about the financial challenges that many Utah families and businesses could face as federal workers start to miss paychecks. That’s especially true in Ogden, given the thousands of federal employees there who work for the IRS and the U.S. Forest Service,” Mitt Romney said in a statement to The Washington Post. “I’m hopeful this will be resolved soon in a way that protects border security and reopens the government, and that’s what I’ll be focused on with my colleagues as negotiations continue.”
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“Fear. It’s just plain, flat-out fear,” Nielsen said, describing how federal employees are feeling. “One lady goes, ‘My bills keep coming. They don’t shut those down.’ ”

Sophia Lopez, a 25-year veteran of the IRS, piled cereal, loaves of bread, bags of avocados, apples and other food into a shopping cart.

“It’s kind of embarrassing to come to this,” said Lopez, a 53-year-old single mother who cares for an adult disabled son. “But now that it’s lasted so long, and I don’t know when we’re going back, I have to. I’m like scrimping and scraping.”

The financial insecurity has brought her to tears, she said. Her boss recently heard that her job will be considered exempt starting Monday, meaning she will have to go to work but won’t get paid.

“I’m really angry at the president,” she said. “How can he do this to his own people?”
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[JerryBaumchen 1,385]

Hi Bill,

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“How can he do this to his own people?”

She simply fails to understand Trump.

Jerry Baumchen

[ryoder 1,590]

JerryBaumchen

Hi Bill,

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“How can he do this to his own people?”

She simply fails to understand Trump.

Jerry Baumchen

"His own people" are his immediate family. Period.
How can someone not realize that by now?

"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones.

[billvon 3,030]

A look inside the mind of a former Trump supporter:

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A few miles away, another prison employee, Crystal Minton, accompanied her fiancé to a friend’s house to help clear the remnants of a metal roof mangled by the hurricane. Ms. Minton, a 38-year-old secretary, said she had obtained permission from the warden to put off her Mississippi duty until early February because she is a single mother caring for disabled parents. Her fiancé plans to take vacation days to look after Ms. Minton’s 7-year-old twins once she has to go to work [at Marianna Prison in Florida.]

The shutdown on top of the hurricane has caused Ms. Minton to rethink a lot of things.

“I voted for him, and he’s the one who’s doing this,” she said of Mr. Trump. “I thought he was going to do good things. He’s not hurting the people he needs to be hurting.”
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So her issue isn't that he is hurting people. It's that he is not hurting the RIGHT people. If he'd just hurt democrats, she'd be fine with that.

A perfect summation of much of the right wing.

[gowlerk 2,217]

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So her issue isn't that he is hurting people. It's that he is not hurting the RIGHT people. If he'd just hurt democrats, she'd be fine with that.

Or, she bought into the "I'm for the little people" lie. Some of the Trumpeteers believed that he would take power away from the "insiders".

Always remember the brave children who died defending your right to bear arms. Freedom is not free.

[wolfriverjoe 1,523]

gowlerk

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So her issue isn't that he is hurting people. It's that he is not hurting the RIGHT people. If he'd just hurt democrats, she'd be fine with that.

Or, she bought into the "I'm for the little people" lie. Some of the Trumpeteers believed that he would take power away from the "insiders".

Well, he shouted "LOCK HER UP!!!!", didn't he?

Didn't that mean he was going after the 'elite and powerful"?
Didn't that mean he was going to be for the 'little people'?





We really need a 'sarcasm' font.

"There are NO situations which do not call for a French Maid outfit." Lucky McSwervy

"~ya don't GET old by being weak & stupid!" - Airtwardo

[normiss 814]

I'm unsure of which Trump is an idiot thread to post items of late....but:

DC law allows the water authority to shut off water to a customer for nonpayment after 30 days & place a lien on a property until full payment is completed after 60 days.
The White House missed its water payment due to Trump’s government shutdown.
Irony.

DC Water Board discussion

Maybe it's just bankruptcy again, he seems to think of that as a positive tool.

[normiss 814]

#TaxStory  is a rather interesting trending hashtag on Twitter.

Seems to be a lot of #Tregret regarding taxes as the tax "cut" starts being realized and felt by hard working, tax paying, Americans.

BOHICA

[billvon 3,030]

40 minutes ago, normiss said:

#TaxStory  is a rather interesting trending hashtag on Twitter.

Seems to be a lot of #Tregret regarding taxes as the tax "cut" starts being realized and felt by hard working, tax paying, Americans.

BOHICA

To paraphrase the immortal Otter:

You fucked up!  You trusted Trump.  Hey, just make the best of it.