DJL 235 #101 April 10, 2017 Of those Afghanistan and Iraq are tied together. Sure, Saddam needed to go but at least he was on a leash. Never should have gone in until Afghanistan was stable which would have been a long, long time. Libya, etc are tied into the Arab Spring that burned it's way through the Middle Eastern states. On one end was Libya on the other Syria in which our actions and inactions in Iraq have helped to exacerbate."I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,991 #102 April 10, 2017 >You think these missiles now make Russia amore willing participant? Well, warning them first, giving them time to move assets and not targeting their runways lessened any pain the Russians felt, I am sure. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil1111 1,149 #103 April 10, 2017 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVUkeBUiXoE At 46 seconds story starts on the headline of a Moscow newspaper: "We Believed in You Comrade Donald trump" The Donald disappointing voters, people and women all over the world. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #104 April 11, 2017 Keith Olbermann sums it up perfectly: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGFel-fhGkw"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tkhayes 348 #105 April 11, 2017 agreed. If you wanted to project strength, at the very least you would have leveled the airbase. Or perhaps lobbed a few missiles within a couple blocks of Assad's palace to 'send the message' that you can get to him any time you want. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,991 #106 April 11, 2017 The latest: Spicer claimed that Assad was worse than Hitler! After all, Assad used poison gas and Hitler didn't: "Look. We didn't use chemical weapons in WWII. We … We had someone as despicable as Hitler who didn't even sink to using chemical weapons.” But what about all six million or so people he killed with - you know - poison gas? "I think when you come to Sarin gas, there was no, he was not using the gas on his own people in the same way. that Ashad is doing. There was not .. he brought them into the holocaust center, I understand that. But I’m saying the way that Assad used them were he went into town and dropped them down to innocent … to the middle of town.” So that clears it up. Assad was using poison gas on INNOCENT people from his own country. Not like Hitler. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #107 April 11, 2017 billvonSo that clears it up. Assad was using poison gas on INNOCENT people from his own country. Not like Hitler. yeah, he's way out of his depth, they need someone that either: 1 - just doesn't try to improvise - stick to the script 2 - someone MUCH better at this job look, it's just not working out.......maybe something a little less public is a better fit ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DJL 235 #108 April 11, 2017 Speaking of blame, leave it to Putin to preemptively muddy the waters and claim that there will be fake attacks. http://www.reuters.com/article/us-mideast-crisis-syria-usa-putin-idUSKBN17D1K9 After seeing that I have no doubt that there will be further use of chemical weapons and Syria/Russia will claim they are fake/false flag operations. Also, look at that graph in the middle as to who is killing the most civilians. Holy shit!"I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
headoverheels 333 #109 April 11, 2017 rehmwa look, it's just not working out.......maybe something a little less public is a better fit I expected Spicer to be gone 6 weeks ago. Maybe no one else will accept the job? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
headoverheels 333 #110 April 11, 2017 DJL After seeing that I have no doubt that there will be further use of chemical weapons and Syria/Russia will claim they are fake/false flag operations. There was a line on the 2013 gas attacks that they were a Turkish initiated false flag operation. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DJL 235 #111 April 11, 2017 headoverheels*** look, it's just not working out.......maybe something a little less public is a better fit I expected Spicer to be gone 6 weeks ago. Maybe no one else will accept the job? There isn't enough money in the Trump Dynasty to do that job but I would guess Steven Miller, aka Goebells. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgypWo0DCps"I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil1111 1,149 #112 April 11, 2017 DJL****** look, it's just not working out.......maybe something a little less public is a better fit I expected Spicer to be gone 6 weeks ago. Maybe no one else will accept the job? There isn't enough money in the Trump Dynasty to do that job but I would guess Steven Miller, aka Goebells. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgypWo0DCps trump in his wisdom has already planned for Spicers replacement. Why do you think he amended his EO to allow another nation? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfAeMtcURg0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,991 #113 April 11, 2017 >I expected Spicer to be gone 6 weeks ago. Maybe no one else will accept the job? Would you? Most people are too smart to try to be a spokesman for someone who doesn't even understand his own policies. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sonnyblu 0 #114 April 11, 2017 ryoderKeith Olbermann sums it up perfectly: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGFel-fhGkw Gish Galloping all the way to his last chance retirement fund. He couldn't hack it on ESPN, FOX Sports nor MSNBC, so now they just tucked him away in the corner of GQ's youtube channel. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sonnyblu 0 #115 April 11, 2017 tkhayesagreed. If you wanted to project strength, at the very least you would have leveled the airbase. Or perhaps lobbed a few missiles within a couple blocks of Assad's palace to 'send the message' that you can get to him any time you want. It's funny how everyone all of a sudden is a military strategist. I doubt Trump was the only one involved with how the attack was to take place. What if the U.S has plans for those runways in the near future? It's not like that's something you'd want to disclose. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sonnyblu 0 #116 April 11, 2017 billvonThe latest: Spicer claimed that Assad was worse than Hitler! Well, if Trump is like Hitler, Mussolini, and Stalin, then it's not really that far of a stretch, is it? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,991 #117 April 11, 2017 >I doubt Trump was the only one involved with how the attack was to take place. >What if the U.S has plans for those runways in the near future? Yes, I am sure that's it. It was a brilliant long term military strategy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,489 #118 April 11, 2017 headoverheels*** look, it's just not working out.......maybe something a little less public is a better fit I expected Spicer to be gone 6 weeks ago. Maybe no one else will accept the job? Spicer has something that's more important than being good at the job - he's a true believer.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,027 #119 April 12, 2017 headoverheels*** look, it's just not working out.......maybe something a little less public is a better fit I expected Spicer to be gone 6 weeks ago. Maybe no one else will accept the job? I hear the head of PR for United Airlines may be interested.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #120 April 12, 2017 billvonThe latest: Spicer claimed that Assad was worse than Hitler! After all, Assad used poison gas and Hitler didn't: "Look. We didn't use chemical weapons in WWII. We … We had someone as despicable as Hitler who didn't even sink to using chemical weapons.” But what about all six million or so people he killed with - you know - poison gas? "I think when you come to Sarin gas, there was no, he was not using the gas on his own people in the same way. that Ashad is doing. There was not .. he brought them into the holocaust center, I understand that. But I’m saying the way that Assad used them were he went into town and dropped them down to innocent … to the middle of town.” So that clears it up. Assad was using poison gas on INNOCENT people from his own country. Not like Hitler. Pfff, not like he said it during Passover or anything.... Wait.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil1111 1,149 #121 April 12, 2017 SkyDekker***The latest: Spicer claimed that Assad was worse than Hitler! After all, Assad used poison gas and Hitler didn't: "Look. We didn't use chemical weapons in WWII. We … We had someone as despicable as Hitler who didn't even sink to using chemical weapons.” But what about all six million or so people he killed with - you know - poison gas? "I think when you come to Sarin gas, there was no, he was not using the gas on his own people in the same way. that Ashad is doing. There was not .. he brought them into the holocaust center, I understand that. But I’m saying the way that Assad used them were he went into town and dropped them down to innocent … to the middle of town.” So that clears it up. Assad was using poison gas on INNOCENT people from his own country. Not like Hitler. Pfff, not like he said it during Passover or anything.... Wait.. I have to stand up for Sean. I've said it before. How in the hell do you go out every day to try to lie for trump. 60-70% of what trump says is a lie. Those journalists know their business. Assad does have concentration camps so to say. "Here’s how one former detainee described the terrifying beatings that those about to be hanged are made to endure: “We would hear a huge sound. From 10pm until 12, or from 11pm until 1am, we would hear screaming and yelling come from below us … This is a very important point. If you keep silent, you will get less beating at Saydnaya. But these people were screaming like they had lost their minds … It wasn’t a normal sound – it was not ordinary. It sounded like they were skinning them alive.” As for the hangings themselves, witnesses have described how they are carried out in the basement of a place called the White Building. After hours of beatings, groups of up to 50 blindfolded men at a time are taken to the execution site by white delivery trucks (called “meat fridges” by other prisoners) and made to stand on a metre-high platform. Here a noose is placed over their heads and they’re bundled to their deaths. Not all the hangings result in quick deaths. Some of the lighter men are still alive several minutes into the hangings, and two prison officials have the job of pulling on the bodies of those still alive to break their necks. One former detainee, Hamid (not his real name), told me how he could hear the sounds of the hangings as he and other prisoners slept on the floor of the rooms above: “There was a sound of something being pulled out – like a piece of wood, I’m not sure – and then you would hear the sound of them being strangled " https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/feb/07/saydnaya-prison-assad-slaugterhouse-amnesty-report-torture-mass-hangings Assad, yeah he is the puppet leader of Putin's client state. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 800 #122 April 12, 2017 Thankfully, Trump was able to enjoy his most beautiful chocolate cake while launching unmanned missiles to Iraq during all this. I really hope manned missiles aren't on the table with the nukes. What a mess that would be. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AlanS 1 #123 April 12, 2017 normissI guess it's a real shame then that Putin just told Tillerson to go fuck himself - meeting cancelled. There goes working with Russia. Well except Putin actually did meet with Tillerson. He was just huffing and puffing for a while, after the airstrike. Regardless, of a meeting or no meeting, hopefully this means Russia will prevent Assad from using chemical weapons in the future. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 800 #124 April 12, 2017 Standard Russian politics, nothing new. Also standard Russian politics? NOT doing the bidding of the US nor UN. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #125 April 12, 2017 They promised before, but now they will really promise. They know that otherwise the US will bomb non-descript areas and damage non-strategic real estate. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites