billvon 2,991 #26 April 13, 2017 Quote could be wrong, but the specifics of this story don't seem to be a common occurrence among groups of 7-14 year old boys in this country - I sure as hell hope not. Over a third of all sexual assaults against children in the US are committed by someone under 18. (https://www.safersociety.org/uploads/WP075-DoChildren.pdf) A few examples of teens assaulting younger kids: ============= 13-year-old boy charged in sexual assault Police: Victim is 4-year-old girl; child in good health By HOLLI DEAL BRAGG hbragg@statesboroherald.com Statesboro Police charged a 13-year-old male Saturday in a molestation incident involving a 4-year-old female, said Chief Stan York. Officers were called to East Georgia Regional Medical Center around 2:30 p.m. Saturday and spoke with a woman who told them a 13-year-old male who was "temporarily staying in her home molested her 4-year-old daughter," he said. Responding officers contacted Det. Ben Purvis, who also reported to the hospital to question the complainant and investigate the matter further, York said. After further query, Purvis arrested the teen, charging him with rape, child molestation and enticing a child for indecent purposes, he said. ============= Iowa teen, 19, who 'filmed himself sexually assulting a toddler online' receives NO prison time despite guilty plea Published: 19:43, 15 September 2016 | Updated: 22:13, 15 September 2016 An Iowa man who sexually assaulted a toddler on camera will serve no time in prison. Kraigen Grooms, 19, pleaded guilty on Monday to Engaging in a Lascivious Act with a Child according to KTVO, and was given a 10-year suspended sentence by the judge and just five years of supervised release. ============ QuotePerhaps refugees should under go psychological evaluations, and if there are issues, perhaps treatment should be a part of their financial/medical assistance. Or we should teach American boys not to sexually assault people. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sonnyblu 0 #27 April 13, 2017 jakeeQuoteI just want to understand why and how we can address the situation, What situation? The situation of this one crime? It's been addressed by local law enforcement, like any other individual crime. Ok, now comes the why? Why did this happen? jakeeIf you admit more refugees, you get more refugee criminals. Right, just like all the criminals that came from Europe back in the day. Fortunately tho for today, we have more advanced screening capabilities, and Xanax. jakeeJust like when your population grows from literally any other source, you get more criminals. But no-one's out there screening the maternity ward. What a dumb example. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sonnyblu 0 #28 April 13, 2017 mistercwood*** Great, but how can we prevent it? If there are cultural/parental issue that need be addressed through the use of mental health for refugees everyone, then that would be a good starting point. Careful, your bias is showing... No it's not. We're actually talking about refugees. If these people need mental help after witnessing the horrors of the middle-eastern lifestyle, then that need should be identified and treated upon entering this country. Unless of course you rather just ban them altogether and not have to deal with it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tkhayes 348 #29 April 14, 2017 sonnyblu***No one called for the banning of Catholic churches, which arguably has done more systemic raping than any single entity in the history of modern civilization I'm not calling for a banning. But at least the Catholic Church has received plenty of negative press for their actions that hopefully improved the situation. tkhayesIn other words, if you care about children getting raped and want institutions shut down because of children getting raped, then I would ask for consistency across all platforms where children are getting raped.... I never said anything about shutting down institutions. I want want to understand why. tkhayeswe already have a system to deal with the consequences of it - it is called the criminal justice system, which investigates, hunts down, captures and convicts the offenders. Great, but how can we prevent it? If there are cultural/parental issue that need be addressed through the use of mental health for refugees, then that would be a good starting point. These families have gone through a lot - they might need a lot more than cash and a job at some yogurt factory. No, 'you' may not be calling for a ban, but plenty of people are. So banning muslims for the actions of a few while NOT banning Catholics for the actions of a few shows show paradox, hypocrisy and bias And the 'institutions I suggest are the Catholic Church as once example and refugees/immigrants as another 'institution' Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mistercwood 287 #30 April 14, 2017 sonnyblu****** Great, but how can we prevent it? If there are cultural/parental issue that need be addressed through the use of mental health for refugees everyone, then that would be a good starting point. Careful, your bias is showing... No it's not. We're actually talking about refugees. If these people need mental help after witnessing the horrors of the middle-eastern lifestyle, then that need should be identified and treated upon entering this country. Unless of course you rather just ban them altogether and not have to deal with it. You've taken a single incident, and decided this is an indication that an entire world region's default culture is mentally scarring? I'd forgotten that you don't come here to discuss things. You come with a viewpoint set in concrete that's allegedly "self-evident", then refuse to acknowledge your question-begging assumptions.You are playing chicken with a planet - you can't dodge and planets don't blink. Act accordingly. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sonnyblu 0 #31 April 14, 2017 tkhayes No, 'you' may not be calling for a ban, but plenty of people are. So banning muslims for the actions of a few while NOT banning Catholics for the actions of a few shows show paradox, hypocrisy and bias' The reason for the proposed ban against a select few countries isn't because of widespread molestation attacks. . . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sonnyblu 0 #32 April 14, 2017 mistercwood********* Great, but how can we prevent it? If there are cultural/parental issue that need be addressed through the use of mental health for refugees everyone, then that would be a good starting point. Careful, your bias is showing... No it's not. We're actually talking about refugees. If these people need mental help after witnessing the horrors of the middle-eastern lifestyle, then that need should be identified and treated upon entering this country. Unless of course you rather just ban them altogether and not have to deal with it. You've taken a single incident, and decided this is an indication that an entire world region's default culture is mentally scarring? No, actually I didn't, but these people are obviously running away from something. I just want to know if what those kids saw back in their homelands had something to do with this attack against the 5-year old? If so, how can we help/protect against other refugees that may feel the same way? We can't do that if people are always preoccupied with "left vs. right" political bullshit. If this is just your typical case of gang rape, then I guess we'll just continue to feel helpless and ignore it as usual - "oh, that's terrible, but hey, shit happens" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil1111 1,149 #33 April 14, 2017 If children need protection from sexual exploitation and mistreatment. Catholic priests should be examined first. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_Church_sex_abuse_cases_by_country#United_States Archdiocese of Anchorage See also: Sexual abuse scandal in the Society of Jesus In 2007, the Society of Jesus made a $50 million payout to over 100 Inuit who alleged that they had been sexually abused. The settlement did not require them to admit molesting Inuit children, but accusations involved 13 or 14 priests who allegedly molested these children for 30 years.[73] In 2008, the Diocese of Fairbanks, a co-defendant in the case, filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy, claiming inability to pay the 140 plaintiffs filing claims against the diocese for alleged sexual abuse by priests or church workers during this period.[74][75][76] Archdiocese of Boston Main article: Sexual abuse scandal in the Catholic archdiocese of Boston Allegations of sexual misconduct by priests of the Archdiocese of Boston, and following revelations of a cover-up by the Archbishop of Boston, Cardinal Bernard Francis Law, became known in 2004, causing Roman Catholics in other dioceses of the United States to investigate similar situations. Cardinal Law's actions prompted public scrutiny of the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops and the steps taken in response to past and current allegations of sexual misconduct by priests. The events in the Archdiocese of Boston became a national scandal. Archdiocese of Chicago Main article: Sexual abuse scandal in the Catholic archdiocese of Chicago Daniel McCormack, a self-confessed sexually abusive priest was sentenced to five years in prison for abusing five boys (8–12 years) in 2001.[77] Diocese of Crookston Rev. Joseph Palanivel Jeyapaul was charged with molesting two teenage girls at a Catholic church in Greenbush, Minnesota, a small rural town near the Canada–United States border. The abuse occurred in 2004, and charges were filed in 2006 and amended in 2007.[78] Without facing legal punishment, Jevapaul returned to his home diocese in Ootacamund, India, where today he works in the church’s diocesan office. A Roseau County, Minnesota attorney is seeking to extradite the priest from India in a criminal case involving one of the girls.[79] The Archbishop of Madras, India (Madras is now called "Chennai") has asked Jeyapaul to return to the US to face the charges.[80] Jevapaul has said that he will not fight extradition if the US seeks it.[81] Diocese of Davenport Main article: Sexual abuse scandal in Davenport diocese On 10 October 2006, the Diocese of Davenport filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection.[82] Archdiocese of Denver In July 2008 the Archdiocese of Denver paid a settlement of $5.5 million to 18 claims of alleged sexual abuse perpetrated by two clerics between the years of 1954 and 1981.[83] Archdiocese of Dubuque Main article: Sexual abuse scandal in Dubuque archdiocese In 2006 the Archdiocese settled a number of claims of sexual abuse, and the Archbishop offered a personal apology.[84] Diocese of Fall River Main article: Sexual abuse scandal in Fall River diocese Father James Porter was a Roman Catholic priest who was convicted of molesting 28 children;[85] He admitted sexually abusing at least 100 of both sexes over a period of 30 years, starting in the 1960s.[86] Bishop Sean O'Malley settled 101 abuse claims and initiated a zero-tolerance policy against sexual abuse. He also instituted one of the first comprehensive sexual abuse policies in the Roman Catholic Church.[87] Diocese of Honolulu Main article: Sexual abuse scandal in Honolulu diocese Reverend Joseph Bukoski, III, SS.CC., Honolulu, Hawaii, a member of the Congregation of the Sacred Hearts of Jesus and Mary was canonically removed in 2003 as the pastor of Maria Lanakila Catholic Church in Lahaina by Bishop Francis X. DiLorenzo for allegations relating to sexual improprieties some 30 years earlier. Fr. Bukoski issued a written public apology to his victim on 12 November 2005. Reverend Mr. James "Ron" Gonsalves, Wailuku, Hawaii, Gonsalves the administrator of Saint Ann Roman Catholic Church in Waihee, Maui, pleaded guilty on 17 May 2006 to several counts of sexual assault on a 12-year-old male. Bishop Clarence Richard Silva has permanently withdrawn his faculties and has initiated laicization proceedings against Deacon Gonsalves with the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith. Archdiocese of Los Angeles Main article: Sexual abuse scandal in the Catholic archdiocese of Los Angeles The Archdiocese of Los Angeles agreed to pay out 60 million dollars to settle 45 lawsuits it still faces over 450 other pending cases. According to the Associated Press, 22 priests were involved in the settlement with cases going back as far as the 1930s.[88] 20 million dollars of this was paid by the insurers of the archdiocese. The main administrative office of the archdiocese is due to be sold to cover the cost of these and future lawsuits. The archdiocese will settle about 500 cases for about $600 million.[89] Diocese of Memphis The Diocese of Memphis reached a $2 million settlement with a man who was abused as a boy by Father Juan Carlos Duran, a priest with a history of sexual misconduct with juveniles in St. Louis, Panama, and Bolivia.[90] Archdiocese of Miami Main article: Sexual abuse scandal in Miami archdiocese Since 1966, the Archdiocese of Miami Insurance Programs have paid $26.1 million in settlement, legal, and counseling costs associated with sexual misconduct allegations made by minors involving priests, laity and religious brothers and sisters.[91] Eddie Lee Long (May 12, 1953 – January 15, 2017) was an American pastor who served as the senior pastor of New Birth Missionary Baptist Church, a megachurch in unincorporated DeKalb County, Georgia, from 1987 until his death in 2017. When Long started as pastor for New Birth Church, there were 300 church members, which grew to 25,000.[3] During this time, Long was a subject of a Senate investigation, concerning whether he personally profited from his church's tax-exempt status, which eventually ended without a finding of wrongdoing. Also, civil lawsuits were filed against him alleging sexual abuse of multiple underage male members of his parish. Long denied wrongdoing through his attorneys and privately settled the lawsuits out of court for undisclosed amounts. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eddie_Long Eddie Long's jet of choice for child molestation? The Gulfstream II About 1/2. Odd how the Alt-right, trump and the Christian fundamentalists seem to have missed this. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,489 #34 April 14, 2017 sonnyblu***QuoteI just want to understand why and how we can address the situation, What situation? The situation of this one crime? It's been addressed by local law enforcement, like any other individual crime. Ok, now comes the why? Why did this happen? Because they are people.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tkhayes 348 #35 April 14, 2017 sonnyblu*** No, 'you' may not be calling for a ban, but plenty of people are. So banning muslims for the actions of a few while NOT banning Catholics for the actions of a few shows show paradox, hypocrisy and bias' The reason for the proposed ban against a select few countries isn't because of widespread molestation attacks. . . Agreed, but it adds fuel to the fire and as I have stated has no basis in reality without applying a tremendous amount of bias. Just like applying a tremendous amount of bias when stating that they are all terrorists, or jihadists and are all out to kill us when creating immigration policy. It has no statistical basis in fact, but does have anecdotal value. But then completely ignores the numbers of terrorist attacks committed by white Christian Americans every year for example. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sonnyblu 0 #36 April 14, 2017 jakee ****** Quote I just want to understand why and how we can address the situation, What situation? The situation of this one crime? It's been addressed by local law enforcement, like any other individual crime. Ok, now comes the why? Why did this happen? Because they are people. So are the whopping 783 members of the alt-right Trump "brigade" that liked the Boycott Chobani Facebook page. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
croeece 0 #37 June 3, 2017 wolfriverjoe******Yahtzee. Ya, I know. This is all just a fucking game to you. If you have something with some substance to add, I'm willing to listen. Substance? You mean like the fact that the more you post, the more obvious it becomes who you really are? Who I really am? Really? Lol. . . Why is it that you've spent more time trying to decipher/attack my alter egos, rather than address their posts that exposed your lackluster emotional pleas? Never once did I ever get a straight answer out of you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
