Tuesday Afternoon Massacre

[billvon 2,991]

>7 months ago -

>This month -

Yep. Big difference there. Seven months ago we had a rational president - so he got the chance to continue his (unpopular) investigation.

[rushmc 23]

billvon

>7 months ago -

>This month -

Yep. Big difference there. Seven months ago we had a rational president - so he got the chance to continue his (unpopular) investigation.

LOFL

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[jakee 1,490]

rehmwa

So - we have this guy who's job is investigating. He investigates a couple things and pisses off both teams at different times.

Well let's be fair - the thing that people disagreed with 7 months ago wasn't the investigating but the announcements and the timings.

I don't think anyone on here wanted Comey to be fired just for investigating Clinton.

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

[kallend 2,027]

jakee

***So - we have this guy who's job is investigating. He investigates a couple things and pisses off both teams at different times.

Well let's be fair - the thing that people disagreed with 7 months ago wasn't the investigating but the announcements and the timings.

I don't think anyone on here wanted Comey to be fired just for investigating Clinton.

Didn't the GOP want him fired for not indicting HRC?

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[kallend 2,027]

Everyone knows why Comey was fired, and it has nothing whatever to do with his handling of the HRC issues. The White House giving that as the ostensible reason just confirms that it isn't the real reason.

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[gowlerk 2,193]

rushmc

***>7 months ago -

>This month -

Yep. Big difference there. Seven months ago we had a rational president - so he got the chance to continue his (unpopular) investigation.

LOFL

What really happened is Putin allowed Trump to take his cock out of his mouth long enough to tell a few more lies.

Always remember the brave children who died defending your right to bear arms. Freedom is not free.

[rehmwa 2]

it was worth the comment just to see the responses

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Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants

[SkyDekker 1,465]

lol.

have to say I expected a little stronger come back from you.

[jakee 1,490]

rehmwa

it was worth the comment just to see the responses

Of course. Everyone likes to see rational, reasonable answers

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

[rehmwa 2]

jakee

***it was worth the comment just to see the responses

Of course. Everyone likes to see rational, reasonable answers
or:

1 - decent rehash from one perspective ending a false assumption of my comment's intent
2 - a fair position statement applicable to many with a personal opinion assumed for others
3 - and 3 trash comments we can always expect

in all, it was a decent set to me just being flip and killing time

(I thought your comment really was a very fair one and the most productive of the bunch)

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Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants

[DanG 1]

Well now I want to know which comment mine was!

- Dan G

[rehmwa 2]

crap, I'm sorry, I didn't include yours.

How about "and another one that pretty closely resembles mine with a softer spin on one party that doesn't include the words cock holster or the like"

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Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants

[airdvr 210]

kallend

Everyone knows why Comey was fired, and it has nothing whatever to do with his handling of the HRC issues. The White House giving that as the ostensible reason just confirms that it isn't the real reason.

Although we weren't here in 1995 I'll wager it didn't bother you nearly as much when Bill Clinton sacked Director Sessions, a Reagan appointee.

Please don't dent the planet.

Destinations by Roxanne

[headoverheels 333]

airdvr

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Everyone knows why Comey was fired, and it has nothing whatever to do with his handling of the HRC issues. The White House giving that as the ostensible reason just confirms that it isn't the real reason.

Although we weren't here in 1995 I'll wager it didn't bother you nearly as much when Bill Clinton sacked Director Sessions, a Reagan appointee.

Well, if we had sworn testimony of over 100 FBI agents saying that Comey had made numerous and severe ethical failures, and there was a 161 page report documenting such, the cases might be similar.

[jakee 1,490]

airdvr

Although we weren't here in 1995 I'll wager it didn't bother you nearly as much when Bill Clinton sacked Director Sessions, a Reagan appointee.

And why would it? Clinton fired an FBI Director who was the subject of an investigation into ethics violations and abuses of power. Trump fired an FBI Director who was investigating his campaign and his administration for ethics violations and abuses of power.

Simple question; do you think the two firings are the same, or do you think they are different?

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

[airdvr 210]

jakee

***Although we weren't here in 1995 I'll wager it didn't bother you nearly as much when Bill Clinton sacked Director Sessions, a Reagan appointee.

And why would it? Clinton fired an FBI Director who was the subject of an investigation into ethics violations and abuses of power. Trump fired an FBI Director who was investigating his campaign and his administration for ethics violations and abuses of power.

Simple question; do you think the two firings are the same, or do you think they are different?

At this point what does it matter? Looks like investigating things in DC is a political death certificate.

Please don't dent the planet.

Destinations by Roxanne

[jakee 1,490]

airdvr

At this point what does it matter?

Is that as close as you're going to get to acknowledging that your question was misleading and irrelevant? Because it's not too late to do the honest and classy thing, and actually say it.

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Looks like investigating things in DC is a political death certificate.

While Trump is in charge, yeah. That's pretty much the premise of the thread.

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

[Phil1111 1,149]

jakee

***At this point what does it matter?

Is that as close as you're going to get to acknowledging that your question was misleading and irrelevant? Because it's not too late to do the honest and classy thing, and actually say it.

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Looks like investigating things in DC is a political death certificate.

While Trump is in charge, yeah. That's pretty much the premise of the thread.

I would put my faith in the FBI. Even in the face of a direct order. IMO there would be agents who would act to investigate sub rosa to get the truth. Same for CIA.

[ryoder 1,590]

Nothing like skewering two organizations (OK, one organization and one disorganization) with a single image.

"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones.

[tkhayes 348]

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Simple question; do you think the two firings are the same, or do you think they are different?

they are absolutely different. Clinton fired his because the DIRECTOR was the subject of investigation, not Clinton. And even after the fact, the allegations of that investigation appeared to have plenty of merit, but no charges ever came of it.

It would appear more and more that Trump has fired Comey hoping to damage/upset/derail/assist the investigation of himself.

And with all the talk about what a shitty disorganized mess the FBI is (NBC interview yesterday), as Trump seems to claim, I expect that the insiders and lifers at the FBI will be more than happy to further investigate Trump, and quite possibly leak some more damning evidence.

payback is a bitch

[rushmc 23]

tkhayes

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Simple question; do you think the two firings are the same, or do you think they are different?

they are absolutely different. Clinton fired his because the DIRECTOR was the subject of investigation, not Clinton. And even after the fact, the allegations of that investigation appeared to have plenty of merit, but no charges ever came of it.

It would appear more and more that Trump has fired Comey hoping to damage/upset/derail/assist the investigation of himself.

And with all the talk about what a shitty disorganized mess the FBI is (NBC interview yesterday), as Trump seems to claim, I expect that the insiders and lifers at the FBI will be more than happy to further investigate Trump, and quite possibly leak some more damning evidence.

payback is a bitch

And now we know, thanks to Grassley and Feinstein, that Trump is not under investigation either.

So what's your point?????

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[tkhayes 348]

"not personally under investigation" I believe the terms and statements were, which were not actually stated by those people if you bother to read the actual conversations.

Manafort IS under investigation. Flynn IS under investigation. Russian meddling in the election is under investigation. The links to the campaign and Russia businesses is under investigation, the money is, the businesses, the meetings, the trips, the conversations are all under investigation.

Investigations are systems of researching situations and actions, not people....but what the people did. And that MOST CERTAINLY 100% is under investigation. And it may lead to Trump and it may not, but is MOST CERTAINLY is still being investigated and MOST CERTAINLY is about the Trump campaign, and perhaps not (yet) about Donald Trump 'personally'.

Trump just hired (2 days ago) an outside law firm to handle this.....hmmm, the WH legals are not capable of defending the president? Or does he need outside independent counsel in case he no longer has access to WH attorneys in the near future?

So go ahead and feel vindicated if you choose. Trump doesn't actually have to commit a crime to be impeached. He just has to be linked to enough dirt to demonstrate some level of disrespect or shadiness for the office that he holds.

That's in the history books and the Constitution as well.

I have to school you on how the internals of your own country work (again)

Chris Christie is NOT under investigation either. But his staff, directly beneath him are going to jail and his career is over.

So what's your point?????

[rushmc 23]

Ahhhh

the wet dream of impeachment

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[tkhayes 348]

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/trump-fbi-skeptics-james-comey-investigation-1.4111522

touche...others that say Comey would never have told the President that he was or was not under investigation.

[SkyDekker 1,465]

Rush, why do you think Comey was fired?