Tuesday Afternoon Massacre

[normiss 801]

Says the Pot.

[DJL 235]

normiss

Says the Pot.

Rush! What crazy is how much effort you're putting into this! Let the new cycle complete and then prove everyone wrong.

"I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher

[billvon 2,991]

>Do you think Trump realizes how far the Russians are into him?

I think Trump thinks the Russians are less into him than they really are, and the Russians think they are more into him than they really are. He's easy to manipulate, and I can easily see a master statesman exerting a lot of control over Trump while making him think they were all his own excellent, really big league ideas. At the same time, while Trump has bent over backwards for Russia, it could all stop tomorrow if (for example) an even more expert statesman from India convinces him that Russia is going to steal Mar-a-Lago. They will still have the leverage of all that money over him, but they will be loathe to use that as a lever, because it's the last lever they will have.

>I have to wonder what kinds of "goodies" the FSB has on Trump.

Well, they had the golden shower stuff, but now that that has leaked (no pun intended) that has lost its power over him. In many ways that makes leakers America's best friends - the leak may hurt for a short time, but it removes a lever that a foreign government has over our president.

[billvon 2,991]

>The stock market is doing quite well....Huge and Bigly are two words that come to mind.

From Marketwatch:
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Nasdaq suffers biggest daily drop in nearly a year, as fear gauge soars on Trump worries

Published: May 17, 2017 4:59 p.m. ET

Wall Street’s fear index spikes the most since Brexit

The Nasdaq on Wednesday saw its worst one-day decline since the day after U.K.’s vote to exit from the European Union rattled markets, as turmoil in Washington cast doubt on President Donald Trump’s pro-growth agenda that had helped to drive stocks to records.

Tuesday’s selloff in the technology-laden benchmark, which has represented enthusiasm for assets perceived as risky, highlighted a broad market unraveling across much of the globe.

The S&P 500 index SPX, -1.82% and the Dow Jones Industrial Average DJIA, -1.78% had their worst sessions since Sept. 9.

Political uncertainty sent the S&P 500 index down 43.64 points, or 1.8%, to 2,357.03. Financials, which had been among the biggest beneficiaries of Trump’s market-friendly agenda, were the biggest losers, down more than 3%.
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On the plus side, republicans can always blame it on Obama, Clinton, the democrats or the media.

[Phil1111 1,149]

Special Council Appointed

Robert Mueller appointed special counsel to oversee probe into Russia's interference in 2016 election

The United States Department of Justice has announced that a special counsel has been appointed to investigate Russian interference into last year's presidential election.

Former FBI Director Robert Mueller has been assigned by Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein to "oversee the previously-confirmed FBI investigation of Russian government efforts to influence the 2016 presidential election, and related matters."

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/robert-mueller-appointed-special-counsel-oversee-probe-russias/story?id=47472673

[rushmc 23]

Phil1111

Special Council Appointed

Robert Mueller appointed special counsel to oversee probe into Russia's interference in 2016 election

The United States Department of Justice has announced that a special counsel has been appointed to investigate Russian interference into last year's presidential election.

Former FBI Director Robert Mueller has been assigned by Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein to "oversee the previously-confirmed FBI investigation of Russian government efforts to influence the 2016 presidential election, and related matters."

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/robert-mueller-appointed-special-counsel-oversee-probe-russias/story?id=47472673

I predict he will find nothing and the left will go apoplictic.

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[billvon 2,991]

>I predict he will find nothing and the left will go apoplictic.

I promise you that no one here will go apoplictic.

I predict he will find a few things, at which point you will:

1) deny
2) say "well, duh, but they're NOTHING!"
3) say "Whatever. Clinton did it first."

[Phil1111 1,149]

rushmc

***Special Council Appointed

Robert Mueller appointed special counsel to oversee probe into Russia's interference in 2016 election

The United States Department of Justice has announced that a special counsel has been appointed to investigate Russian interference into last year's presidential election.

Former FBI Director Robert Mueller has been assigned by Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein to "oversee the previously-confirmed FBI investigation of Russian government efforts to influence the 2016 presidential election, and related matters."

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/robert-mueller-appointed-special-counsel-oversee-probe-russias/story?id=47472673

I predict he will find nothing and the left will go apoplictic.

NEVER go to Vegas.

[Stumpy 284]

It's cute when he tries long words.

Never try to eat more than you can lift

[rushmc 23]

billvon

>I predict he will find nothing and the left will go apoplictic.

I promise you that no one here will go apoplictic.

I predict he will find a few things, at which point you will:

1) deny
2) say "well, duh, but they're NOTHING!"
3) say "Whatever. Clinton did it first."

Sorry to point this out but, you are already there.

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[rushmc 23]

Phil1111

******Special Council Appointed

Robert Mueller appointed special counsel to oversee probe into Russia's interference in 2016 election

The United States Department of Justice has announced that a special counsel has been appointed to investigate Russian interference into last year's presidential election.

Former FBI Director Robert Mueller has been assigned by Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein to "oversee the previously-confirmed FBI investigation of Russian government efforts to influence the 2016 presidential election, and related matters."

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/robert-mueller-appointed-special-counsel-oversee-probe-russias/story?id=47472673

I predict he will find nothing and the left will go apoplictic.

NEVER go to Vegas.

Ya. You are already there too...

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[RonD1120 62]

wolfriverjoe

***>Well, it was more likely because he was baited into it by the Russians.

Good possibility. And he does owe them.

Honest question:

Do you think Trump realizes how far the Russians are into him?



Did you all forget that BHO allowed Russian soldiers to train in the U.S.?

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/05/17/us-russian-soldiers-train-together-in-colorado.html

Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

[billvon 2,991]

>Did you all forget that BHO allowed Russian soldiers to train in the U.S.?

Nope. We even let them train at Perris. There are about a dozen Russian military who are regulars at the bigway camps there. And there are other foreign militaries who regularly use the military training facilities there. Gives us a good chance to learn how their military paratroopers operate.

[yoink 321]

rushmc

***>I predict he will find nothing and the left will go apoplictic.

I promise you that no one here will go apoplictic.

I predict he will find a few things, at which point you will:

1) deny
2) say "well, duh, but they're NOTHING!"
3) say "Whatever. Clinton did it first."

Sorry to point this out but, you are already there.


Mods - Can we just ban this troll?

His replies don't even make sense anymore. They're specifically designed to get a rise from the poster which is the definition of trolling.

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Specific Forum Policies

No Personal attacks, Flaming and Trolling.

Personal attacks on another user are a great way to earn some time off, as is posting inflammatory material specifically to provoke a negative response from someone (aka trolling). If you are unclear about what a 'troll' is, a description can be found here.

[wolfriverjoe 1,523]

RonD1120

******>Well, it was more likely because he was baited into it by the Russians.

Good possibility. And he does owe them.

Honest question:

Do you think Trump realizes how far the Russians are into him?



Did you all forget that BHO allowed Russian soldiers to train in the U.S.?

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/05/17/us-russian-soldiers-train-together-in-colorado.html

Did you actually read the article you linked?

Joint exercises in Colorado is a long, long way from giving away intelligence.

"There are NO situations which do not call for a French Maid outfit." Lucky McSwervy

"~ya don't GET old by being weak & stupid!" - Airtwardo

[normiss 801]

Multiple rules violations most of his posts.
Waste of bandwidth is the usual one.
If we all went back to ignoring him, problem goes away.

[gowlerk 2,193]

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If we all went back to ignoring him, problem goes away.

I try to mostly do that. And I never argue with him. I just shoot the odd arrow at his balloon full of gas.

Always remember the brave children who died defending your right to bear arms. Freedom is not free.

[ryoder 1,590]

wolfriverjoe

***
Did you all forget that BHO allowed Russian soldiers to train in the U.S.?

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/05/17/us-russian-soldiers-train-together-in-colorado.html

Did you actually read the article you linked?

Joint exercises in Colorado is a long, long way from giving away intelligence.

They're here???
Oh, shit! Gotta go meet up with friends on higher ground!
WOLVERINES!!!!

"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones.

[wolfriverjoe 1,523]

ryoder

******
Did you all forget that BHO allowed Russian soldiers to train in the U.S.?

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/05/17/us-russian-soldiers-train-together-in-colorado.html

Did you actually read the article you linked?

Joint exercises in Colorado is a long, long way from giving away intelligence.

They're here???
Oh, shit! Gotta go meet up with friends on higher ground!
WOLVERINES!!!!

Sigh...

Did you read the article?

It's from 2012.

It's more than just a little bit late to run to "higher ground."

"There are NO situations which do not call for a French Maid outfit." Lucky McSwervy

"~ya don't GET old by being weak & stupid!" - Airtwardo

[ryoder 1,590]

Well, we've been fighting them off for four years, and we really could use some help.

"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones.

[rushmc 23]

normiss

Multiple rules violations most of his posts.
Waste of bandwidth is the usual one.
If we all went back to ignoring him, problem goes away.

Please do.

Much more peaceful...

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[rushmc 23]

yoink

******>I predict he will find nothing and the left will go apoplictic.

I promise you that no one here will go apoplictic.

I predict he will find a few things, at which point you will:

1) deny
2) say "well, duh, but they're NOTHING!"
3) say "Whatever. Clinton did it first."

Sorry to point this out but, you are already there.


Mods - Can we just ban this troll?

His replies don't even make sense anymore. They're specifically designed to get a rise from the poster which is the definition of trolling.

Quote

Specific Forum Policies

No Personal attacks, Flaming and Trolling.

Personal attacks on another user are a great way to earn some time off, as is posting inflammatory material specifically to provoke a negative response from someone (aka trolling). If you are unclear about what a 'troll' is, a description can be found here.

So now I'll ask you. What crimes did Trump commit? What law did he break?. To this point no one has answered that question. Not here, not on TV, not on any blog I have read.

It appears to me the only trolls are the one claiming that Trump should be impeached! And none of them can explain the law that he broke.

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[rushmc 23]

DJL

***Says the Pot.

Rush! What crazy is how much effort you're putting into this! Let the new cycle complete and then prove everyone wrong.

I am willing to wait.

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[yoink 321]

rushmc

So now I'll ask you. What crimes did Trump commit? What law did he break?. To this point no one has answered that question. Not here, not on TV, not on any blog I have read.

It appears to me the only trolls are the one claiming that Trump should be impeached! And none of them can explain the law that he broke.

I have never called for his impeachment.

I do think there should be a number of investigations based upon his documented behavior and some of the details that are now in the public realm in just the same way that you called for investigations into the Hillary emails. I think that Trump doesn't understand the details of the laws he is obligated to follow any more than you or I do and therefore it's likely he's making mistakes.
Those investigations may or may not lead to an impeachment depending upon what they find (or don't).

As you say - all we have to go on are accusations at this point. (actually you don't say this, but you should... I'm assuming that's what 'LOL!' means.)
However, saying something didn't happen based on those accusations is just as ridiculous as saying it did. The knee jerk defense to every situation only shows that you haven't even bothered to consider a position.
The only correct answer is 'Ok - an accusation has been made. So we need to look into it, but personally I think it's garbage because x, y & z.' and to hold off on judgement until that happens.


All of that is separate from what I have said about Trump. That he's a narcissist who does not have the political or oratory skill, experience or temperament to be playing games on the highest stage.
I do not want a leader, Republican or Democrat, who can be manipulated as easily as Trump can. Him responding in anger directly to tweets, or using public speaking engagements to whine about how difficult his life is are exactly the proofs I needs to make that judgement.

You see - this is the way discussion works. If you ask a serious question and take the response seriously, then people will take you more seriously in return.
If you continually respond LOL!, But Obama... or any number of your other typical nonsensical off topic replies then people will continue to ignore or ridicule you.

I shouldn't have to educate you on this shit. It's communication 101.

[billvon 2,991]

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I have never called for his impeachment.

I do think there should be a number of investigations based upon his documented behavior and some of the details that are now in the public realm in just the same way that you called for investigations into the Hillary emails. I think that Trump doesn't understand the details of the laws he is obligated to follow any more than you or I do and therefore it's likely he's making mistakes.

Agreed. Appoint the special prosecutor, make sure he is insulated from the sort of pressures that were put on Comey and let him do his job. Then we can talk about impeachment (or not.)