Paris Accord: The King Speaks at 3PM

[DJL 235]

Oh what will The King decide? What we do know is that it doesn't matter what he knows about the agreement or the environment, this is a matter of popularity. On one had there's Rex Tillerson who thinks we should stay in, on the other hand there's the anti-environment (GW deniers) who want us out. This sets the stage for the moments that Trump loves the most, the world waiting with bated breath for him to speak. I'm sure we'll hear a little about his great campaign and what he's done for the country and at the end the deciding factor regarding the words coming out of his mouth are what will give the best ending to the show he's created.

Tune in to the Rose Garden, today 3PM. {Dramatic music}

Rush, #4 is for you.

"I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher

[AlanS 1]

I expect Trump to remove us from the Paris Accords. This will only be temporary until then next administration comes along.

CO2 build-up in the atmosphere is a long-term problem that will take 100 or more years to play out. If the US is out of some accord for 8 years, that is unfortunate, but we as individuals can still make the choices we want.

In my personal opinion anyway we are doing the wrong things to limit carbon emissions. While more wind farms are nice idea, it is just play around at the edges of the problem. If we are serious we need to replace all the coal power plants with 3rd generation nuclear power plants.

That and give incentives for people to drive hybrid/electric cars and put solar panels on roof, with a Tesla-like power wall for home level storage of power.

[DJL 235]

Here's a good writeup on those for and against it who have Trump's ear:
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/05/31/climate/trumps-is-hearing-plenty-on-the-paris-climate-agreement-who-will-have-the-last-word.html

"I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher

[rushmc 23]

The King?????

WTF is wrong with you?

Sheesh.......

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[DJL 235]

rushmc

The King?????

WTF is wrong with you?

Sheesh.......

So let it be written, so let it be done.

"I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher

[rushmc 23]

DJL

***The King?????

WTF is wrong with you?

Sheesh.......

So let it be written, so let it be done.

Hmmm
The question then still remains!

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[kallend 2,027]

rushmc

The King?????

WTF is wrong with you?

Sheesh.......

I agree with Marc.

The guy with no clothes is the EMPEROR.

...

The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[DJL 235]

Looks like the Emperor pulled out. Too bad his father didn't do the same.

"I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher

[yoink 321]

Out is the obvious answer.

An out gives Trump:

1) Center stage for posturing and grandstanding
2) The ability to say 'fuck you, you can't tell me what I should be doing' to the international community
3) An easy win on fulfilling one of his campaign promises which he can point to in the weeks to come
4) And doesn't require any understanding of the science or a reliance on people who understand more than he does

all of which appeal to his vanity.

Staying in on the other hand doesn't really give him anything. He slightly mollifies a bunch of people who don't like him and aren't going to vote for him anyway, while simultaneously irritating the supporters he does have.
Keeping the status quo is a far less sexy statement than bucking the trend.

So we'll be out because it satisfies Trump's ego and need for image much more than any real facts, discussion or thought might do.
Get used to that - it's the way policy will be made for the next few years.

[DJL 235]

Counting down.
https://www.tickcounter.com/countdown/1611151200000/america-new_york/yodhms/FFFFFF3B5998000000FF0000/Time_Until_Trump_Leaves_Office

"I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher

[tkhayes 348]

he does not even care what his own decision will be, he just wants to see what his ratings will be for the appearance, and whether or not his family sells more real estate or clothing because of it.

[normiss 801]

Support for Trump’s impeachment rises to 43%, or according to Betsy DeVos, over half of American.

[yoink 321]

The lateness in actually giving the rose-garden speech is another tiresome and predictable control-exercise.

[melch 1]

Sad

[yoink 321]

It's hilarious how obvious the difference between the style of Trump's speech writers and his ad-libbing is.

[normiss 801]

It validates his obsession with his own idiocy.

[DJL 235]

normiss

Support for Trump’s impeachment rises to 43%, or according to Betsy DeVos, over half of American.

Let's not move too quickly on the Betsy Devos jokes, I'm still getting mileage on the thing about bears and guns in school. I wonder if she just panicked and thought "um...we need the right to bear arms in schools....um... OOH BEARS!!"

"I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher

[jakee 1,490]

rushmc

******The King?????

WTF is wrong with you?

Sheesh.......

So let it be written, so let it be done.
Hmmm
The question then still remains!

Ask the people he was just visiting

Trumps behaving 'like a royal family', says German foreign minister

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

[yoink 321]

New game for future Trump speeches.

Take a drink every time he says 'Believe me,...'

[normiss 801]

Am departing presidential councils. Climate change is real. Leaving Paris is not good for America or the world. -Elon Musk

[yoink 321]

That just comes across as being a whiny little bitch.

The answer to the president not taking your advice isn't to quit in a huff. You keep trying and while you might not make a big difference you might make some... THAT is what a leader does.

[normiss 801]

I have yet to see Trump do anything as being describable as a leader.

[quade 4]

I'm not a huge fan of this decision, but treaties are one of the powers granted to the President by the Constitution.

Trump has pulled a LOT of bullshit, but strangely this is not something I can -legally- quibble over.

quade -
The World's Most Boring Skydiver

[jakee 1,490]

yoink

That just comes across as being a whiny little bitch.

Why? He said he would do it, and he did it. He's better at sticking to his word than Trump is.

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The answer to the president not taking your advice isn't to quit in a huff.

Why not? If it gets to the point where all your presence is doing is adding credibility to a politician who fundamentally disagrees with you on the issues you hold most dear and who will never listen to you, why would you stay?

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

[GeorgiaDon 362]

quade

I'm not a huge fan of this decision, but treaties are one of the powers granted to the President by the Constitution.

Trump has pulled a LOT of bullshit, but strangely this is not something I can -legally- quibble over.

I don't think the issue is the legal authority to make the decision. Rather, leaving aside for the moment the question of whether it is the right decision based on the science, it is as blunt a declaration as one could imagine that the word of the US is worth nothing. The US is a completely undependable partner, where every agreement is fair game to be torn up after the next election. The US is a liar. What country will invest years in negotiating any agreement about anything if they know that the word of the USA is worthless? After this (and the TPP) no-one will trust the US to keep their word about anything.

Don

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