Here is a reason the Man Made Global Warming Crowd needs to move so fast.

[rushmc 23]

Regional weather yet again becomes the siren cry of the climate alarmists.

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[rushmc 23]

You still avoid links
why is that?

BTW
Which Scott Waldman do you copy in your post?

https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=By+Scott+Waldman+&spf=1500905974253

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[billvon 2,997]

>You still avoid links

Because people post links with no associated explanation and they are effectively worthless. So I'm not going to do that.

If you care about the source, read the quoted text - I always include an attribution that shows the source of the material. If you want to see the original, ask a friend of yours who understands Google how to find the link.

[rushmc 23]

billvon

>You still avoid links

Because people post links with no associated explanation and they are effectively worthless. So I'm not going to do that.

If you care about the source, read the quoted text - I always include an attribution that shows the source of the material. If you want to see the original, ask a friend of yours who understands Google how to find the link.

I used Google and I posted you a link so I looked.

It is probably from Desmog again......

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[kallend 2,027]

rushmc

Regional weather yet again becomes the siren cry of the climate alarmists.

Having that reading comprehension problem AGAIN?

"Global temperatures this year have been 1.64 degrees Fahrenheit above...."

"High temperatures, like those occurring now, are linked to rising CO2 levels, said Pieter Tans, lead scientist at NOAA's Global Greenhouse Gas Reference Network..."

"Heat spiked in spots across the globe...."

"Sea ice in both the Arctic and Antarctic...." (Explanation for Marc - the Arctic and Antarctic are at opposite ends of the Earth, not a single region. In addition, Antarctica itself is not a region, it is a complete continent.

...

The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[billvon 2,997]

Here's the right way to deal with climate change deniers - ignore them.

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UK bypasses Donald Trump to discuss climate change with US city mayors directly

Claire Perry, the Climate Change Minister, says British Government is now speaking to 'other players' in US about how to fight global warming

Ian Johnston
Tuesday 25 July 2017 14:21 BST

The UK has started bypassing Donald Trump over climate change, talking directly to city mayors and other officials committed to trying to reduce greenhouse gas emissions, the new Climate Change Minister has revealed.

Claire Perry, who was appointed to the post after the general election last month, said that British ministers had not “missed an opportunity” to tell the US President that they were disappointed he had decided to withdraw from the Paris Agreement on climate change, the news service Bloomberg reported.

She said she had been speaking to “other players” in the US, including the mayor of Houston, Sylvester Turner, who visited the UK last week.

Ms Perry suggested the UK could steal a march on the US economy because of its leadership role in trying to limit global warming, as the world shifts to a low-carbon economy.

“The UK is ranked third in the world in tackling climate change,” she said.

“I think we need to exploit and take that leadership position because we can change the world doing this and we can also generate highly productive jobs.

“I look at this and see it’s the way the world is going, so it’s not just about British businesses, it’s about global mega-trends, so how do we seize that opportunity to decarbonise our own economy and help other countries.”

Mr Turner is a co-chair of Climate Mayors, a group of 331 leading local politicians who have pledged to work to ensure the US meeting the Paris Agreement’s targets, despite the White House’s opposition.

Speaking in Miami in June, the Houston mayor said: “As the energy capital of the world, it's our responsibility to find sustainable ways to power the future.

“By investing in green power, improving building efficiency, and revitalising our green spaces, Houston is proof that large industrial cities can act on climate and maintain a robust, growing economy.”
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[kallend 2,027]

Draft of the government scientists' climate change report:

www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/08/07/climate/document-Draft-of-the-Climate-Science-Special-Report.html

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[winsor 236]

kallend

Draft of the government scientists' climate change report:

www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/08/07/climate/document-Draft-of-the-Climate-Science-Special-Report.html

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/erik-wemple/wp/2017/08/09/new-york-times-guilty-of-large-screw-up-on-climate-change-story/?utm_term=.0cdba58482c9

[kallend 2,027]

And from the American Meteorological Society:

The State of the Climate.

www.ametsoc.net/sotc2016/StateoftheClimate2016_lowres.pdf

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[gowlerk 2,199]

kallend

And from the American Meteorological Society:

The State of the Climate.

www.ametsoc.net/sotc2016/StateoftheClimate2016_lowres.pdf

Hmmm.....298 page .pdf file. Hey Marc, after you read it get back to us. See you in a couple years!

Always remember the brave children who died defending your right to bear arms. Freedom is not free.

[rushmc 23]

More lying by the alarmists caught

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2017/08/10/us-climate-report-edits-out-highly-embarrassing-section/

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[kallend 2,027]

Is wattsup the best you can come up with?

Get real.

...

The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[Lawndarter 3]

rushmc

More lying by the alarmists caught

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2017/08/10/us-climate-report-edits-out-highly-embarrassing-section/

Have you not figured out that no one will take anything from that website seriously, ever?

[wolfriverjoe 1,523]

Lawndarter

***More lying by the alarmists caught

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2017/08/10/us-climate-report-edits-out-highly-embarrassing-section/

Have you not figured out that no one with a reasonable level of intelligence and ability to think critically will take anything from that website seriously, ever?

FIFY
The level of gullibility among the citizenry is depressing.

After all, there are people who think Trump is a good man and a good president.

"There are NO situations which do not call for a French Maid outfit." Lucky McSwervy

"~ya don't GET old by being weak & stupid!" - Airtwardo

[SkyDekker 1,465]

Lawndarter

***More lying by the alarmists caught

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2017/08/10/us-climate-report-edits-out-highly-embarrassing-section/

Have you not figured out that no one will take anything from that website seriously, ever?

Doesn't matter, the same people who read that think Trump won the popular vote and are fine with the idea of postponing the 2020 election.

[JerryBaumchen 1,365]

Hi Dekker,

Quote

the same people who read that think Trump won the popular vote and are fine with the idea of postponing the 2020 election.

And if Trump were to instigate Martial Law to postpone those elections, they would support that also.

Jerry Baumchen

[billvon 2,997]

A big wildfire is burning out of control again. Not really news any more, but what's notable is that this time it's in . . . Greenland. And not only is this unusual fire burning hundreds of acres of land, it is dropping black soot all over the glaciers near the fire itself. And black soot, of course, absorbs more energy than ice.

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For the past two weeks, an unusual amount of wildfires have been springing up in the normally damp bogs of peat and other vegetation along the western edge of the ice sheet.

While no one has been able to locate Greenland's historical wildfire records, if such things exist, satellite data from recent years show a dramatic increase in fire activity starting in 2015, and this year's wildfire season has already more than doubled what was observed two years ago.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/ericmack/2017/08/10/greenland-wildfire-ice-sheet-climate/#4db0bc3f64a5
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[fasted3 0]

Yep, and it's raining in Texas as predicted. Note, this is the biggest rain event the weather service has ever predicted. Odd how many things are happening now that never happened before.

I don't use climate change or global warming since the atmosphere is mostly invisible and warming is too. I say planet change, and on a scale obvious to everyone. So much of the planet has been changed by humans in just the last 100 years why doubt that the invisible stuff has changed too? If there is doubt, check the measured changes in co2, methane, and other gases. Check what is happening to the oceans. This is our doing, and it's not getting better.

But what do I know?

[DirtyChai 0]

fasted3

Yep, and it's raining in Texas as predicted. Note, this is the biggest rain event the weather service has ever predicted.

In 1979, Tropical storm Claudette dumped 43 inches of rain on Alvin Texas in just 24 hours. Harvey has come nowhere close to that. So far, a few areas have reported 24 inches in 24 hours, while others have reported 26 inches in 48 hours.

fasted3

Odd how many things are happening now that never happened before.

Slow moving hurricanes are nothing new. Harvey has stalled because of a high pressure ridge, no AGW needed.

[billvon 2,997]

>In 1979, Tropical storm Claudette dumped 43 inches of rain on Alvin Texas in just 24
>hours. Harvey has come nowhere close to that. So far, a few areas have reported 24
>inches in 24 hours, while others have reported 26 inches in 48 hours.

From WaPo:

"The National Weather Service Weather Prediction Center is calling for an additional 15 to 25 inches of rain over the middle and upper Texas coast, including the Houston area, during the next several days. The National Hurricane Center said isolated storm rainfall totals could reach 50 inches, which would rival some of the most extreme rain events in U.S. history and break the state rainfall record in Texas."

[JerryBaumchen 1,365]

Hi Dirty,

Quote

In 1979, Tropical storm Claudette dumped 43 inches of rain on Alvin Texas in just 24 hours.

There also was a total eclipse that year here in the US.

Hmmmmmmmmm,



Jerry Baumchen

PS) Hey rushmc, What do you think?

[DirtyChai 0]

billvon

>In 1979, Tropical storm Claudette dumped 43 inches of rain on Alvin Texas in just 24
>hours. Harvey has come nowhere close to that. So far, a few areas have reported 24
>inches in 24 hours, while others have reported 26 inches in 48 hours.

From WaPo:

"The National Weather Service Weather Prediction Center is calling for an additional 15 to 25 inches of rain over the middle and upper Texas coast, including the Houston area, during the next several days. The National Hurricane Center said isolated storm rainfall totals could reach 50 inches, which would rival some of the most extreme rain events in U.S. history and break the state rainfall record in Texas."

Right. The current record is from 1978 when Amelia dropped 48 inches in just 2 days. When this is over, it will have taken Harvey 5-7 days to reach those same levels.

Again, the issue here is not so much AGW as it is bad timing with high pressure systems that have stalled Harvey over Texas, allowing it to pick up even more moisture from the gulf and dump it on the Houston area repeatedly.

[normiss 801]

It's amazing how many scientists we have here that disagree with the real scientists that have spent years on the issue of global warming.

[DirtyChai 0]

normiss

It's amazing how many scientists we have here that disagree with the real scientists that have spent years on the issue of global warming.

Harvey formed during the peak of hurricane season, in a hurricane hot spot. It would've formed regardless of climate change, and there is no real scientist on the face of the planet that would try convincing you otherwise.

However, they would then break it all down and try to determine how climate change may have intensified the effects of this hurricane.

For example, higher sea levels could cause more damage during a storm surge.

Warmer than usual temps in the gulf might explain why Harvey actually strengthened as it approached landfall, which is relatively unusual. Higher wind speeds = more damage.

However, when it comes to the amount of rainfall for this particular storm, any meteorologist will tell you that it has more to do with the current high pressure systems in that region than it does with climate change. Without that pressure, Harvey would've most likely continued northward, dissipating over the midwest/southeast.

Unfortunately tho, this type of "over-analysis" isn't convenient enough for those who habitually limit themselves to 140 characters or less.

[Phil1111 1,149]

DirtyChai

***It's amazing how many scientists we have here that disagree with the real scientists that have spent years on the issue of global warming.

Harvey formed during the peak of hurricane season, in a hurricane hot spot. It would've formed regardless of climate change, and there is no real scientist on the face of the planet that would try convincing you otherwise.

However, they would then break it all down and try to determine how climate change may have intensified the effects of this hurricane.

For example, higher sea levels could cause more damage during a storm surge.

Warmer than usual temps in the gulf might explain why Harvey actually strengthened as it approached landfall, which is relatively unusual. Higher wind speeds = more damage.

However, when it comes to the amount of rainfall for this particular storm, any meteorologist will tell you that it has more to do with the current high pressure systems in that region than it does with climate change. Without that pressure, Harvey would've most likely continued northward, dissipating over the midwest/southeast.

Unfortunately tho, this type of "over-analysis" isn't convenient enough for those who habitually limit themselves to 140 characters or less.


Surface temps:
http://www.aoml.noaa.gov/phod/dataphod1/work/HHP/NEW/2017239ca.jpg


Track:
http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/refresh/graphics_at4+shtml/152721.shtml?radii