SkyDekker 1,465 #126 September 1, 2017 I think this story says so much more about you than about monetary influence on science. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jclalor 12 #127 September 1, 2017 You would have made a great Moonie. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,997 #128 September 1, 2017 >You would have made a great Moonie. Go after the topic, not the person. Your one warning. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 2,198 #129 September 1, 2017 QuoteConsidering Elon and SpaceX are currently showing them up left and right and eating their lunch, You seem to look up to Mr. Musk as a real leader. Have you taken any time to read about his position on climate change?Always remember the brave children who died defending your right to bear arms. Freedom is not free. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stumpy 284 #130 September 1, 2017 IagoConsidering it's been happening for centuries and we would have to compete with the gigantic fusion bomb in the sky Once again, some revision would do you good.Never try to eat more than you can lift Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #131 September 2, 2017 jclalorYou would have made a great Moonie. Predicatable allarmist cum shot"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 801 #132 September 2, 2017 I never realized you were gay! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 2,198 #133 September 2, 2017 You are going to go with no. But the acknowledged geniuses of science are going with yes. Can you justify yourself with anything more than " that's how I feel "?Always remember the brave children who died defending your right to bear arms. Freedom is not free. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #134 September 2, 2017 normiss I never realized you were gay! I did not know you are a homophob"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 2,198 #135 September 2, 2017 So far you have backed up your position with "feelings" and anger over how money is dispensed. You have completely ignored the simple observable fact of the increasing levels of co2. Basically you have nothing else then?Always remember the brave children who died defending your right to bear arms. Freedom is not free. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil1111 1,149 #136 September 2, 2017 Iago***You are going to go with no. But the acknowledged geniuses of science are going with yes. Can you justify yourself with anything more than " that's how I feel "? Sure, easy. I don't have to kiss the same rings to get my check. Once apon a time most of the world was covered in ice. They were called glaciers and it was called "the ice age.". The climate of the planet shifted and the ice melted. What caused the ice to melt? Natural climate shift or anthropogenic global warming? If Elon didn't sign onto this whole thing back in the Obama administration do you think he would have gotten his $500 million DOE guaranteed loan? I don't- he wouldn't have gotten a penny and Tesla would have been gone like a fart in the wind. That being said, I fell in love with the EV1 when I drove it back in 00 or 01 and GM could have owned the market if they pushed ahead with the EV2, but that is another story. What's holding back Tesla is the battery. A smaller battery with a backup APU in the trunk would reduce the cost dramatically but allow full electric daily with multifuel backup power for longer trips. This was the series design of the EV2 and if GM had stuck with it they could've been the Tesla before Tesla. Says everything about the #10 welding shade filtering your view of the world. Where politics takes precedent over logical science. Over the critical, analytical yet flexible thought process. Too bad because you had a long post about the possibility of a scientific mind hiding somewhere. You understand the forces in play. The changes that time bring to the equation. But not the effects that 7.5 billion people have brought to the equation. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,997 #137 September 2, 2017 Enough, both of you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil1111 1,149 #138 September 3, 2017 IagoHow boring would this be if everyone who came on here just agreed with everyone else? Tell ya what, lets just close the corner and have a weekly vid chat where everyone can put their laptops in a circle and nod in unison. You really want to do that? Certainly not, but debate about the merits of political positions with reference to fiscal, psychological, the merits of the benefit to society and the state. Should superseded ideas of "feeling" and the hard core ideologue. I'm on the "green" side but recognize the importance of oil, the need for energy and the associated mess of pipelines, refineries that go with it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,997 #139 September 3, 2017 >If Elon didn't sign onto this whole thing back in the Obama administration do you think >he would have gotten his $500 million DOE guaranteed loan? Given that fossil fuel industries get billions in subsidies? Yes, I do. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
johnhking1 96 #140 September 3, 2017 In the early 1970's during the cold war and the possible threat of a nuclear exchange with Russia, everyone was worried about nuclear winter. If we nuke North Korea, we can solve 2 problems at once. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 2,198 #141 September 3, 2017 johnhking1In the early 1970's during the cold war and the possible threat of a nuclear exchange with Russia, everyone was worried about nuclear winter. If we nuke North Korea, we can solve 2 problems at once. I like it. Can you take out Mecca as well?Always remember the brave children who died defending your right to bear arms. Freedom is not free. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lippy 918 #142 September 3, 2017 gowlerk***In the early 1970's during the cold war and the possible threat of a nuclear exchange with Russia, everyone was worried about nuclear winter. If we nuke North Korea, we can solve 2 problems at once. I like it. Can you take out Mecca as well? On Sept 23?I got nuthin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #143 September 6, 2017 Idiotic opinions peddled by whatsupwiththat and blindly parroted by people like you leads to this kind of idiocy: Hurricanes are a liberal conspiracy. http://www.newsweek.com/irma-hurricane-limbaugh-climate-change-liberal-conspiracy-trump-deep-state-659890 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,997 #144 September 6, 2017 Love this line: "in the official meteorological circles, you have an abundance of people who believe that man-made climate change is real. And they believe that Al Gore is correct when he has written . . .that climate change is creating more hurricanes and stronger hurricanes.” Those are the same so-called "official meteorological circles" that are predicting a hurricane! Can't believe a word they say. But in any case, I thought it was a Chinese conspiracy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 2,198 #145 September 6, 2017 That's funny. I suppose he thinks Rick Scott telling people to "get out quickly" is part of the conspiracy. After all, who is more liberal than the Republican Governor of Florida?Always remember the brave children who died defending your right to bear arms. Freedom is not free. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #146 September 6, 2017 Limbaugh is a resident of Palm Beach, Florida... Go, Irma!"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,997 #147 September 6, 2017 >Limbaugh is a resident of Palm Beach, Florida... Perfect! He can blame liberals for lying if the storm misses him, and he can blame liberals for the storm if it hits him. Perhaps there are some lesbians living near him; surely the storm was because of their sins or something. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #148 September 6, 2017 SkyDekker Idiotic opinions peddled by whatsupwiththat and blindly parroted by people like you leads to this kind of idiocy: Hurricanes are a liberal conspiracy. http://www.newsweek.com/irma-hurricane-limbaugh-climate-change-liberal-conspiracy-trump-deep-state-659890 Two points First you did not read wattsupwiththat (like normal) Second, I had a chance to listen to the show newsweek speaks of. More false reporting (at least way out of context) as per normal. And you wag your tail and take what they say as your truth funny shit man!"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 2,198 #149 September 6, 2017 QuoteFirst you did not read wattsupwiththat (like normal) You are correct today. It is not normal for people to read "wattsupwiththat".Always remember the brave children who died defending your right to bear arms. Freedom is not free. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,997 #150 September 6, 2017 >you did not read wattsupwiththat (like normal) I would suggest that reading things like physics texts and publications like Science and Nature (even digests like Science News; easier to read) might be more edifying than denier propaganda sites (or left wing alarmist sites for that matter.) But beware; reading such sites leads to new insights and understanding, and such insights are sometimes painful for someone used to a steady diet of propaganda. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites