kallend 2,027 #26 July 11, 2017 Trump is a PROVEN liar, with numerous well documented examples. He is also an admitted adulterer and philanderer. His "university" was a scam and had to pay $25Million in damages and fines for operating under false pretenses. How do you reconcile that with your religion's teachings?... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,490 #27 July 11, 2017 kallendHow do you reconcile that with your religion's teachings? He's a good businessman and a winner. Things like ethics, morality and even following the law don't matter in business because the only important thing is winning and making money. Obviously this doesn't apply to other unethical businessmen like drug dealers because... um... because shut up, that's why!Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #28 July 11, 2017 RonD1120The fake news as I recall had to do with Apatheid videos. Yep, I voted for and supported President Reagan. Yes I can see you denying the existence of apartheid. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #29 July 11, 2017 kallendTrump is a PROVEN liar, with numerous well documented examples. He is also an admitted adulterer and philanderer. His "university" was a scam and had to pay $25Million in damages and fines for operating under false pretenses. How do you reconcile that with your religion's teachings? Two different concepts, reconciliation is not required or even necessary.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #30 July 11, 2017 SkyDekker***The fake news as I recall had to do with Apatheid videos. Yep, I voted for and supported President Reagan. Yes I can see you denying the existence of apartheid. I do not deny the existence of apartheid.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,490 #31 July 11, 2017 RonD1120Two different concepts, reconciliation is not required or even necessary. You have, in the past, argued that political leaders must be christian otherwise they would have no moral basis from which to make just laws. You now appear to be saying that Trump has immunity from any moral standards of behaviour demanded by God. How do you reconcile those two concepts?Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,027 #32 July 11, 2017 RonD1120***Trump is a PROVEN liar, with numerous well documented examples. He is also an admitted adulterer and philanderer. His "university" was a scam and had to pay $25Million in damages and fines for operating under false pretenses. How do you reconcile that with your religion's teachings? Two different concepts, reconciliation is not required or even necessary. More like cognitive dissonance on your part. You perfectly fit Jesus's description of the Pharisees. You make a big thing about professing your faith but in practice you not only tolerate but indeed celebrate digression from its teachings.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
grimmie 186 #33 July 11, 2017 And to think I never thought an atheist would ever be elected president in my lifetime. And then along comes Donald Trump. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #34 July 11, 2017 grimmie And to think I never thought an atheist would ever be elected president in my lifetime. And then along comes Donald Trump. Can it really be called atheism when you worship yourself?"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 2,193 #35 July 11, 2017 QuoteYou make a big thing about professing your faith but in practice you not only tolerate but indeed celebrate digression from its teachings. Ron's politics have nothing to do with faith. They only part of the many messages of Jesus he cares about is the promise of salvation. All that part about loving your neighbour? Optional. And socialist to boot. Ron only wants to take from his religion. He has nothing at all to give.Always remember the brave children who died defending your right to bear arms. Freedom is not free. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
winsor 236 #36 July 12, 2017 grimmieAnd to think I never thought an atheist would ever be elected president in my lifetime. And then along comes Donald Trump. What are you talking about? We elected a god. Any good monotheistic god has some basic characteristics. He (she/it/whatever) takes claim for creating everything. He is remarkably capricious. He makes the rules up as he goes along. He cares greatly about receiving endless adulation. He is very insecure about slights, real or imagined. He is big on vengeance. And so forth. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airdvr 210 #38 July 12, 2017 That's funny. Trying to identify Trump as a liar in politics is like trying to point out the green M&M in the bowl.Please don't dent the planet. Destinations by Roxanne Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,991 #39 July 12, 2017 >Trying to identify Trump as a liar in politics is like trying to point out the green M&M >in the bowl. More like trying to point out the one tandem canopy in a sky full of Velocities. Pretty easy, even if they are all parachutes. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
winsor 236 #40 July 12, 2017 airdvrThat's funny. Trying to identify Trump as a liar in politics is like trying to point out the green M&M in the bowl. More like trying to pick out a particular grain of sand at the beach. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #41 July 12, 2017 gowlerkQuoteYou make a big thing about professing your faith but in practice you not only tolerate but indeed celebrate digression from its teachings. Ron's politics have nothing to do with faith. He has nothing at all to give. Your ego illusion is in error. How can I correct that?Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfriverjoe 1,523 #42 July 12, 2017 RonD1120***QuoteYou make a big thing about professing your faith but in practice you not only tolerate but indeed celebrate digression from its teachings. Ron's politics have nothing to do with faith. He has nothing at all to give. Your ego illusion is in error. How can I correct that? Show some indication that you actually practice the teachings of your "savior"."There are NO situations which do not call for a French Maid outfit." Lucky McSwervy "~ya don't GET old by being weak & stupid!" - Airtwardo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lawndarter 3 #43 July 12, 2017 airdvrThat's funny. Trying to identify Trump as a liar in politics is like trying to point out the green M&M in the bowl. I have a hard time coming up with a precedent for the sheer volume of lies, or the unbridled and pointless stupidity of so many of those lies. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 801 #44 July 12, 2017 That right there is funny. So far, it's never been shown. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #45 July 12, 2017 wolfriverjoe Show some indication that you actually practice the teachings of your "savior". For example?Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,027 #46 July 12, 2017 RonD1120 ***Trump is a PROVEN liar, with numerous well documented examples. He is also an admitted adulterer and philanderer. His "university" was a scam and had to pay $25Million in damages and fines for operating under false pretenses. How do you reconcile that with your religion's teachings? Two different concepts, reconciliation is not required or even necessary. That would not be my interpretation of the Beattitudes. You celebrate the presidency of an individual who is a dishonest POS who not only violates several of the 10 Commandments, but also (at least) 6 of the Beattitudes. And you see no hypocrisy in your position. ... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #47 July 12, 2017 kallend ******Trump is a PROVEN liar, with numerous well documented examples. He is also an admitted adulterer and philanderer. His "university" was a scam and had to pay $25Million in damages and fines for operating under false pretenses. How do you reconcile that with your religion's teachings? Two different concepts, reconciliation is not required or even necessary. That would not be my interpretation of the Beattitudes. You celebrate the presidency of an individual who is a dishonest POS who not only violates several of the 10 Commandments, but also (at least) 6 of the Beattitudes. And you see no hypocrisy in your position. No, because I did not vote and do not support him as a spiritual leader. I voted for him because I did not support Hillary Clinton. I say let him do his job and evaluate in 2020.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,490 #48 July 12, 2017 RonD1120No, because I did not vote and do not support him as a spiritual leader. I voted for him because I did not support Hillary Clinton. I say let him do his job and evaluate in 2020. At this point in Obama's presidency you were comparing him to Karl Marx and Hitler, and stating that he wanted to wage a culture war against the US and put an end to the free market. Didn't take you 4 years to make up your mind then. What's changed now?Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airdvr 210 #49 July 12, 2017 Lawndarter***That's funny. Trying to identify Trump as a liar in politics is like trying to point out the green M&M in the bowl. I have a hard time coming up with a precedent for the sheer volume of lies, or the unbridled and pointless stupidity of so many of those lies. Rather I think what we're seeing is the unscripted version of today's politics. Prior to Trump politicians were very guarded in what they would say, feeding us the massaged version of what they thought we wanted to hear. Same suck, just a filtered version.Please don't dent the planet. Destinations by Roxanne Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,027 #50 July 12, 2017 Four more Pinocchios for Trump: www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2017/07/12/president-trumps-claim-billions-and-billions-are-pouring-into-nato-because-of-his-administration/?utm_term=.4e50a55163fc... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
