headoverheels 333 #726 December 16, 2020 55 minutes ago, ryoder said: Alleged crusade to stop voter fraud lands former HPD captain in handcuffs https://abc13.com/mark-anthony-aguirre-former-houston-police-department-captain-arrested-aggravated-assault-liberty-center/8802235/ A former Houston Police Department Captain was arrested and charged for running a man off the road and pointing a gun at his head in an attempt to prove claims of a massive voter fraud scheme in Harris County, according to a news release from the Harris County's DA's office. [facepalm] I'm guessing that the basketball player with the exact same first/middle/last name, and almost the same age, isn't too glad about this either. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,500 #727 December 16, 2020 13 hours ago, ryoder said: Alleged crusade to stop voter fraud lands former HPD captain in handcuffs Wow. A guy being paid a quarter of a million dollars to investigate voter fraud, who claims to have carried out an extensive investigation and surveillance, which leads him to hijack an air conditioning repair truck which turned out to be full of air conditioning repair tools. Leaving aside that this guy needs to go to prison for quite some time and his victim needs to get every penny of that fee and more - at what point does the wider Republican take ownership of this insanity and tell Trump to stop, tell their constituents there was no fraud and tell them that Joe Biden is not just the reported winner but the legitimate winner? 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfriverjoe 1,523 #728 December 16, 2020 12 minutes ago, jakee said: ...- at what point does the wider Republican take ownership of this insanity and tell Trump to stop, tell their constituents there was no fraud and tell them that Joe Biden is not just the reported winner but the legitimate winner? They don't. They CAN'T. They're in way too deep. If they try to convince the Trumpettes that the whole thing was a con, they will destroy their party. Many (most?) won't believe it anyway. Those morons will convince themselves that the "Deep State" got to the Rs and made them lie to cover up the 'truth'. McConnell is quietly telling the Rs in the Senate not to oppose the confirmation of Biden's win. He doesn't want it to turn into a shit-show, where the base will attack anyone who supports the legitimacy of the election. But the base will attack anyone who doesn't attack the legitimacy of the election. It's possible (not super likely, but possible) that this will tear the R party apart. Look at the quotes Bill has posted from Parler. Those morons either can't or won't give up. The level of unreality they support is frightening. The former cop, now accused felon, is a good example of this. He claimed that there were 750k 'fraudulent ballots' in the van full of A/C equipment. Why? What would those 'ballots' be doing there? Aren't all the ballots in the hands of the election commissions? And what good would they be in the van? It's too late to put them anywhere, too late for them to count, too late for anything. The logical disconnect for this is pretty huge. And this guy was a former cop. And a Captain. That's not an easy position to reach. Yet he still is so fucked in the head that he does this. And I doubt he's alone in his thinking. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,367 #729 December 16, 2020 8 hours ago, wolfriverjoe said: They don't. They CAN'T. They're in way too deep. If they try to convince the Trumpettes that the whole thing was a con, they will destroy their party. Many (most?) won't believe it anyway. Those morons will convince themselves that the "Deep State" got to the Rs and made them lie to cover up the 'truth'. McConnell is quietly telling the Rs in the Senate not to oppose the confirmation of Biden's win. He doesn't want it to turn into a shit-show, where the base will attack anyone who supports the legitimacy of the election. But the base will attack anyone who doesn't attack the legitimacy of the election. It's possible (not super likely, but possible) that this will tear the R party apart. Look at the quotes Bill has posted from Parler. Those morons either can't or won't give up. The level of unreality they support is frightening. The former cop, now accused felon, is a good example of this. He claimed that there were 750k 'fraudulent ballots' in the van full of A/C equipment. Why? What would those 'ballots' be doing there? Aren't all the ballots in the hands of the election commissions? And what good would they be in the van? It's too late to put them anywhere, too late for them to count, too late for anything. The logical disconnect for this is pretty huge. And this guy was a former cop. And a Captain. That's not an easy position to reach. Yet he still is so fucked in the head that he does this. And I doubt he's alone in his thinking. Hi Joe, Re: 'And I doubt he's alone in his thinking.' And, that is the scary part. Jerry Baumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TriGirl 319 #730 December 17, 2020 10 hours ago, wolfriverjoe said: If they try to convince the Trumpettes that the whole thing was a con, they will destroy their party. That ship sailed long ago. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NewGuy2005 53 #731 December 17, 2020 22 hours ago, wolfriverjoe said: ...The logical disconnect for this is pretty huge. And this guy was a former cop. And a Captain. That's not an easy position to reach. Yet he still is so fucked in the head that he does this.... This is the part that really has me wondering what we are witnessing. Presumably, this guy was a highly competent person at one time. However, he is not a phenomenon. There have been plenty of other competent, respectable people in public roles that have gone down the same path. Some go down that path out of sincere conviction and others go down it out of cynical opportunism. How many people do we know in our personal lives that we considered to be intelligent enough just a few years ago that now seem to be completely lost to this cause? The human mind is a lot more fragile than I thought it was. What we have, intellectually, one year may become derailed the next year by any number of causes. We are particularly susceptible to influence from other people when those people legitimize our fears and complaints. It's satisfying, to me, to a point out and attack the madness of the other side, but I doesn't get me anywhere. I think the challenge of the future is going to be learn our societal weaknesses and try to construct an environment in which those weaknesses are not tested, or even worse, exploited. Buildings are built around the full understanding of human behavior when a building is on fire. Maybe we can start to recognize what causes the current kind of division and safeguard against it the same way you would design a building. There are plenty of examples in history that we can revisit. Now we have one more example to add to it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,027 #732 December 17, 2020 12 hours ago, TriGirl said: That ship sailed long ago. Bigly. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,452 #733 December 17, 2020 16 minutes ago, NewGuy2005 said: How many people do we know in our personal lives that we considered to be intelligent enough just a few years ago that now seem to be completely lost to this cause? It's the power of magical thinking; the same thing that leads people dealing with death to try to bargain at first before accepting. We can all do it, I just try not to double down on it. Wendy P. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 444 #734 December 18, 2020 22 hours ago, TriGirl said: That ship sailed long ago. If they try to convince the Trumpettes that the whole thing was a con, they will destroy their party. Yup the Rs got totally destroyed in the last election https://www.npr.org/2020/11/11/933435840/the-2020-election-was-a-good-one-for-republicans-not-named-trump Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,727 #735 December 18, 2020 11 hours ago, NewGuy2005 said: How many people do we know in our personal lives that we considered to be intelligent enough just a few years ago that now seem to be completely lost to this cause? Zero for me. I have friends who are R's who wanted Trump to be reelected but none who have spiraled down the election denial rathole. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TriGirl 319 #736 December 18, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, brenthutch said: If they try to convince the Trumpettes that the whole thing was a con, they will destroy their party. Yup the Rs got totally destroyed in the last election https://www.npr.org/2020/11/11/933435840/the-2020-election-was-a-good-one-for-republicans-not-named-trump I didn't say they weren't getting elected. I meant that they are not what the Republican party claims it stands for (small government, personal accountability, fiscal responsibility). How many of the higher ranking, long-term Republican officials chose to leave the field altogether at the mid-terms and this year? The current batch now define what it means to be a Republican: selfish, power-driven, with no regard whatsoever about rule of law, decency, or real patriotism. THAT is what was destroyed. Edited December 18, 2020 by TriGirl Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 444 #737 December 18, 2020 30 minutes ago, TriGirl said: The current batch now define what it means to be a Republican: selfish, power-driven, with no regard whatsoever about rule of law, decency, or real patriotism. They turned into Democrats? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tonyhays 86 #738 December 18, 2020 34 minutes ago, brenthutch said: They turned into Democrats? Don't quit your day job Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mistercwood 287 #739 December 18, 2020 19 hours ago, brenthutch said: They turned into Democrats? Stop dodging, Trigirl's right and you know it. Marjorie Taylor Greene openly supported QAnon throughout her campaign - a movement already declared a domestic terror threat by the FBI - and got elected to the House under a Republican banner. The standard you allow is the standard you set. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfriverjoe 1,523 #740 January 9, 2021 The Offensive Line coach at Chattanooga got fired for being... Offensive.https://sports.yahoo.com/chattanooga-football-assistant-coach-fired-after-calling-stacey-abrams-fat-albert-on-twitter-143908580.html?ncid=facebook_yahoosport_l0w2dc1068w&fbclid=IwAR2wOv304lUv_5ytXe9XcnTVHhmYypqMNVOf5G22Ad-YdhuxzZT2J_HdXD4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yoink 321 #741 January 26, 2021 I knew Kellyanne Conway was insane, but this passes through Deplorable and into properly fucked up. "Kellyanne Conway Accused of Posting Topless Photo of Her 16-Year-Old Daughter on Twitter" https://variety.com/2021/digital/news/kellyanne-conway-accused-topless-photo-daughter-claudia-twitter-1234892220/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #742 January 26, 2021 8 minutes ago, yoink said: I knew Kellyanne Conway was insane, but this passes through Deplorable and into properly fucked up. "Kellyanne Conway Accused of Posting Topless Photo of Her 16-Year-Old Daughter on Twitter" https://variety.com/2021/digital/news/kellyanne-conway-accused-topless-photo-daughter-claudia-twitter-1234892220/ Too bad this didn't happen prior to last Friday's interview on Bill Maher's show. I would paid money to see Bill ask her about it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,027 #743 January 26, 2021 1 hour ago, yoink said: I knew Kellyanne Conway was insane, but this passes through Deplorable and into properly fucked up. "Kellyanne Conway Accused of Posting Topless Photo of Her 16-Year-Old Daughter on Twitter" https://variety.com/2021/digital/news/kellyanne-conway-accused-topless-photo-daughter-claudia-twitter-1234892220/ Not topless, it was just alternate clothing. 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #744 January 26, 2021 2 hours ago, yoink said: I knew Kellyanne Conway was insane, but this passes through Deplorable and into properly fucked up. "Kellyanne Conway Accused of Posting Topless Photo of Her 16-Year-Old Daughter on Twitter" https://variety.com/2021/digital/news/kellyanne-conway-accused-topless-photo-daughter-claudia-twitter-1234892220/ Apparently in revenge for her daughter posting videos of her being verbally abused. Kellyanne is fucked, but where the fuck is George in all of this? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,367 #745 January 26, 2021 Hi folks, 'Trump’s American Carnage' S2021 E3: "Trump's American Carnage" - Preview | FRONTLINE | Programs | PBS SoCal FRONTLINE is doing a program about Trump and the results of his presidency. It's on in this area at 10 PM this evening. Jerry Baumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil1111 1,149 #746 January 26, 2021 1 hour ago, JerryBaumchen said: Hi folks, 'Trump’s American Carnage' S2021 E3: "Trump's American Carnage" - Preview | FRONTLINE | Programs | PBS SoCal FRONTLINE is doing a program about Trump and the results of his presidency. It's on in this area at 10 PM this evening. Jerry Baumchen Will be interesting to see how PBS can edit the carnage to only an hour. They should put Ken Burns to work on another mini-series. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,367 #747 February 2, 2021 Hi folks, Re: McConnell Slams Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene Conspiracies As 'Loony Lies' I realize that this is only early February, but I want to nominate the above as the understatement of 2021. McConnell Slams Marjorie Taylor Greene's Conspiracy Theories : NPR Jerry Baumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,367 #748 February 22, 2021 Hi folks, Another Good Riddance; this time at the state level: Embattled Democratic lawmaker Rep. Diego Hernandez is resigning - OPB Jerry Baumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,027 #749 February 22, 2021 7 hours ago, JerryBaumchen said: Hi folks, Another Good Riddance; this time at the state level: Embattled Democratic lawmaker Rep. Diego Hernandez is resigning - OPB Jerry Baumchen Shouldn't that be in the Sleazebag Politician thread? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,367 #750 February 22, 2021 8 hours ago, kallend said: Shouldn't that be in the Sleazebag Politician thread? Hi John, With so many of them, I thought that one was full. Jerry Baumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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