RonD1120 62 #151 September 30, 2017 That is why we proclaim Christ as the way, the truth and the life. Whosoever believes in Him shall not perish but have everlasting life. I am a whosoever, so are you.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,106 #152 September 30, 2017 "May the Flying Spaghetti Monster touch you with His Noodly Appendage" is no less meaningful than the stuff you believe.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yoink 321 #153 September 30, 2017 RonD1120 That is why we proclaim Christ as the way, the truth and the life. Whosoever believes in Him shall not perish but have everlasting life. I am a whosoever, so are you. Believe or suffer eternally? If that's your god's deal, he can stick it up his arse. I don't respond well to extortion. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 2,251 #154 September 30, 2017 yoink ***That is why we proclaim Christ as the way, the truth and the life. Whosoever believes in Him shall not perish but have everlasting life. I am a whosoever, so are you. Believe or suffer eternally? If that's your god's deal, he can stick it up his arse. I don't respond well to extortion. No use arguing. I agree, Yahweh is evil and not worthy of worship. But believers will simply shake their heads at your arrogance in the face of a Greater Power.Always remember the brave children who died defending your right to bear arms. Freedom is not free. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tkhayes 348 #155 September 30, 2017 Quote Believe or suffer eternally? If that's your god's deal, he can stick it up his arse. I don't respond well to extortion. yep, what a self-centered egotistical prick he must be.... ditto for me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #156 October 1, 2017 yoink ***That is why we proclaim Christ as the way, the truth and the life. Whosoever believes in Him shall not perish but have everlasting life. I am a whosoever, so are you. Believe or suffer eternally? If that's your god's deal, he can stick it up his arse. I don't respond well to extortion. You have been exposed to misinformation. We all are born into sin. Sin means separation from God. Separation means upon death in the physical your spirit/soul will be lost for all eternity. God loves us and does not want us to perish for eternity. He provided a gateway through the death of Jesus the Christ to regain our relationship with Him. When we choose to accept Christ we jump onto the spiritual track to eternal life.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
christelsabine 1 #157 October 1, 2017 RonD1120 ******That is why we proclaim Christ as the way, the truth and the life. Whosoever believes in Him shall not perish but have everlasting life. I am a whosoever, so are you. Believe or suffer eternally? If that's your god's deal, he can stick it up his arse. I don't respond well to extortion. You have been exposed to misinformation. We all are born into sin. Sin means separation from God. Separation means upon death in the physical your spirit/soul will be lost for all eternity. God loves us and does not want us to perish for eternity. He provided a gateway through the death of Jesus the Christ to regain our relationship with Him. When we choose to accept Christ we jump onto the spiritual track to eternal life. Which sin?? All newborns are innocent, that's I've been told. Your god seems to have a weird sense of humor, providing a gateway through the death of Jesus .... I'd love to see the "chosen ones" jumping onto a spiritual track - what do you think: Will your fearless leader be amongst them? dudeist skydiver # 3105 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #158 October 1, 2017 christelsabine *********That is why we proclaim Christ as the way, the truth and the life. Whosoever believes in Him shall not perish but have everlasting life. I am a whosoever, so are you. Believe or suffer eternally? If that's your god's deal, he can stick it up his arse. I don't respond well to extortion. You have been exposed to misinformation. We all are born into sin. Sin means separation from God. Separation means upon death in the physical your spirit/soul will be lost for all eternity. God loves us and does not want us to perish for eternity. He provided a gateway through the death of Jesus the Christ to regain our relationship with Him. When we choose to accept Christ we jump onto the spiritual track to eternal life. Which sin?? All newborns are innocent, that's I've been told. Your god seems to have a weird sense of humor, providing a gateway through the death of Jesus .... I'd love to see the "chosen ones" jumping onto a spiritual track - what do you think: Will your fearless leader be amongst them? Sin is present when the child develops "I." My fearless leader is Jesus the Christ and the Holy Spirit, same/same.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,563 #159 October 1, 2017 Why is that a sin? In every other context don't you idolise the concept of 'I'? In sport, in business, in politics you claim to love winners - even excusing incredibly selfish behaviour as long as it is in the pursuit of winning. Isn't that the ultimate expression of the concept of 'I'?Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yoink 321 #160 October 1, 2017 RonD1120 ******That is why we proclaim Christ as the way, the truth and the life. Whosoever believes in Him shall not perish but have everlasting life. I am a whosoever, so are you. Believe or suffer eternally? If that's your god's deal, he can stick it up his arse. I don't respond well to extortion. You have been exposed to misinformation. We all are born into sin. Sin means separation from God. Separation means upon death in the physical your spirit/soul will be lost for all eternity. God loves us and does not want us to perish for eternity. He provided a gateway through the death of Jesus the Christ to regain our relationship with Him. When we choose to accept Christ we jump onto the spiritual track to eternal life. If God loved us like you suggest he wouldn't demand belief to stop our suffering. Or he wouldn't have made EVERYBODY on earth naturally develop the concept of I. "Here. You're going to have this trait that I designed... unasked for and unavoidable. SURPRISE! You're now doomed for all eternity unless you do X and Y for me because you've got it." I stand by my 'stick it up his arse' position. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 2,251 #161 October 1, 2017 Quote You have been exposed to misinformation. Or, just maybe, you have.Always remember the brave children who died defending your right to bear arms. Freedom is not free. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #162 October 1, 2017 It is the development of the ego which always stands in opposition to God.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,563 #163 October 1, 2017 RonD1120 It is the development of the ego which always stands in opposition to God. And yet you celebrate it, often and loudly. You approve of it as a desireable quality in those you agree with.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DJL 235 #164 October 2, 2017 RonD1120 ******That is why we proclaim Christ as the way, the truth and the life. Whosoever believes in Him shall not perish but have everlasting life. I am a whosoever, so are you. Believe or suffer eternally? If that's your god's deal, he can stick it up his arse. I don't respond well to extortion. You have been exposed to misinformation. We all are born into sin. Sin means separation from God. Separation means upon death in the physical your spirit/soul will be lost for all eternity. God loves us and does not want us to perish for eternity. He provided a gateway through the death of Jesus the Christ to regain our relationship with Him. When we choose to accept Christ we jump onto the spiritual track to eternal life. If God is so benevolent then why did he torture Job just to prove a point to Satan? That's like letting someone torture your dog just to show your friends that it'll still come running to you since it doesn't know that you're the one who allowed it."I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 2,251 #165 October 2, 2017 Quote If God is so benevolent then why did he torture Job just to prove a point to Satan? That's like letting someone torture your dog just to show your friends that it'll still come running to you since it doesn't know that you're the one who allowed it. Jehovah is our Shepherd. As such he brings the lambs to slaughter. It is his right. To obedient sheep like Ron, he brings mercy. It is the belief founded by the sand people to help understand their lives. The same place all the most evil religions of Man came from.Always remember the brave children who died defending your right to bear arms. Freedom is not free. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #166 October 2, 2017 God knew Job's heart and He knew his faith was strong. As such He used Job to provide an example to the world that Satan cannot read your mind, that you can withstand Satan's attacks and that God will restore what Satan has stolen. What you call torture is really just the stuff of life. People experience those types of tragedies daily.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 855 #167 October 2, 2017 Such a dick for a non-existent being! Fuck him, I'm over his killing of his creations. We'd lock people up for life for less atrocities, unless it involved a gun and a white guy. Love me forever or I will torture you for all eternity. That's not love nor salvation from anything. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yoink 321 #168 October 2, 2017 normiss We'd lock people up for life for less atrocities, unless it involved a gun and a white guy. . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DJL 235 #169 October 2, 2017 RonD1120 God knew Job's heart and He knew his faith was strong. As such He used Job to provide an example to the world that Satan cannot read your mind, that you can withstand Satan's attacks and that God will restore what Satan has stolen. What you call torture is really just the stuff of life. People experience those types of tragedies daily. So, if I have an employee and I want to prove to my competitor that the employee is faithful to me and I arrange some situation where the guy's family is murdered, he's given every sickness in the book, people destroy all of his property etc and guy still shows up to work for me then have I committed a moral act?"I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #170 October 2, 2017 No, you will go to jail.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,075 #171 October 2, 2017 DJL So, if I have an employee and I want to prove to my competitor that the employee is faithful to me and I arrange some situation where the guy's family is murdered, he's given every sickness in the book, people destroy all of his property etc and guy still shows up to work for me then have I committed a moral act? Keep in mind that Ron practices moral relativity, and what is moral depends on who is doing it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DJL 235 #172 October 2, 2017 RonD1120 No, you will go to jail. So there's no way that God could have demonstrated someone's faith other than torturing him, murdering his family, etc? If Job knew that God was pulling the strings do think he would be so happy to be on God's side? What if the real test in life is whether or not to side with the guy who is murdering and torturing people?"I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 855 #173 October 2, 2017 God doesn't do that to white white Americans! Only people from third world countries and those of color! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #174 October 2, 2017 Job 13:14-16New King James Version (NKJV) 14 Why do I take my flesh in my teeth, And put my life in my hands? 15 Though He slay me, yet will I trust Him. Even so, I will defend my own ways before Him. 16 He also shall be my salvation, For a hypocrite could not come before Him. Job was a man strong in faith and always trusting in God.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 2,251 #175 October 2, 2017 The Bob Dylan version: Oh, God said to Abraham, "Kill me a son" Abe said, "Man, you must be puttin' me on" God said, "No" Abe say, "What?" God say, "You can do what you want, Abe, but The next time you see me comin', you better run" Well, Abe said, "Where d'you want this killin' done?" God said, "Out on Highway 61" God has always been a bit of a sadist.Always remember the brave children who died defending your right to bear arms. Freedom is not free. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
