bamber 0 #1 September 23, 2017 The reason for requiring businesses to accept service dogs was to help blind people, etc. It degenerated to the point to where people are bringing claiming their dogs are "service dogs" because it helps with sleep apnea and they need the dog to help them "stay alert" in restaurants. These people are scamming us. These lowlife scammers are using a low to help blind people to get their dogs on planes where they bark and bother children with allergies. Phony service dogs also leave feces on restaurant carpet while people are trying to eat in peace. The woman is right about saying the dog does not belong in a place where food is being served. The owner is not blind. He claims it helps with PTSD, which is of course impossible to measure. So much money is paid out in PTSD claims that medical care for paralyzed soldiers is lessened. See below how people having allergies will not keep a phony service dog out of a restaurant. This is one of the reasons hotels have no-pet rules. How does a small restaurant keep the phony service animal separate? To claim advantage for the blind, deaf, crippled, etc. without merit is evil. QuoteAllergies and fear of dogs are not valid reasons for denying access or refusing service to people using service animals. https://www.ada.gov/service_animals_2010.htm See this video about service dog scams. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOsKE_yZ3Mk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ySSdeYpoWBU Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 798 #2 September 23, 2017 I have much more important things to worry about. Besides, in the state of Florida, the only "scamming" they get is to sit in the patio dining area with the smokers. They can have the smoking section for all I care. Time to finish cooking dinner and have a beer and relax. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bamber 0 #3 September 23, 2017 normiss Besides, in the state of Florida, the only "scamming" they get is to sit in the patio dining area with the smokers. Not true. See this video about Florida. Most states do not even have a law like Florida does, At least Florida has a something even though it is unenforceable, that Federal supremacy, you know. http://blog.adoptandshop.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/fake-service-dog.jpg Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
grimmie 186 #4 September 24, 2017 I live in Costa Rica. If dogs bother you in restaurants, don't ever go out to eat here. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 798 #5 September 24, 2017 I'll take my real life experience over a blog. I've yet to go to a restaurant that allows them inside where food is served, service dog or otherwise. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil1111 1,149 #6 September 24, 2017 normissI'll take my real life experience over a blog. I've yet to go to a restaurant that allows them inside where food is served, service dog or otherwise. Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA) Under the ADA, State and local governments, businesses, and nonprofit organizations that serve the public generally must allow service animals to accompany people with disabilities in all areas of the facility where the public is normally allowed to go. For example, in a hospital it would be inappropriate to exclude a service animal from areas such as patient rooms, clinics, cafeterias, or examination rooms. However, it may be appropriate to exclude a service animal from operating rooms or burn units where the animal’s presence may compromise a sterile environment. https://www.ada.gov/service_animals_2010.htm Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 798 #7 September 24, 2017 So the patio isn't considered the dining area? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil1111 1,149 #8 September 24, 2017 Well you learn something every day. A friend was charged big bucks to have a cat shipped via air. I suggested to her a new business sewing up "service animal" velcro jackets for cats so they can fly for free. Seriously, I doubt this is an issue. Having said that, its amazing to go to Costco and see the disabled parking spaces filled with cars all displaying disabled plates. Yet all the owners seem to have no problem negotiating a huge warehouse. Loading copious quantities of food and flat screen tv's into those same cars by themselves. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DanG 1 #9 September 24, 2017 FYI, the term "crippled" to many disabled people is akin the the n-word for many black people. I suggest if you're trying to sound like an advocate for the disabled that you purge that from your vocabulary. As far as "service dogs" I think they should be treated like any other patron at your business. If they act inappropriately, kick them and their owner out. If someone's child starts stealing food and poopoing on the floor you have every right to ask the party to leave. Service animals are no different. - Dan G Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #10 September 24, 2017 This thread is really a continuation of: http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=4820361#4820361"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 798 #11 September 24, 2017 Given we can no longer have peanuts in cabins due to allergies, cats and dogs are ok now? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nolhtairt 0 #12 September 25, 2017 Simple fix, require a reputable doctor's note with a verifiable phone number to call to see if the need is legit. Far as I know, only the blind and those with seizure disorders should be allowed service dogs. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Niki1 1 #13 September 25, 2017 normiss I have much more important things to worry about. Besides, in the state of Florida, the only "scamming" they get is to sit in the patio dining area with the smokers. They can have the smoking section for all I care. Time to finish cooking dinner and have a beer and relax. I think the smoking section for dogs is in Korean restaurants.Most of the things worth doing in the world had been declared impossilbe before they were done. Louis D Brandeis Where are we going and why are we in this basket? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites