rushmc 23 #201 October 11, 2017 normissGiven their union is behind them in full support, this could get legally interesting. More so given it's a constitutional right. More fake news as it has nothing to do with a constitutional right. Same BS you use for health care. You make it up as you go."America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 798 #202 October 11, 2017 It's sadly comical to see some folks who refuse to understand the constitution, unless it supports their perspective or their rights, but not for others they disagree with. I've never claimed health care as a constitutional right, although I do think it should be a human right. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,489 #203 October 11, 2017 rushmc***I guess we will get to see whether the NFL has any courage, or whether they are politically correct wimps. I would guess the latter, but we will see. Being a politically correct wimp means you kneel. Haha, right. Obviously the term 'Politically correct' only applies to values that the left side of the political spectrum tries to pressure you into observing. Wimpy things like acting with equal respect and dignity to all people, regardless of race or gender. Like they deserve it? What a bunch of PC pussies. The values the right side of the political spectrum tries to pressure you into observing couldn't possibly be seen the same way! No, those are strong, manly, common sense values like acting with equal respect and dignity to a flag and a song. What kind of asshole wouldn't do that anyway? No, only an idiot woud use the term 'Political correctness' to describe the behavour that the current President and ruling political party demand that their citizens emulate.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aphid 0 #204 October 11, 2017 airdvrInterested in everyone's thoughts. I'm of the opinion that none of Mr. Trump's feigned indignation has anything to do with a song, a flag, soldiers, and certainly not the black athletes. I'll get back to this. He is attempting to destroy your latest national health insurance program nicknamed after his predecessor not because he thinks it's faulty - he just wants to eliminate all record of a man who publicly made fun of him at the WH correspondents dinner. He fired the FBI Director not because he was incompetent, but because Comey had dared stand up to him. The encyclopedic volume of people he has taken hateful and derogatory shots at via Twitter firmly establishes he thinks and behaves no better than a pathetically resentful grade-school bully. If somebody rejects him, he will get even. Even if it takes decades. Returning to the topic and Trumps attempt to convert the NFL players message and fan flames of misguided patriotism against the NFL organization is purely a direct result of his sound defeat and subsequent humiliation by the exclusive members-only club of NFL ownership. He is still pissed-off and by god, the NFL will pay... "In 1985, the USFL voted to move from a spring to a fall schedule in 1986 to compete directly with the NFL. This was done at the urging of New Jersey Generals majority owner Donald Trump and a handful of other owners as a way to force a merger between the leagues. As part of this strategy, the USFL filed an anti-trust lawsuit against the National Football League in 1986, and a jury ruled that the NFL had violated anti-monopoly laws. However, in a victory in name only, the USFL was awarded a judgment of just $1, which under anti-trust laws, was tripled to $3.[2] This court decision effectively ended the USFL. The league never played the 1986 season, and by the time it folded, it had lost over US$163 million" source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Football_League Just my $0.02 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yoink 321 #205 October 11, 2017 rushmc***Given their union is behind them in full support, this could get legally interesting. More so given it's a constitutional right. More fake news as it has nothing to do with a constitutional right. Same BS you use for health care. You make it up as you go. As usual, I think you're deliberately oversimplifying. From my reading into it, your employer cannot remove your constitutional rights. (That's what the constitution means)... They CAN impose a penalty for exercising them in company time or on company property, but if you choose to do it and suffer the consequences then your right to do so is constitutionally protected. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,990 #206 October 11, 2017 >Being a politically correct wimp means you kneel. No, bowing to the government's definition of political correctness means you follow their demands and stand as ordered. Will they have the courage to resist the government's demands? Or will they meekly follow orders? We will see. I am going to go with them being politically correct wimps and bowing to the government. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #207 October 11, 2017 billvon>Being a politically correct wimp means you kneel. No, bowing to the government's definition of political correctness means you follow their demands and stand as ordered. Will they have the courage to resist the government's demands? Or will they meekly follow orders? We will see. I am going to go with them being politically correct wimps and bowing to the government. the gov does not define political correctness today the left and it's compliant media does!"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lawndarter 3 #208 October 11, 2017 rushmc the gov does not define political correctness today the left and it's compliant media does! It would seem that it's in fact the butthurt snivelling little conservative snowflakes that do. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,990 #209 October 11, 2017 >the gov does not define political correctness today It does indeed. Politics is currently dominated by the right wing - right wing Senate, House, presidency and court. They (the politicians) define what "politically correct" means. That's why the first word in the phrase "politically correct" is "politically." Most recently, it is whatever Trump wants. He enforces his vision of political correctness by threatening anyone who opposes him or makes fun of him. For example, his latest attempt to silence the press is to threaten to revoke their broadcasting licenses unless they publish what he wants. Will the press give in to political correctness? Or will they have the courage to fight Trump and his supporters? We will see. Supporting the coal industry by claiming it's for all those poor coal miners - political correctness. Denying climate change to curry favor with the government - political correctness. Private sports team kowtowing to the president's personal beliefs for profit - political correctness. It will be fun to see you suddenly support that which you railed against for years, Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,489 #210 October 11, 2017 rushmc***>Being a politically correct wimp means you kneel. No, bowing to the government's definition of political correctness means you follow their demands and stand as ordered. Will they have the courage to resist the government's demands? Or will they meekly follow orders? We will see. I am going to go with them being politically correct wimps and bowing to the government. the gov does not define political correctness today the left and it's compliant media does! Nope, sounds like you're trying to define political correctness, and funnily enough your definition doesn't include behaviour that the current holders of political power deem to be correct. Well that just wont wash. The right and its lapdog networks and fake news cheerleaders are putting huge pressure on the NFL to act in a PC fashion, and you and your fellow snowflakes are just loving it.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,990 #211 October 11, 2017 In the latest Trump tweet, Trump claims: ====================== It is about time that Roger Goodell of the NFL is finally demanding that all players STAND for our great National Anthem-RESPECT OUR COUNTRY ====================== That evil news media then dared ask Goodell whether or not he demanded that. He said no. It's gotten to the point where you can simply assume whatever the opposite of what Trump says is true. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mr2mk1g 10 #212 October 11, 2017 rushmc***Given their union is behind them in full support, this could get legally interesting. More so given it's a constitutional right. More fake news as it has nothing to do with a constitutional right. Same BS you use for health care. You make it up as you go. Is English your first language? It's not 'fake news' just because you disagree with it. Whether or not their union is backing them is a question of objective fact. Whether it involves a question of a constitutional right is a question of law to be maybe one day determined by a court. If you simply disagree with the statement you should say so but merely your contrary view does not make it 'fake news'. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,026 #213 October 11, 2017 billvon>the gov does not define political correctness today It does indeed. Politics is currently dominated by the right wing - right wing Senate, House, presidency and court. They (the politicians) define what "politically correct" means. That's why the first word in the phrase "politically correct" is "politically." Marc has shown over and over again that he doesn't really understand the words and phrases that he uses.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bob_Church 7 #214 October 11, 2017 Twenty years in the future "Mommy, why do people kneel before the national anthem?" "To show respect for the flag and the constitution dear." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,444 #215 October 11, 2017 Wendy P.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #216 October 15, 2017 aphid***Interested in everyone's thoughts. I'm of the opinion that none of Mr. Trump's feigned indignation has anything to do with a song, a flag, soldiers, and certainly not the black athletes. I'll get back to this. He is attempting to destroy your latest national health insurance program nicknamed after his predecessor not because he thinks it's faulty - he just wants to eliminate all record of a man who publicly made fun of him at the WH correspondents dinner. He fired the FBI Director not because he was incompetent, but because Comey had dared stand up to him. The encyclopedic volume of people he has taken hateful and derogatory shots at via Twitter firmly establishes he thinks and behaves no better than a pathetically resentful grade-school bully. If somebody rejects him, he will get even. Even if it takes decades. Returning to the topic and Trumps attempt to convert the NFL players message and fan flames of misguided patriotism against the NFL organization is purely a direct result of his sound defeat and subsequent humiliation by the exclusive members-only club of NFL ownership. He is still pissed-off and by god, the NFL will pay... "In 1985, the USFL voted to move from a spring to a fall schedule in 1986 to compete directly with the NFL. This was done at the urging of New Jersey Generals majority owner Donald Trump and a handful of other owners as a way to force a merger between the leagues. As part of this strategy, the USFL filed an anti-trust lawsuit against the National Football League in 1986, and a jury ruled that the NFL had violated anti-monopoly laws. However, in a victory in name only, the USFL was awarded a judgment of just $1, which under anti-trust laws, was tripled to $3.[2] This court decision effectively ended the USFL. The league never played the 1986 season, and by the time it folded, it had lost over US$163 million" source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Football_League Just my $0.02 The more I think about it, the more I think this is dead-on accurate."There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil1111 1,149 #217 October 15, 2017 ryoder******Interested in everyone's thoughts. I'm of the opinion that none of Mr. Trump's feigned indignation has anything to do with a song, a flag, soldiers, and certainly not the black athletes. I'll get back to this. He is attempting to destroy your latest national health insurance program nicknamed after his predecessor not because he thinks it's faulty - he just wants to eliminate all record of a man who publicly made fun of him at the WH correspondents dinner. He fired the FBI Director not because he was incompetent, but because Comey had dared stand up to him. The encyclopedic volume of people he has taken hateful and derogatory shots at via Twitter firmly establishes he thinks and behaves no better than a pathetically resentful grade-school bully. If somebody rejects him, he will get even. Even if it takes decades. Returning to the topic and Trumps attempt to convert the NFL players message and fan flames of misguided patriotism against the NFL organization is purely a direct result of his sound defeat and subsequent humiliation by the exclusive members-only club of NFL ownership. He is still pissed-off and by god, the NFL will pay... "In 1985, the USFL voted to move from a spring to a fall schedule in 1986 to compete directly with the NFL. This was done at the urging of New Jersey Generals majority owner Donald Trump and a handful of other owners as a way to force a merger between the leagues. As part of this strategy, the USFL filed an anti-trust lawsuit against the National Football League in 1986, and a jury ruled that the NFL had violated anti-monopoly laws. However, in a victory in name only, the USFL was awarded a judgment of just $1, which under anti-trust laws, was tripled to $3.[2] This court decision effectively ended the USFL. The league never played the 1986 season, and by the time it folded, it had lost over US$163 million" source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Football_League Just my $0.02 The more I think about it, the more I think this is dead-on accurate. Wellll I don't know about that. trump has never indicated a interest in sports for the sake of sport. I think its just a way to hobnob with other rich owners. Jerry Jones, Robert Craft, etc. His comments about "smash mouth football", etc. show a poor understanding of where the game is today. There are enough injuries on a game to game basis without his nutty ideas. IMO its just another way to appeal to his base, to distract, to bully and get even with those who stand up..er kneel to take a poke at him. I agree with everything you said with he exception of the bold type last section. I'm sure he would love to own a NFL team. He was probably pissed off at his court loss. But that was just a hail mary pass to try to save a loosing league. The award that the court gave the plaintiffs was right on. Other leagues have tried to do the same thing as a way to dilute the brand. To get a team without paying the franchise fee. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #218 December 31, 2017 Federal court rules HS football player can’t be forced to stand during anthem http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/366885-federal-court-rules-hs-football-player-cant-be-forced-to-stand"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 798 #219 December 31, 2017 It's still laughable that some people think others they disagree with don't have the same constitutional rights simply because of a difference of opinions or because of simple racism. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfriverjoe 1,523 #220 December 31, 2017 normissIt's still laughable that some people think others they disagree with don't have the same constitutional rights simply because of a difference of opinions or because of simple racism. Isn't that what the entire protest is about?"There are NO situations which do not call for a French Maid outfit." Lucky McSwervy "~ya don't GET old by being weak & stupid!" - Airtwardo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 798 #221 December 31, 2017 It's in protest of the racial oppression of blacks and others of color, with a focus on the murder of innocents by cops who get paid vacations for murdering innocent people of color. So, yeah, I suppose it is. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 2,190 #222 November 27, 2020 The US National team collectively takes a knee. Solidarity forever! https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/27/us/uswnt-black-lives-matter-jerseys-spt-trnd/index.html Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
