mdrejhon 8 #26 July 7, 2006 I prefer landing in strong steady stable wind (vertical landing) than medium turbulent wind (where my canopy feels like it's about to collapse). If it's a dropzone with lots of grassy areas surrounding it, and it's stable wind, I don't mind landing vertically. I crabbed my way to a backwards peas landing on my eighth jump... (Winds picked up after the plane went up...) I've become much more nervous of turbulence... Turbulence at 50 feet is no laughing matter when it's strong enough to change the direction of my flying. I should add I am presently sticking to a big boat of a Sabre 170 and know how to collapse it quickly. Never been dragged. I know it is not really a big boat, but after jumping it 100 times, and being laughed about it already occasionally, it is a big boat to them now. And I've grounded myself if the winds might yield a backwards landing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reginald 0 #27 July 7, 2006 QuoteAhh.. Beauty of the internet is almost anything is cached. Here are the wind conditions for a location only 5 miles away for the day in question. Well, remember the jumper himself stated "Winds were 11 to18 with gusts to around20-22." and that he was "flying and landing backwards” so don't shoot me for thinking he was telling the truth about the conditions. Regardless of if it was a USPA DZ or not if the winds were hitting 22 he should not have been jumping as a matter of common sense both by him (who should have read a SIM by the time he was out of AFF, USPA DZ or not) and by his instructors. I know students are hard to keep on the ground regardless of weather conditions but the student himself says "I WAS advised that I probably should not jump. MY poor decision" I’m glad the winds may not have been as high as the student initially claimed but I still wonder why he was going backwards, while landing off, why he was advised not to jump and why he did anyway. Long story short I'm tired of seeing people jumping in winds they shouldn't be jumping in and breaking themselves. A simple tib/fib is a 6 month layoff. It is much better to miss a few jumps than a whole season. I know plenty of non-uspa DZ's that are excellent establishments and very safety conscious and some USPA DZ’s that aren't. Regardless, I really am sick and tired of people making bad decisions about winds and getting hurt. I haven't been in the sport very long and I can't count how many people I know that have been injured jumping in too high of winds; dozens at least. It is possibly the single biggest cause of injury I know of in the sport and such and easy one to address! Stop the madness! Okay, rant off…flame away…."We've been looking for the enemy for some time now. We've finally found him. We're surrounded. That simplifies things." CP Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AFFI 0 #28 July 7, 2006 Easy solution - downwind every landing... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wildman2231 0 #29 July 10, 2006 Sorry I wasn't more specific. 18 to 22 was at 12k. ground was like 11 to 15 and variable. Guess it would be wise to add these figures to my log from now on,instead of just looking at the board at the DZ. Wind speeds are always posted for ground,3,6,9 and 1200'feet,respectively. Hmmm, Thanks,something I should log from now on!P.S.Thanks for double checking me phreezone! Look forward to see'in ya at the DZ. Maybe a little vid for a lift ticket?I'm fine...crazy people don't know they're crazy...No,Really! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
