ryoder 1,590 #1 April 17, 2018 I've been waiting for the NTSB prelim to be posted, which appeared today. It was an Embry-Riddle Piper PA28R flying the pattern with with an examiner and examinee, when the left wing broke off! The plane was only a little over 10 years old. News article: http://www.news-journalonline.com/news/20180404/2-killed-in-erau-training-flight-plane-crash-west-of-daytona-beach NTSB prelim: https://app.ntsb.gov/pdfgenerator/ReportGeneratorFile.ashx?EventID=20180404X13226&AKey=1&RType=HTML&IType=FA So at the end of the prelim, it sounds like the plane had been overstressed."There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggerrob 643 #2 April 18, 2018 A few hard landings are enough to start cracks in the airframe. Combine that with thousands of cycles during training flights, it is little wonder that trainers don’t fall apart more often! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil1111 1,149 #3 April 18, 2018 Do you think there is a reason why the x-training 9-10k hour C-172's with the nice G1000 panels sell so cheap? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sffudapparel 0 #4 April 18, 2018 One of my flight instructors mentioned that a low wing aircraft with landing gear on the wings, will receive much more stress than say a high wing aircraft with gear on the fuselage (ex 172). I've been flying a Piper Cherokee for most of my PPL training flights, but also have some time in a 152 trainer as well. Still sad to see. A few years back I lost a student pilot friend in Ohio as well.Dream my life, live my dream Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
akjmpplt 0 #5 April 19, 2018 And you never know what the guy before you did with/to the airplane.SmugMug Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bob_Church 7 #6 April 19, 2018 akjmppltAnd you never know what the guy before you did with/to the airplane. My first brother in law took flying lessons for awhile. One time his instructor couldn't make it but he was doing solos then so his instructor, over the phone, told him to practice some 90s. When Junior was returning the plane the guy asked him how it went. Junior said not so good, he could get it to about 80 degrees when it would shake and shudder so much that he couldn't get it any steeper. The had to pull it from the line for inspection. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #7 April 19, 2018 "There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 34 #8 April 19, 2018 This site needs the ability to post animated GIFs... "Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,452 #9 April 19, 2018 Quote This site needs the ability to post animated GIFs... Just look at Cornholio's gif -- no, we don't Wendy P.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
