jakee 1,489 #401 October 13, 2018 RonD1120You do not understand what backchannel comm means. What do you think it means. QuoteAnd yes, I do know something about Special Operations. Do you think that gives credibility to anything else you say?Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #402 October 13, 2018 normissTruth no longer exists in some people's minds. Something we agree on."America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,990 #403 October 13, 2018 >You provide references that I have never heard of. How do you find them? Via back channel comm. The original claim was on a Qanon Youtube video. >For that matter, how do you search the SC for specific post quotes.? I run a search and >get hundreds by a specific poster and they are not in chronological order. You can click the option that says Sort Posts By: Relevance (or) Post Time. That returns the results in chronological order. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #404 October 14, 2018 billvon>You provide references that I have never heard of. How do you find them? Via back channel comm. The original claim was on a Qanon Youtube video. >For that matter, how do you search the SC for specific post quotes.? I run a search and >get hundreds by a specific poster and they are not in chronological order. You can click the option that says Sort Posts By: Relevance (or) Post Time. That returns the results in chronological order. Thank you. BTW: There is a well detailed independent documentary about Pizzagate on YouTube. The creator connects the dots without making accusations. I was going to post the link but thought it might violate the rules regarding child abuse and pedophilia. Do you have any advice?Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 2,190 #405 October 14, 2018 QuoteDo you have any advice? I know you are not asking me. But here goes with advice anyway. The whole "pizzagate" thing is just disgusting. The more anyone talks about it as if there is even a shred of a possibility it could be real, the less I and most other people think of them as decent human beings. Seriously, the fascination with this matter is just plain horrible.Always remember the brave children who died defending your right to bear arms. Freedom is not free. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,720 #406 October 14, 2018 RonD1120***>You provide references that I have never heard of. How do you find them? Via back channel comm. The original claim was on a Qanon Youtube video. >For that matter, how do you search the SC for specific post quotes.? I run a search and >get hundreds by a specific poster and they are not in chronological order. You can click the option that says Sort Posts By: Relevance (or) Post Time. That returns the results in chronological order. Thank you. BTW: There is a well detailed independent documentary about Pizzagate on YouTube. The creator connects the dots without making accusations. I was going to post the link but thought it might violate the rules regarding child abuse and pedophilia. Do you have any advice? Ron, Like Ken, I'll also offer you some unsolicited advice. Take a note pad and write down the things you believe to be true: Qanon, Pizzagate and so on. Arrange the things in two columns; the belief in one column and how long it took you to be convinced it was truth in the other. Now consider it as if you were counseling another. What you have is not a simple, innocent affinity for the implausible. What you have is an addiction. You are addicted to delusion. The crazy theory is your drug of choice, the delusion is your high. Don't wait until, like Edgar Welch, you shoot the lock off the door. Get yourself some help now. Joe Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfriverjoe 1,523 #407 October 14, 2018 RonD1120 Thank you. BTW: There is a well detailed independent documentary about Pizzagate on YouTube. The creator connects the dots without making accusations. I was going to post the link but thought it might violate the rules regarding child abuse and pedophilia. Do you have any advice? Seriously? A 'detailed and independent documentary' claiming that HRC and the dems have a child sex ring centered around a restaurant? I've actually heard those claims going back to the 90s. Not necessarily any particular politician or party, but that the 'elite' enslave young girls, impregnate them and then sacrifice the babies. Most of the claims were made by people with significant mental issues. None provided any proof. They always claimed that the 'elite' (Illuminati, Rothschilds, ect) would silence anyone who brought it up. Also, go ahead and link it. The rules are pretty straightforward. No jokes about child abuse, child porn or pedophilia. Serious, straightforward discussion is well within the rules."There are NO situations which do not call for a French Maid outfit." Lucky McSwervy "~ya don't GET old by being weak & stupid!" - Airtwardo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,990 #408 October 14, 2018 >Do you have any advice? You can discuss the crime of pedophilia in a factual manner all you like. The rule you are referring to bans jokes about it. (And I will also delete any promotion of pedophilia or child abuse.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jcd11235 0 #409 October 14, 2018 RonD1120… Just to name a few. Apparently much has improved with counseling since 1973. All I have to go off of is the questionable (to be generous) content that spews from your keyboard, which you tend to justify with your extensive counseling experience.Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #410 October 14, 2018 gowlerkQuoteDo you have any advice? I know you are not asking me. But here goes with advice anyway. The whole "pizzagate" thing is just disgusting. The more anyone talks about it as if there is even a shred of a possibility it could be real, the less I and most other people think of them as decent human beings. Seriously, the fascination with this matter is just plain horrible. I was actually just looking for a rules clarification from billvon. In retrospect, I agree with you. The subject would not go anywhere beneficial and should be avoided in this forum. Thanks for the input.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #411 October 14, 2018 JoeWeber******>You provide references that I have never heard of. How do you find them? Via back channel comm. The original claim was on a Qanon Youtube video. >For that matter, how do you search the SC for specific post quotes.? I run a search and >get hundreds by a specific poster and they are not in chronological order. You can click the option that says Sort Posts By: Relevance (or) Post Time. That returns the results in chronological order. Thank you. BTW: There is a well detailed independent documentary about Pizzagate on YouTube. The creator connects the dots without making accusations. I was going to post the link but thought it might violate the rules regarding child abuse and pedophilia. Do you have any advice? Ron, Like Ken, I'll also offer you some unsolicited advice. Take a note pad and write down the things you believe to be true: Qanon, Pizzagate and so on. Arrange the things in two columns; the belief in one column and how long it took you to be convinced it was truth in the other. Now consider it as if you were counseling another. What you have is not a simple, innocent affinity for the implausible. What you have is an addiction. You are addicted to delusion. The crazy theory is your drug of choice, the delusion is your high. Don't wait until, like Edgar Welch, you shoot the lock off the door. Get yourself some help now. Joe Thank you for your concern. I am not going to follow the subject here. As a side note, do you know how many people it takes to validate an individual's psychological frame of reference? The answer is only one if that person is a trusted friend. Once validation has been accepted a multitude of opposing opinions are not likely alter the individual's perspective.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #412 October 14, 2018 billvon>Do you have any advice? You can discuss the crime of pedophilia in a factual manner all you like. The rule you are referring to bans jokes about it. (And I will also delete any promotion of pedophilia or child abuse.) Thanks, I am not going to pursue the subject.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 2,190 #413 October 14, 2018 QuoteIn retrospect, I agree with you. The subject would not go anywhere beneficial and should be avoided in this forum. While it's nice that you acknowledge that much, some of your earlier posts leave the impression that you feel that there is a possibility of some basis in fact around the "pizza gate" bundle of lies. Do you now agree that the whole thing was a falsehood?Always remember the brave children who died defending your right to bear arms. Freedom is not free. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfriverjoe 1,523 #414 October 14, 2018 gowlerkQuoteIn retrospect, I agree with you. The subject would not go anywhere beneficial and should be avoided in this forum. While it's nice that you acknowledge that much, some of your earlier posts leave the impression that you feel that there is a possibility of some basis in fact around the "pizza gate" bundle of lies. Do you now agree that the whole thing was a falsehood? No. Read his post about the one trusted friend validating an opinion that then becomes almost impossible to change. Gonna guess that he knows perfectly well that we would take his 'documentary' and take it apart claim by claim. He doesn't want his "facts" challenged, so he withdraws the claim. Google "YouTube pizzagate documentary" and you will find a bunch of them. No clue which one he thinks is 'accurate', but take a quick look at a couple of them, and read the comments. Reminds me a lot of the "Loose Change" 9/11 crap or the "Fake Moon Landing" garbage. P.T. Barnum was right."There are NO situations which do not call for a French Maid outfit." Lucky McSwervy "~ya don't GET old by being weak & stupid!" - Airtwardo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,489 #415 October 14, 2018 RonD1120***QuoteDo you have any advice? I know you are not asking me. But here goes with advice anyway. The whole "pizzagate" thing is just disgusting. The more anyone talks about it as if there is even a shred of a possibility it could be real, the less I and most other people think of them as decent human beings. Seriously, the fascination with this matter is just plain horrible. I was actually just looking for a rules clarification from billvon. In retrospect, I agree with you. Just so we’re clear, you agree that anyone who says there’s reason to think Pizzagate might be real is disgusting?Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #416 October 14, 2018 gowlerkQuoteIn retrospect, I agree with you. The subject would not go anywhere beneficial and should be avoided in this forum. While it's nice that you acknowledge that much, some of your earlier posts leave the impression that you feel that there is a possibility of some basis in fact around the "pizza gate" bundle of lies. Do you now agree that the whole thing was a falsehood? NoLook for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lippy 918 #417 October 14, 2018 RonD1120***QuoteIn retrospect, I agree with you. The subject would not go anywhere beneficial and should be avoided in this forum. While it's nice that you acknowledge that much, some of your earlier posts leave the impression that you feel that there is a possibility of some basis in fact around the "pizza gate" bundle of lies. Do you now agree that the whole thing was a falsehood? No Do you subscribe to the whole conspiracy? Do you think there may be nuggets of truth here and there? Or do you just think Leftists are evil so there must be something to it? I'm just trying to understand the rationale behind somebody getting on this bandwagon.I got nuthin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #418 October 15, 2018 lippy******QuoteIn retrospect, I agree with you. The subject would not go anywhere beneficial and should be avoided in this forum. While it's nice that you acknowledge that much, some of your earlier posts leave the impression that you feel that there is a possibility of some basis in fact around the "pizza gate" bundle of lies. Do you now agree that the whole thing was a falsehood? No Do you subscribe to the whole conspiracy? Do you think there may be nuggets of truth here and there? Or do you just think Leftists are evil so there must be something to it? I'm just trying to understand the rationale behind somebody getting on this bandwagon. I go with nuggets of truth.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,444 #419 October 15, 2018 There are nuggets of truth in EVERY story or narrative. Whether it’s about pizzagate, or that Donald Trump is a criminal, there are nuggets of truth. The job is a responsible adult is to evaluate the package. You can consider the source, but dang — my mother told me about the Easter Bunny and the Good Fairy (Santa Clause was kind of a nonstarter because we had presents under the tree the whole time, and opened them Christmas Eve). The source is not everything. Wendy P.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,720 #420 October 15, 2018 RonD1120*********>You provide references that I have never heard of. How do you find them? Via back channel comm. The original claim was on a Qanon Youtube video. >For that matter, how do you search the SC for specific post quotes.? I run a search and >get hundreds by a specific poster and they are not in chronological order. You can click the option that says Sort Posts By: Relevance (or) Post Time. That returns the results in chronological order. Thank you. BTW: There is a well detailed independent documentary about Pizzagate on YouTube. The creator connects the dots without making accusations. I was going to post the link but thought it might violate the rules regarding child abuse and pedophilia. Do you have any advice? Ron, Like Ken, I'll also offer you some unsolicited advice. Take a note pad and write down the things you believe to be true: Qanon, Pizzagate and so on. Arrange the things in two columns; the belief in one column and how long it took you to be convinced it was truth in the other. Now consider it as if you were counseling another. What you have is not a simple, innocent affinity for the implausible. What you have is an addiction. You are addicted to delusion. The crazy theory is your drug of choice, the delusion is your high. Don't wait until, like Edgar Welch, you shoot the lock off the door. Get yourself some help now. Joe Thank you for your concern. I am not going to follow the subject here. As a side note, do you know how many people it takes to validate an individual's psychological frame of reference? The answer is only one if that person is a trusted friend. Once validation has been accepted a multitude of opposing opinions are not likely alter the individual's perspective. QuoteAs a side note, do you know how many people it takes to validate an individual's psychological frame of reference? The answer is only one if that person is a trusted friend. As in: Bonnie and Clyde Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid Frank and Jesse James The Lonely Hearts Killers William Burke & William Hare Leopold and Loeb Julius and Ethel Rosenberg The Menendez Brothers The Columbine Killers The DC Snipers Ron and Marc? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 2,190 #421 October 15, 2018 RonD1120***QuoteIn retrospect, I agree with you. The subject would not go anywhere beneficial and should be avoided in this forum. While it's nice that you acknowledge that much, some of your earlier posts leave the impression that you feel that there is a possibility of some basis in fact around the "pizza gate" bundle of lies. Do you now agree that the whole thing was a falsehood? No I understand that this slander is about people you detest. And that within your social group it would be acceptable to speak loudly and proudly of such things to reinforce each other. But we are speaking of our fellow human beings here, and accusing them of some of the most horrific behaviors that can be imagined. I frankly am disappointed that the Holy Spirit has not yet visited you to let you know that this is going too far in your hatred.Always remember the brave children who died defending your right to bear arms. Freedom is not free. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 798 #422 October 15, 2018 The voices seem to only tell him what he wants to hear and believes. Completely dismissive of factual truth. It's troubling to know there are people that think like this. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 2,190 #423 October 15, 2018 QuoteThere are nuggets of truth in EVERY story or narrative. Whether it’s about pizza gate, or that Donald Trump is a criminal, there are nuggets of truth. Well, it is true that there is a restaurant that serves pizza there. And that people eat there. As far as I know those are the only nuggets of truth in this story. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pizzagate_conspiracy_theory There is absolutely no reason to believe any of the criminal allegations in this putrid conspiracy story. None. Not even nuggets. It is a very upsetting example of bearing false witness.Always remember the brave children who died defending your right to bear arms. Freedom is not free. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,720 #424 October 15, 2018 RonD1120*********QuoteIn retrospect, I agree with you. The subject would not go anywhere beneficial and should be avoided in this forum. While it's nice that you acknowledge that much, some of your earlier posts leave the impression that you feel that there is a possibility of some basis in fact around the "pizza gate" bundle of lies. Do you now agree that the whole thing was a falsehood? No Do you subscribe to the whole conspiracy? Do you think there may be nuggets of truth here and there? Or do you just think Leftists are evil so there must be something to it? I'm just trying to understand the rationale behind somebody getting on this bandwagon. I go with nuggets of truth. Except for when you pull Jaybird out of mothballs to argue your defense who here thinks your imaginings are founded in reality? You seriously need to think about how quickly and readily you believe things like Qanon and Pizzagate and what it say's about your state of mind. You don't believe weird shit based on nuggets, man. All you did was say out loud that you don't care about truth or facts. Nope, you just want your paranoid suspicions validated. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,489 #425 October 15, 2018 RonD1120*********QuoteIn retrospect, I agree with you. The subject would not go anywhere beneficial and should be avoided in this forum. While it's nice that you acknowledge that much, some of your earlier posts leave the impression that you feel that there is a possibility of some basis in fact around the "pizza gate" bundle of lies. Do you now agree that the whole thing was a falsehood? No Do you subscribe to the whole conspiracy? Do you think there may be nuggets of truth here and there? Or do you just think Leftists are evil so there must be something to it? I'm just trying to understand the rationale behind somebody getting on this bandwagon. I go with nuggets of truth. Like what? What nuggets are we talking about?Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites