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Phil1111

Should trump Apologize to Africa for Comments?

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CygnusX-1

Why would you single out Africa? There are plenty of "shithole" countries out there that are not in Africa...



Well.

1. As per the original post the African Union has demanded an apology.

2. Since you used the term that trump used. The one trump used in reference and context to Black immigrants.
African immigrants are more educated than most — including people born in U.S.

[url]http://www.latimes.com/world/africa/la-fg-global-african-immigrants-explainer-20180112-story.html


As such, the above study shows that 16% of African immigrants have masters degrees. While the orange bigot only has a bachelor's degree(Wharton). From which one of his professors stated that he was one of the dumbest students he has ever met. Given his propensity for stupidity. This only confirms that at least 16% of African immigrants are likely smarter than the idiot-in-chief.

3. The reaction from republican senators has been ....crickets. Yet trump himself phoned his usual base of supporters and consultants. Which only confirmed his views and opinions. Flush with ignorance on the issues.

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So far:

Dick Durbin (D) claims he said "shithole." Lindsey Graham (R) said that Durbin's report was "basically accurate.”

Trump denies it. "The language used by me at the DACA meeting was tough, but this was not the language used."

Tom Cotton (R) at first couldn't remember. He could "not recall the president saying those comments specifically." But later his memory got better. "I'm telling you he did not use that word, George, and I'm telling you it's a gross misrepresentation."

Graham claims that Cotton is full of shit. "My memory hasn't evolved. I know what was said and I know what I said."

Finally the White House gave up on the denials. "Look, the president hasn't said he didn't use strong language. And this is an important issue. He's passionate about it. He's not going to apologize for trying to fix our immigration system. He's committed to doing that and hopefully Democrats will be too."

Trump's problem with lying is that he can't even keep the lies straight.

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normiss

Makes you wonder how he explained 2 porn stars to Melania.



Melania knew what she was doing when she agreed to be a billionaire's trophy wife.
Always remember the brave children who died defending your right to bear arms. Freedom is not free.

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>Makes you wonder how he explained 2 porn stars to Melania.

"I was just interviewing babysitters for our son! What, don't you want the best for our baby?"

What I wonder is whether he deducted the $130,000 he used to hush the porn star he had the affair with. Business expense? Perhaps as entertainment. You need to take every possible deduction if you want to pay no taxes, after all.

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‘No Vacancies’ for Blacks: How Donald Trump Got His Start, and Was First Accused of Bias
AUG. 27, 2016

...The Justice Department undertook its own investigation and, in 1973, sued Trump Management for discriminating against blacks. Both Fred Trump, the company’s chairman, and Donald Trump, its president, were named as defendants. It was front-page news, and for Donald, amounted to his debut in the public eye....

drawing on decades-old files from the New York City Commission on Human Rights, internal Justice Department records, court documents and interviews with tenants, civil rights activists and prosecutors — uncovered a long history of racial bias at his family’s properties, in New York and beyond....

Mr. Leibowitz was called to testify at the commission’s hearing on Ms. Brown’s case. Asked to estimate how many blacks lived in Mr. Trump’s various properties, he remembered replying: “To the best of my knowledge, none.”

After the hearing, Ms. Brown was offered an apartment in the Wilshire, and in the spring of 1964, she moved in. For 10 years, she said, she was the only African-American in the building.

Complaints about the Trump organization’s rental policies continued to mount: By 1967, state investigators found that out of some 3,700 apartments in Trump Village, seven were occupied by African-American families....

Like Ms. Brown, the few minorities who did live in Trump-owned buildings often had to force their way in.

A black woman named Agnes Bunn recalled hearing in early 1970 about a vacant Trump apartment in another part of Queens, from a white friend who lived in the building. But when she went by, she was told there were no vacancies.

“The super came out and stood there until I left the property,” Ms. Bunn said....

The complaints of discrimination were not limited to New York.

In 1969, a young black couple, Haywood and Rennell Cash, sued after being denied a home in Cincinnati at one of the first projects in which Donald Trump, fresh out of college, played an active role.

Mr. Cash was repeatedly rejected by the Trumps’ rental agent, according to court records and notes kept by Housing Opportunities Made Equal of Cincinnati, which sent in white testers posing as a young couple while Mr. Cash waited in the car.

After the agent, Irving Wolper, offered the testers an apartment, they brought in Mr. Cash. Mr. Wolper grew furious, shoving them out of the office and calling the young female tester, Maggie Durham, a “nigger-lover,” according to court records.

“To this day I have not forgotten the fury in his voice and in his face,” Ms. Durham recalled recently, adding that she also remembered him calling her a “traitor to the race.”...

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/28/us/politics/donald-trump-housing-race.html


Five Decades of White Backlash
President Trump is the embodiment of over 50 years of resistance to the policies Martin Luther King Jr. fought to enact.


Racism and Donald Trump: a common thread throughout his career and life

Trump branched out from residential real estate into the casino business in the 1980s. Employees revealed a pattern of racism. In a tell-all book, former president of the Trump Plaza Casino John O’Donnell said Trump once told him: “Black guys counting my money! I hate it. The only kind of people I want counting my money are short guys that wear yarmulkes every day.”

Another former Trump employee told the New Yorker that black staff were hidden from Trump when he visited the casino with his wife. “When Donald and Ivana came to the casino, the bosses would order all the black people off the floor,” said Kip Brown.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/jan/12/racism-and-donald-trump-a-common-thread-throughout-his-career-and-life

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I was born on the African continent and lived there most of my life, I'm as African as most DZcommers are American.
I regard Trump's comment as being objectively offensive although I'm not offended by it because I'm sufficiently secure in my identity and I consider the source.

Would an apology really give anyone satisfaction ? It's not going to change Trump's mindset on anything, he'll just be more careful in future regarding who he shares an honest opinion with.
An apology in this context would be akin to "I'm sorry those comments were made public" because nobody would believe anything more sincere.

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headoverheels

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Should have been " I'll bet that I can make 2 billion people say shithole in the next week."

trumpateers have singled out CNN while their own FOX refused to air a story on trumps porn star payoff just before the election. Rather than debating the facts. CNN has become the new favorite whipping boy for Fox, Breitbart and trump apologists.
https://www.gq.com/story/fox-news-trump-pornstar

Absolutely rest assured America will pay for trump. Sooner or later.
World media struggle to translate Trump’s ‘shithole’ insult
https://www.timesofisrael.com/world-media-struggle-to-translate-trumps-shithole-insult/

U.S. Global Image Takes Another Hit Under Trump
https://www.usnews.com/news/best-countries/articles/2017-11-16/us-global-image-takes-another-hit-under-donald-trump-in-international-ranking

Many trump supporters have the idea that the whole world wants to come to the US. The backhand message being good, if more Africans, Arabs, Muslims hate the US because of trump. Then maybe less will want to emigrate. It fits their narrative. Of ignorance.

China moves up, while US is hobbled by Trump
http://www.standard.net/National-Commentary/2017/11/06/China-moves-up-while-US-is-hobbled-by-Trump

Today's two superpowers are coming from different directions. President Xi, consolidating his hold, probably is the most powerful Chinese leader since Mao Zedong. It's not just talk when he proclaims China is taking "center stage" in the world, replacing American influence on Asia and filling a leadership void in much of the rest of the world.

"China is more confident today than anytime in its modern history," notes Tom Donilon, national security adviser to Barack Obama and an Asia expert.

Despite all of America's economic and military power, it's a weakened president who arrived in Asia this weekend. Trump is more unpopular than any previous president at this juncture; neither he nor the U.S. command respect from many countries, and he is besieged by problems at home, especially a wide-ranging criminal investigation of his campaign and possibly him. None of that disappears because he's 10,000 miles away.

"Trump is not going in with a strong hand," says Graham Allison, the Harvard professor and former national security official who wrote a book on the potential conflict between the two countries. "He may not know that."

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>"Trump is not going in with a strong hand," says Graham Allison, the Harvard professor and
>former national security official who wrote a book on the potential conflict between the two
>countries. "He may not know that."

That's . . . probably a pretty safe bet.

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metalslug

I was born on the African continent and lived there most of my life, I'm as African as most DZcommers are American.



I still live on the African continent, and I find the hypocrisy of this thread beyond measure.

Do a search for the word "shithole" in this forum.......



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Saying that a place is a shithole is not racist. Saying you don't want immigrants from those places implies that the people are also shitty.

As usual, Trump doesn't come out and say what he means. He leaves enough wiggle room to let he apologists squeeze in and do what they do best.

- Dan G

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Phil1111

That being the operators of his Atlantic City casino's had to hide black staff from trump and Ivanka when they came to visit his casino.

Impossible. That stable genius is the least racist person ever. Just ask him. And he has a black friend!

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