gowlerk 2,249 #1 January 19, 2018 He had a nice run of making the church appear to be a little more respectable. But now he's decided enough is enough. It's time to blame the victims. Like people in power always try to do. http://time.com/5109212/pope-francis-sexual-abuse-chile-barros-karadima/?xid=homepage Just another damned priest.Always remember the brave children who died defending your right to bear arms. Freedom is not free. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
winsor 236 #2 January 19, 2018 gowlerk He had a nice run of making the church appear to be a little more respectable. But now he's decided enough is enough. It's time to blame the victims. Like people in power always try to do. http://time.com/5109212/pope-francis-sexual-abuse-chile-barros-karadima/?xid=homepage Just another damned priest. South Park's "Red Hot Catholic Love" episode had it nailed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #3 January 19, 2018 Really??? Of all the issues on which he could take the wrong side, he chose that one??? "There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,563 #4 January 19, 2018 Quote Just another damned priest. Is it any real surprise? He might seem like a breath of fresh air compared to the last one but at the end of the day, you don't get to be Chief of a backwards, reactionary, mysoginistic, totalitarian institution governed by a 1500 year old byzantine bureaucracy without accepting many of those traits.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 2,249 #5 January 19, 2018 jakee Quote Just another damned priest. Is it any real surprise? He might seem like a breath of fresh air compared to the last one but at the end of the day, you don't get to be Chief of a backwards, reactionary, mysoginistic, totalitarian institution governed by a 1500 year old byzantine bureaucracy without accepting many of those traits. No, not a surprise. The only really surprising this is that he was able to more or less hide his nature from public view for so long. He is a Jesuit, they are generally very disciplined men.Always remember the brave children who died defending your right to bear arms. Freedom is not free. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil1111 1,149 #6 January 19, 2018 ryoder Really??? Of all the issues on which he could take the wrong side, he chose that one??? Be it Buddhists ethnically cleansing the Rohingya, Sunni vr Shia followers of Islam, Catholics, Evangelical Christians, TV evangelicals in the US. They all sail in the same boat of hypocrisy. The crusades started 800 years ago, nothings changed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,534 #7 January 20, 2018 A member of his family was finally attacked. Lots of people are fiercely loyal when what they consider their family is attacked. Remember the support for skydivers convicted of offenses: but he was always a good guy." The pope is human too. Wrong, too. Wendy P.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 2,249 #8 January 20, 2018 wmw999 A member of his family was finally attacked. Lots of people are fiercely loyal when what they consider their family is attacked. Remember the support for skydivers convicted of offenses: but he was always a good guy." The pope is human too. Wrong, too. Wendy P. I understand that loyalty Wendy. But it completely overlooks the fact that the attack is coming from parishioners. They are supposed to be the heart of the family. Priests are supposed to serve. Catholic priests have a nasty habit of only serving themselves and each other. Innocent children? They can be sacrificed for the church without batting an eye.Always remember the brave children who died defending your right to bear arms. Freedom is not free. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,534 #9 January 21, 2018 I agree completely he's dead wrong on this one. Loyalty s h wouldn't get in the way condoning y our job. Especially Herr. Wendy P.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bob_Church 7 #10 January 21, 2018 ryoder Really??? Of all the issues on which he could take the wrong side, he chose that one??? Yeh, but he did send Karadima, the pedophile priest who messed up all those lives, to his room. When the Pope decides to punish someone he really brings the hammer down. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites