Police shoot ‘hero’ security guard in Chicago

[yoink 321]

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-46187460

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After gunfire erupted around 04:00 local time on Sunday, Jemel Roberson [the armed security guard at the bar], 26, chased down an attacker and knelt on his back until police arrived.
Moments after police came on the scene, an officer opened fire on Roberson, who was black, killing him.

How the hell are these people trained??

[RonD1120 62]

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https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-46187460

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After gunfire erupted around 04:00 local time on Sunday, Jemel Roberson [the armed security guard at the bar], 26, chased down an attacker and knelt on his back until police arrived.
Moments after police came on the scene, an officer opened fire on Roberson, who was black, killing him.

How the hell are these people trained??

This is the reason I and my partners in security at our church wear a large SECURITY tag when on duty.

If something bad is going down and LE shows up they are looking for threats, not allies. Allies must be quickly identified.

Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

[BIGUN 1,399]

How extreme is your church that it needs security guards with large patches?

Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard.

[normiss 848]

Security!
Cleanup on Pew 3!

[wolfriverjoe 1,523]

BIGUN

How extreme is your church that it needs security guards with large patches?

They are afraid of Muslim extremist terrorists coming in and trying to kill them all.

Ron has said that he feels this will actually happen.

"There are NO situations which do not call for a French Maid outfit." Lucky McSwervy

"~ya don't GET old by being weak & stupid!" - Airtwardo

[gowlerk 2,249]

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https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-46187460

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After gunfire erupted around 04:00 local time on Sunday, Jemel Roberson [the armed security guard at the bar], 26, chased down an attacker and knelt on his back until police arrived.
Moments after police came on the scene, an officer opened fire on Roberson, who was black, killing him.

How the hell are these people trained??

This is what can happen when nearly everyone is armed and the police need to be afraid. In other countries bar fights don't feature firearms so bouncers don't have to be armed.

Always remember the brave children who died defending your right to bear arms. Freedom is not free.

[ryoder 1,590]

wolfriverjoe

***How extreme is your church that it needs security guards with large patches?

They are afraid of Muslim extremist terrorists coming in and trying to kill them all.

Ron has said that he feels this will actually happen.

Of course if you look at what actually happens in the US, you will see that it is far more likely that a church shooting will be a white guy shooting up a synagogue, mosque, or black church.

"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones.

[RonD1120 62]

BIGUN

How extreme is your church that it needs security guards with large patches?

Following the shootout of the small church in Texas, one of the churches in our area experienced an incident of moderate violence. We discussed and considered the situation and decided to have designated security personnel. Several other churches in our local area have done likewise.

Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

[ChrisD2.0 2]

gowlerk

***https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-46187460

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After gunfire erupted around 04:00 local time on Sunday, Jemel Roberson [the armed security guard at the bar], 26, chased down an attacker and knelt on his back until police arrived.
Moments after police came on the scene, an officer opened fire on Roberson, who was black, killing him.

How the hell are these people trained??

This is what can happen when nearly everyone is armed and the police need to be afraid. In other countries bar fights don't feature firearms so bouncers don't have to be armed.

THAT is an excellent point. Private security runs from untrained and heavily armed machine gun totin guards with no experience to plain clothes "detectives" at the mall to deter shoplifters.

We actually have machine gun toten guards at the entrance to our building, they stand right there next to the detectors. They have absolutely no experience whatsoever. Nor are they ex-military. I know of a mall cop who is retired from over 40 years of local law enforcement, and she is instructed to run, or walk away from any situation. And if she were to carry any firearm she would be fired.

What yo fail to mention was that the bouncer had a firearm in his hand pointing at the guys head.

Bouncers are not trained security guards. Trained security guards aren't even ever trained. Even when they say they are.

Cops don't wrestle with people with a gun in their hand, nor do they sit there on someone with a gun pointed at someone's head. (If they can help it.)

The police officer in this case will be exonerated. The public will go nuts. And people of color will go even more ballistic because they have lost the ability to reason. The media will frame this depending upon the demographic which are their customers. And the only real looser is the ever increasing gullible public standing there waiting to be told what to think. The only other real looser is the poor parents of these children with guns. On all sides.


Are the cops afraid as someone points out???? The cops are scared shitless, it's gone way PAST just being afraid. The cops are more like what you all saw in the first few mad max movies. It's a real us V them world right now.

Can't wait to read Joy AM,... can't wait for the gun discussion to start either.

bottom line: this is a result of failed liberal policies in our society.

You want America to be like Montreal? Start with a responsible and self aware populace, otherwise everyone is just wasting time. No wonder the Canadians think the way they do,...cause they are right.

Brett Bickford Did Not Commit Suicide.

He is the victim of ignorance and faulty gear. AND as in the movie: "12 Angry Men," of an ignorant and callous jury.

[gowlerk 2,249]

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bottom line: this is a result of failed liberal policies in our society.

No it isn't. It's the result of the error made in the 2nd Amendment. And the 2nd was largely the result of fear of slaves revolting.

Always remember the brave children who died defending your right to bear arms. Freedom is not free.

[NewGuy2005 53]

As I understand it, the guard was wearing a uniform which included a hat that had the word "security" on it. The bystanders allegedly shouted at the police that he was the security guard and not the perpetrator.

[jakee 1,559]

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people of color will go even more ballistic because they have lost the ability to reason.

Classy.

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bottom line: this is a result of failed liberal policies in our society.

Care to explain? Because that's a complete non-sequitur from the rest of your post.

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

[normiss 848]

I was a decently trained armed security guard for Wells Fargo many years ago....except all I secured were mafia owned warehouses.
I can't imagine ever raising that sidearm to any of the "visitors" that frequented the warehouse and kindly asked me to take a break while they worked. They sure moved a LOT of products through there.
Made some interesting friends too.

Helped pay for my motorcycle addiction when I was in the Navy in New Jersey.

[RonD1120 62]

gowlerk

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bottom line: this is a result of failed liberal policies in our society.

No it isn't. It's the result of the error made in the 2nd Amendment. And the 2nd was largely the result of fear of slaves revolting.

Only a progressive liberal would/could actually believe that especially a non-American.

SMH

Your are mistaken.

Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

[gowlerk 2,249]

RonD1120

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bottom line: this is a result of failed liberal policies in our society.

No it isn't. It's the result of the error made in the 2nd Amendment. And the 2nd was largely the result of fear of slaves revolting.

Only a progressive liberal would/could actually believe that especially a non-American.

SMH

Your are mistaken.


Alright, further research tells me that the danger of slave insurrection was only ever a minor point in the evolution of the 2nd.

Always remember the brave children who died defending your right to bear arms. Freedom is not free.

[RonD1120 62]

gowlerk

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bottom line: this is a result of failed liberal policies in our society.

No it isn't. It's the result of the error made in the 2nd Amendment. And the 2nd was largely the result of fear of slaves revolting.

Only a progressive liberal would/could actually believe that especially a non-American.

SMH

Your are mistaken.


Alright, further research tells me that the danger of slave insurrection was only ever a minor point in the evolution of the 2nd.

Bless you my son. Go and sin no more.

Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

[RMK 3]

RonD1120

***How extreme is your church that it needs security guards with large patches?

Following the shootout of the small church in Texas, one of the churches in our area experienced an incident of moderate violence. We discussed and considered the situation and decided to have designated security personnel. Several other churches in our local area have done likewise.

What do you do with your guns while snake handling or speaking in tongues?

"Pain is the best instructor, but no one wants to attend his classes"

[normiss 848]

Hopefully, they are checked into the security department and placed in a safe.

[Niki1 1]

These are the types of incidents that Kaepernick was protesting. Not disrespecting the flag or service members.

Most of the things worth doing in the world had been declared impossilbe before they were done.
Louis D Brandeis

Where are we going and why are we in this basket?

[billvon 3,064]

>And people of color will go even more ballistic because they have lost the ability to reason.

That's . . . quite racist of you. Reminiscent of the days when blacks were considered "naturally shiftless."

[SkyDekker 1,465]

This is quite the conundrum for the NRA. The "good guy with a gun" was black. That doesn't fit their narrative.

Wonder if they will start advocating gun control again, like they did when it came to The Black Panthers.

[billvon 3,064]

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This is the reason I and my partners in security at our church wear a large SECURITY tag when on duty. If something bad is going down and LE shows up they are looking for threats, not allies. Allies must be quickly identified.

He was wearing a hat that said SECURITY.

[gowlerk 2,249]

billvon

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This is the reason I and my partners in security at our church wear a large SECURITY tag when on duty. If something bad is going down and LE shows up they are looking for threats, not allies. Allies must be quickly identified.

He was wearing a hat that said SECURITY.

It's easy to identify a threat. He is large and has dark skin.

Always remember the brave children who died defending your right to bear arms. Freedom is not free.

[billvon 3,064]

And just to bring everyone else up to speed -

Several drunks were ejected from a bar. One returned with a gun and started firing, striking the bartender and several patrons. A bystander called police. Jemel Robison, an armed security guard on duty there, quickly subdued the shooter. He got him on the floor with a gun to his head and a knee in his back. He was wearing a uniform with a hat and a vest that both said "SECURITY."

Police showed up. Bystanders started yelling "he's security! He's security!" They then opened fire, killing Robison.

Robison leaves behind a 9 month old daughter. He was also working as a church musician and was planning to become a police officer.

[RonD1120 62]

RMK

******How extreme is your church that it needs security guards with large patches?

Following the shootout of the small church in Texas, one of the churches in our area experienced an incident of moderate violence. We discussed and considered the situation and decided to have designated security personnel. Several other churches in our local area have done likewise.

What do you do with your guns while snake handling or speaking in tongues?

We don't handle snakes.

Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.