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kallend

Three quarters of Republicans in the House now represent congressional districts where the percentage of the population with college degrees is below the national average.

GOP - the party of the poorly educated voter.



Hehe...you always assume education = intelligence. Some of the dumbest people I've ever met had sheepskins.
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Hi airdvr,

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you always assume education = intelligence. Some of the dumbest people I've ever met had sheepskins.



Well, there is always that Kodak moment.

Most of the brightest people I have ever met have sheepskins.

Jerry Baumchen

PS) I'm thinking your 'some' = few.



Possibly. While I can assume that not everyone who is educated are intelligent you can’t assume that all uneducated individuals are stupid. In fact, perhaps not mortgaging their future to student loans indicates a higher level.
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Possibly. While I can assume that not everyone who is educated are intelligent you can’t assume that all uneducated individuals are stupid. In fact, perhaps not mortgaging their future to student loans indicates a higher level.




As a poorly educated man who is not stupid I would like to say that becoming educated shows a certain initiative and willingness to make sacrifices to learn. Stupid is as stupid does.
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airdvr

While I can assume that not everyone who is educated are intelligent you can’t assume that all uneducated individuals are stupid.


No one here is doing that.

You're arguing against your own strawman.
Do you want to have an ideagasm?

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***Hi airdvr,

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you always assume education = intelligence. Some of the dumbest people I've ever met had sheepskins.



Well, there is always that Kodak moment.

Most of the brightest people I have ever met have sheepskins.

Jerry Baumchen

PS) I'm thinking your 'some' = few.



Possibly. While I can assume that not everyone who is educated are intelligent you can’t assume that all uneducated individuals are stupid. In fact, perhaps not mortgaging their future to student loans indicates a higher level.

We don't see a whole lot of physicians and surgeons who didn't attend college. Nor aerospace engineers, bridge designers . . . . .

Maybe you prefer to get your medical attention from a high school dropout.
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kallend

******Hi airdvr,

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you always assume education = intelligence. Some of the dumbest people I've ever met had sheepskins.



Well, there is always that Kodak moment.

Most of the brightest people I have ever met have sheepskins.

Jerry Baumchen

PS) I'm thinking your 'some' = few.



Possibly. While I can assume that not everyone who is educated are intelligent you can’t assume that all uneducated individuals are stupid. In fact, perhaps not mortgaging their future to student loans indicates a higher level.

We don't see a whole lot of physicians and surgeons who didn't attend college. Nor aerospace engineers, bridge designers . . . . .

Maybe you prefer to get your medical attention from a high school dropout.

Thank you for your continuing arrogance. It serves you well.
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*** Three quarters of Republicans in the House now represent congressional districts where the percentage of the population with college degrees is below the national average.

GOP - the party of the poorly educated voter.



Hehe...you always assume education = intelligence. Some of the dumbest people I've ever met had sheepskins.

Take me for example. I have an AA, BA, MA, USPA-I, Tandem Master, and a Pro-Rating. People here think I'm stupid.
Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

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airdvr

*********Hi airdvr,

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you always assume education = intelligence. Some of the dumbest people I've ever met had sheepskins.



Well, there is always that Kodak moment.

Most of the brightest people I have ever met have sheepskins.

Jerry Baumchen

PS) I'm thinking your 'some' = few.



Possibly. While I can assume that not everyone who is educated are intelligent you can’t assume that all uneducated individuals are stupid. In fact, perhaps not mortgaging their future to student loans indicates a higher level.

We don't see a whole lot of physicians and surgeons who didn't attend college. Nor aerospace engineers, bridge designers . . . . .

Maybe you prefer to get your medical attention from a high school dropout.

Thank you for your continuing arrogance. It serves you well.

Well, that was one of your more stupid responses.
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RonD1120

****** Three quarters of Republicans in the House now represent congressional districts where the percentage of the population with college degrees is below the national average.

GOP - the party of the poorly educated voter.



Hehe...you always assume education = intelligence. Some of the dumbest people I've ever met had sheepskins.

Take me for example. I have an AA, BA, MA, USPA-I, Tandem Master, and a Pro-Rating. People here think I'm stupid.

No. Your posting shows you are a long way from stupid.

Which makes so many of your positions on issues so difficult to understand.
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>While I can assume that not everyone who is educated are intelligent you can’t
>assume that all uneducated individuals are stupid.

Of course. There are a dumb people who graduate with specialized higher degrees*, and there are a lot of people who can't afford college, or don't have the ability to go, or do something else instead.

But for the large part, IQ matches educational level. From Charles Murray’s book Coming Apart, data based on standardized testing of 25 year white Americans, comparing education level to IQ:

No degree - 87
High school degree - 99
Associate degree - 104
Bachelor's - 113
Masters - 117
PhD - 124

>In fact, perhaps not mortgaging their future to student loans indicates a higher level.

And getting a high level education _without_ mortgaging their future indicates an even higher level of intelligence.

(* - these people are intelligent in exactly one way i.e. the manner that pertains to their degree, and not so smart in all other ways. However, that's rare - most intelligent people are not limited in that way.)

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And getting a high level education _without_ mortgaging their future indicates an even higher level of intelligence.



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Most college graduates have one major thing in common: student debt. Today, 70 percent of college students graduate with a significant amount of loans.



Hmmm...

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/02/15/heres-how-much-the-average-student-loan-borrower-owes-when-they-graduate.html
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>Hmmm...
>https://www.cnbc.com/...n-they-graduate.html

Yep, a lot of people end up owing a lot of money.

Smarter ones often don't. As an example, a former intern of mine spent four years at MIT and ended up only paying half the going rate via scholarships. He was just accepted to the PhD program at Stanford and the school is covering his education.

So he will graduate in another three years and start somewhere with a salary close to $100K a year. He'll get pretty good value for his money.

Of course, you have to be fairly smart (and hardworking, and focused etc) to pull that off.

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As more races are being called after close elections, more seats are going Democratic. The most recent one about to be called is for the Arizona Senate, where Krysten Sinema is leading with 30,000 votes - putting her 1.4% ahead.

Trump, the ultimate sore loser, started in with some wacko conspiracy theories about "signatures don't match" on some ballots, so it's all a fraud, and there has to be another election. (And presumably another and another until the GOP candidate wins.) GOP leaders, to their credit, are distancing themselves from him. The Republican governor said that he will "count the votes . . and heed the will of the voters." GOP senator Jeff Flake said "there is no evidence of electoral corruption in Arizona, Mr. President."

Better late than never, I guess.

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wolfriverjoe



No. Your posting shows you are a long way from stupid.

Which makes so many of your positions on issues so difficult to understand.



Over the years I have given hints to help clarify my posts.

You need to develop an empathic understanding of anger, depression, fear, and guilt.

Empathy is not synonymous with sympathy.
Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

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tonyhays

He doesn't have to think.

Proverbs 3:5

"Trust in the Lord with all your heart, and lean not on your own understanding"



Passions that retard spiritual growth and development are anger, attachment, greed, lust, and vanity.

Accept Jesus the Christ, receive the Holy Spirit, pray, fast, and study The Word. Listen for and discern the voice of the Holy Spirit and follow Him.
Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

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RonD1120

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No. Your posting shows you are a long way from stupid.

Which makes so many of your positions on issues so difficult to understand.



Over the years I have given hints to help clarify my posts.

You need to develop an empathic understanding of anger, depression, fear, and guilt.

Empathy is not synonymous with sympathy.

Oh, I understand those things quite well.

And perhaps I misstated it.

I understand what your positions are. Those are pretty clear to anyone who reads your stuff. Even the positions you refuse to admit.

What I don't understand is why you take those positions.
"There are NO situations which do not call for a French Maid outfit." Lucky McSwervy

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wolfriverjoe

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No. Your posting shows you are a long way from stupid.

Which makes so many of your positions on issues so difficult to understand.



Over the years I have given hints to help clarify my posts.

You need to develop an empathic understanding of anger, depression, fear, and guilt.

Empathy is not synonymous with sympathy.

Oh, I understand those things quite well.

And perhaps I misstated it.

I understand what your positions are. Those are pretty clear to anyone who reads your stuff. Even the positions you refuse to admit.

What I don't understand is why you take those positions.

A counseling tip: Never ask a why question. It always leads to a defensive because answer.
Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

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Trump takes a brave stand against . . . mail in ballots.

"The Florida Election should be called in favor of Rick Scott and Ron DeSantis in that large numbers of new ballots showed up out of nowhere. . . ."

("Nowhere" in this case meaning the US Postal Service.)

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No. Your posting shows you are a long way from stupid.

Which makes so many of your positions on issues so difficult to understand.



Over the years I have given hints to help clarify my posts.

You need to develop an empathic understanding of anger, depression, fear, and guilt.

Empathy is not synonymous with sympathy.

Oh, I understand those things quite well.

And perhaps I misstated it.

I understand what your positions are. Those are pretty clear to anyone who reads your stuff. Even the positions you refuse to admit.

What I don't understand is why you take those positions.

Ron has a dogmatic view of Christian values. Limited state involvement of the economy and anit-abortion are core. Together with support of the state when it favors them over other religions.

This may help:
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/out-the-darkness/201412/dogmatic-and-spiritual-religion

Dogmatically religious people are those who think that they’re right and everyone else is wrong. For them, religion isn’t about self-development or experiencing the transcendent, but about adhering to a set of rigid beliefs and following the rules laid down by religious authorities. It’s about defending their beliefs against anyone who questions them, asserting their "truth" over other people’s, and spreading those beliefs to others. For them, the fact that other people have different beliefs is an affront, since it implies the possibility that their own beliefs may not be true. They need to convince other people that they’re wrong to prove to themselves that they’re right.

Dogmatic religion stems from a psychological need for group identity and belonging, together with a need for certainty and meaning. There is a strong impulse in human beings to define ourselves, whether it’s as a Christian, a Muslim, a socialist, an American, a Republican, or as a fan of a sports club. This urge is closely connected to the impulse to be part of a group, to feel that you belong, and share the same beliefs and principles as others. And these impulses work together with the need for certainty—the feeling that you "know," that you possess the truth, that you are right and others are wrong.

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