airdvr 210 #1 December 22, 2018 https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/20/world/europe/der-spiegel-claas-relotius.html QuoteBERLIN — He told the story of a Syrian boy who believed he had helped start the country’s civil war with a prank. He profiled an American woman who traveled around the United States to watch executions. He brought to life, in astoundingly granular detail, the anguish of a would-be suicide bomber in Iraq. Claas Relotius, a star writer at Der Spiegel, Germany’s most respected newsmagazine, won many awards for his reporting on the most important stories of the day. Except, it turns out, much of it was invented. If someone as respected as this can be turned...Please don't dent the planet. Destinations by Roxanne Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #2 December 22, 2018 airdvrhttps://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/20/world/europe/der-spiegel-claas-relotius.html QuoteBERLIN — He told the story of a Syrian boy who believed he had helped start the country’s civil war with a prank. He profiled an American woman who traveled around the United States to watch executions. He brought to life, in astoundingly granular detail, the anguish of a would-be suicide bomber in Iraq. Claas Relotius, a star writer at Der Spiegel, Germany’s most respected newsmagazine, won many awards for his reporting on the most important stories of the day. Except, it turns out, much of it was invented. If someone as respected as this can be turned... I am looking for more to be revealed next month. Panic in DC and MSM is causing some to bail out before being called out. Did you know that President Trump issued an EO changing the rules governing military tribunals under the UCMJ? I wonder if he is planning to use them.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,564 #3 December 22, 2018 No industry is immune from con-men and malign actors. But the story highlights why, in general, Der Spiegel and other MSM sources are honest and reliable. When his fraud was discovered they fired him and publicised his deception, despite it being damaging and embarrassing for them. The real purveyors of fake news, like Trump, would never do that.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfriverjoe 1,523 #4 December 22, 2018 jakeeNo industry is immune from con-men and malign actors. But the story highlights why, in general, Der Spiegel and other MSM sources are honest and reliable. When his fraud was discovered they fired him and publicised his deception, despite it being damaging and embarrassing for them. The real purveyors of fake news, like Trump, would never do that. And, of course, one 'MSM' journalist being shown to make up stories means that all of them are. We really need a sarcasm font. Ron - Do you have a link for that EO changing the rules for UCMJ tribunals? Everything I've found is from seriously fringe sites. The example I've linked is just one. But obviously it's waaaaay out there. Their primary focus is on UFOs. And they refer to 'posts' from 'Qanon'. They obviously don't know jack. You've made it pretty clear that the real info comes from [Q] in 'drops'."There are NO situations which do not call for a French Maid outfit." Lucky McSwervy "~ya don't GET old by being weak & stupid!" - Airtwardo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,564 #5 December 22, 2018 wolfriverjoeRon - Do you have a link for that EO changing the rules for UCMJ tribunals? https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-2018-03-08/pdf/2018-04860.pdf Wouldn't it be lovely if Ron would tell us which exact part of those amendments he thinks is significant? One thing I noticed was that it appears to delete the offense of sharing without consent a sexual recording that was made with consent (revenge porn) which seems a positively Trumpian thing to do, but I kinda doubt that's what Ron was on about. I also saw saw those whacked out fringe websites you mention, but funnily enough they've been wanking over the thought of Trump using the UCMJ against civilians since way before this Order was written. Chances are they've just hitched their fantasy onto the EO without ever even glancing at the contents. Hands up who's surprised that Ron's taken the bait?Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfriverjoe 1,523 #6 December 22, 2018 jakee Wouldn't it be lovely if Ron would tell us which exact part of those amendments he thinks is significant?... ...Chances are they've just hitched their fantasy onto the EO without ever even glancing at the contents. Hands up who's surprised that Ron's taken the bait? That was mostly my point."There are NO situations which do not call for a French Maid outfit." Lucky McSwervy "~ya don't GET old by being weak & stupid!" - Airtwardo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,564 #7 December 22, 2018 Oh I know. I'm just saying that while Ron is probably borderline capable of finding and linking the real EO, he's also the kind of guy that would simply drop the entire 1000 (or whatever) page document and claim it as proof for whatever the hell he's talking about.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfriverjoe 1,523 #8 December 22, 2018 jakee Oh I know. I'm just saying that while Ron is probably borderline capable of finding and linking the real EO, he's also the kind of guy that would simply drop the entire 1000 (or whatever) page document and claim it as proof for whatever the hell he's talking about. Yup. That too. "There are NO situations which do not call for a French Maid outfit." Lucky McSwervy "~ya don't GET old by being weak & stupid!" - Airtwardo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,078 #9 December 22, 2018 > CNN ‘Journalist of the Year’ peddles fake story about Trump’s America, resigns Dang. Too bad he didn't work for FOX. He would have gotten a hefty promotion and an appointment to a Cabinet position for that sort of lying. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 2,253 #10 December 22, 2018 Yes, real journalism has standards and holds people accountable when they cheat. The real story here is how seldom this needs to happen.Always remember the brave children who died defending your right to bear arms. Freedom is not free. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil1111 1,149 #11 December 22, 2018 billvon> CNN ‘Journalist of the Year’ peddles fake story about Trump’s America, resigns Dang. Too bad he didn't work for FOX. He would have gotten a hefty promotion and an appointment to a Cabinet position for that sort of lying. If he worked for FOX the lie would get lost in the pander-babble that passes for news. FOX almost without exceptions parrots trumps lies without challenge. Then their audience, Pavlov's canines, lap it up. If FOX fired people for lying they would devoid of journalists, management and ownership. Within a day. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remster 30 #12 December 23, 2018 QuoteIf FOX fired people for lying they would devoid of journalists, Well, to be fair.....Remster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 2,253 #13 December 23, 2018 RemsterQuoteIf FOX fired people for lying they would devoid of journalists, Well, to be fair..... Comparing Der Spiegel to Fox is not realistic. One is journalism and one is entertainment. They can not be expected to have the same standards.Always remember the brave children who died defending your right to bear arms. Freedom is not free. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #14 December 23, 2018 They are not alone. https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/19/world/europe/der-spiegel-claas-relotius.html"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #15 December 23, 2018 Once again - you never read the story since its the same exact story.Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,564 #16 December 23, 2018 rushmcThey are not alone. https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/19/world/europe/der-spiegel-claas-relotius.html That's interesting, because rushmc also pointed that out.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jclalor 12 #17 December 29, 2018 And yet our president gives White House press credentials to InfoWars. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
richravizza 28 #18 December 30, 2018 better than none ,as a totalitarian Lets get into Info wars.. A nut job conspiracy tinfoil hat wacko with an onion, sounds pretty fun and interesting. But if you have an IQ of a vegetable you might see him as a Threat. and we must banish him and all he stands for. Like all good leftist we should Burn his books ban him from the internet, remove any forms of his oppion Alex Jones really? how about other comedian, political hacks and the likes of the young Turks sounds wonderfully totalitarian to me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,564 #19 December 30, 2018 richravizzaLike all good leftist we should Burn his books ban him from the internet, remove any forms of his oppion Alex Jones really? how about other comedian, political hacks and the likes of the young Turks sounds wonderfully totalitarian to me. Is it invent a statement to argue against day? PS: Check out a history of banned books and censorship in the USA and you'll find a long and proud conservative tradition. PPS: Have a third go at spelling 'opinion' once you've sobered up, you might just get it.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #20 January 2, 2019 airdvrhttps://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/20/world/europe/der-spiegel-claas-relotius.html QuoteBERLIN — He told the story of a Syrian boy who believed he had helped start the country’s civil war with a prank. He profiled an American woman who traveled around the United States to watch executions. He brought to life, in astoundingly granular detail, the anguish of a would-be suicide bomber in Iraq. Claas Relotius, a star writer at Der Spiegel, Germany’s most respected newsmagazine, won many awards for his reporting on the most important stories of the day. Except, it turns out, much of it was invented. If someone as respected as this can be turned... Der Spiegel fires journalist for made up reporting. President Trump gives interviews to Alex Jones. You attack actual journalists. lol Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites