The wall

[BIGUN 1,318]

3 minutes ago, DJL said:

So to quit the one-line nay-saying what I DO believe to be the solution is a combination of  E-Verify, tightening of restrictions on refugees, loosening and expanding the work visa program, US support of countries in the Western Hemisphere from which these people are coming.

Fair enough. All good suggestions. I'm more for a bi-partisan solution of a figurative, rather than literal wall. One of the things Bill & I discussed was the need for an "Ellis Island" solution on the border. But, given the exponential increase of illegal immigrants and their education on how, where, when and why to cross - feel as though we need to stop it before it can be implemented as a trickle with the proper mechanisms and methodology.

But, that's just my opinion.   .   

[wolfriverjoe 1,523]

28 minutes ago, BIGUN said:

Don't you find it interesting that anyone who flies on an airline is more subject to background and physical examinations than anyone coming across the border? Don't hear anyone from the Democrat Party whining about the barriers in airports. 

Have you crossed the border lately?

They now require passports, when a driver's license used to be good enough to come back from Mexico or Canada (changed 10 or 12 years ago). They run a lot of big trucks through a gamma ray system (similar to x-rays, shows what's inside.  Drug sniffing dogs are pretty common. The CBP officer asks a number of questions. And pays very close attention to your responses*. Both what you say and how you say it. 

 

The threat level is different, in part because the airplane and boarding areas are 'sterile', while once you get through customs, you are 'out in the real world'. Also because they are trying to stop smugglers and 'bad actors' at the border. They are trying to make sure nobody has the tools to hijack the airplane at airports.

But to imply that the security level is less, just because it is different is not totally accurate.

* - Best question I was ever asked at a border crossing - US officer asked me "what are you smuggling today" (ever seen South Park and the 'Fireworks' episode?). I answered something like "Well, I have my personal gear, and the truckload of paper products that I'm hauling. The load is all detailed on the paperwork and the personal gear is the same I bring every time. I'm not smuggling anything. 
He responded 'Oh, you're going to make my day boring, huh?"
And in one of the best 'instant responses' I've ever come up with (you always think of them a couple hours later), I said, "well, if I was to give you a really exciting day, I'd be having a really BAD day." 
He laughed and agreed. 

[Coreece 190]

On 4/16/2019 at 3:50 PM, SkyDekker said:

These people simply don't live in any version of reality. Only feelings of fear, revenge and anger matter.

Couldn't this, along with the whole thing about immigrant crime being rare be applied to almost any special group/cause seeking to end or at least draw attention to some type of victimization/injustice?

[SkyDekker 1,465]

On 4/20/2019 at 10:53 AM, Coreece said:

Couldn't this, along with the whole thing about immigrant crime being rare be applied to almost any special group/cause seeking to end or at least draw attention to some type of victimization/injustice?

No.

There are lots of groups who do things for reasons other than fear, revenge and anger.