brenthutch 444 #751 May 10, 2019 Following a below average Jan-March. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 800 #752 May 10, 2019 25 minutes ago, gowlerk said: For a whole month? For an important (USA) corner of Earth. Wow! that settles everything then, now doesn't it? Deniers, deadenders, same thing. Snowbirds are STILL coming south too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #753 May 10, 2019 2 hours ago, yobnoc said: 5 hours ago, Rick said: We find this from time to time when doing research on sign codes in different municipalities. Usually it is a city/county/town with a architectural review board or historic preservation committee some such. a side note here-a quick google search of the code told me what suburb. I actually graduated from Lakeshore High on 13 mile. We moved there when we bailed out of Detroit I live at 9 and Harper right behind South Lake. Trying to bail out of here within the next year to find warmer climate. Hopefully Charleston. I know it's your own personal business, and I don't mean to pry, but why build a garage then? Seems like you'd be taking a pretty sizable loss. Either way, good luck. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yobnoc 142 #754 May 10, 2019 1 minute ago, Coreece said: I know it's your own personal business, and I don't mean to pry, but why build a garage then? Seems like you'd be taking a pretty sizable loss. Either way, good luck. Yeah, the project is only tentatively scheduled for next year. If I end up with a transfer, obviously that project goes in the toilet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 444 #755 May 10, 2019 1 hour ago, gowlerk said: Deniers, deadenders, same thing. You know you have lost the argument when your only rebuttal is name calling. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,027 #756 May 10, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, brenthutch said: On second thought, "During April, the average contiguous U.S. temperature was 48.9°F, 2.2°F below the 20th century average, making it the 13th coldest April on record and the coldest since 1997. Record and near-record cold temperatures stretched from the Northern Plains to the Gulf Coast and Northeast" (from NOAA) When only 50% of US citizens have a passport, it's not surprising that weather in the USA is often confused with global climate. Edited May 10, 2019 by kallend Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 444 #757 May 10, 2019 (edited) As I have already shown, global temperatures are dropping as well. BTW I do have a passport, lived in Europe for more than five years and have visited 17 countries and counting. I am hardly some parochial hayseed. Edited May 10, 2019 by brenthutch Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,027 #758 May 10, 2019 5 minutes ago, brenthutch said: As I have already shown, global temperatures are dropping as well. No you haven't. All you've shown is that by careful cherry picking you can give that false impression. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 444 #759 May 10, 2019 (edited) How does one cherry pick the past three years? Edited May 10, 2019 by brenthutch Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #760 May 10, 2019 4 minutes ago, brenthutch said: How does one cherry pick the past three years? By picking just the past three years. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 444 #761 May 10, 2019 (edited) When I picked the last twenty years, I was accused of cherry picking. Remember what this thread is about, the GND and the claim that we are currently in a climate crisis. If am refuting the notion that we are CURRENTLY in a climate crises, it only makes sense to use current data. Edited May 10, 2019 by brenthutch Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #762 May 10, 2019 11 minutes ago, brenthutch said: If am refuting the notion that we are CURRENTLY in a climate crises, it only makes sense to use current data. No, not really. Try using current data to establish if you are in a recession for instance. Or current data to establish if you are heading for a recession/economic crisis. Current indicator are not necessarily indicative of the path you are on. Lots of incident investigations to support that. The last 3 or 5 years are relatively immaterial time frames in a global climate debate. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 444 #763 May 10, 2019 2 hours ago, gowlerk said: I've never heard that on NPR. Can you link to a story or are you just expressing your "feels" again? http://news.trust.org/item/20190406071913-2mgs2/ Was referenced by NPR Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,991 #764 May 10, 2019 2 hours ago, brenthutch said: As I have already shown, global temperatures are dropping as well. "There's only one problem with global warming - It ended in 1998! No, 2005! Wait, 2010! 2014! 2015! OK, this time I am REALLY REALLY sure - 2016!" At some point people stop believing you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 444 #765 May 10, 2019 I would not expect alarmists to believe me, that is why I sited NOAA Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,027 #766 May 11, 2019 10 hours ago, brenthutch said: I would not expect alarmists to believe me, that is why I sited NOAA I doubt anyone except rushmc believes you, since you shot your credibility a long time ago. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 444 #767 May 11, 2019 (edited) The facts stand for themselves: no change in the rate of sea level rise record food production no increase in the number, duration or intensity of hurricanes, floods, droughts, tornadoes or wildfires A literal greening of the planet (the irony is not lost on me) and we still have polar bears and summer arctic sea ice Please show me where I am missing something, or you can respond with dismissive name calling and insults. Edited May 11, 2019 by brenthutch Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,991 #768 May 11, 2019 4 hours ago, brenthutch said: The facts stand for themselves: Yes, they do. CO2 is rising due to our emissions. The upper atmosphere is cooling and the lower atmosphere is warming, per predictions. The average surface temperature is rising, again per predictions, closely matching the IPCC's models. Can't get away from those facts no matter how much you spin. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,027 #769 May 11, 2019 8 hours ago, brenthutch said: The facts stand for themselves: Yes. April reached a new record Arctic low sea ice extent. Sea ice loss was rapid in the beginning of the month because of declines in the Sea of Okhotsk. The rate of ice loss slowed after early April, due in part to gains in extent in the Bering and Barents Seas. However, daily ice extent remained at record low levels throughout the month. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,027 #770 May 11, 2019 8 hours ago, brenthutch said: The facts stand for themselves: Yes they do: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,027 #771 May 11, 2019 8 hours ago, brenthutch said: The facts stand for themselves: Indeed: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,991 #772 May 11, 2019 4 minutes ago, kallend said: Yes they do: But the graph is moving upwards. PROOF that there is no such thing as climate change! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 444 #773 May 12, 2019 (edited) I apologize, I should have realized that my inclusion of sea ice would have caused confusion. Let us just focus on what actually impacts humanity. Let us try again. "no change in the rate of sea level rise record food production no increase in the number, duration or intensity of hurricanes, floods, droughts, tornadoes or wildfires A literal greening of the planet." I hope we can all agree that global warming and a loss of Arctic sea ice is, in and of itself, is not necessarily a bad thing. It is the follow on effects that count. I am still waiting for you guys to explain how a fraction of a degree of warming, with no corresponding negative effects, necessitates a rebooting of the global economy. Just kidding, that was a rhetorical statement. I don't expect you guys to be able to answer. Edited May 12, 2019 by brenthutch Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,027 #774 May 12, 2019 12 hours ago, brenthutch said: I apologize, I should have realized that my inclusion of sea ice would have caused confusion. Let us just focus on what actually impacts humanity. Let us try again. And just like that, the goalposts are moved again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 800 #775 May 12, 2019 1 hour ago, kallend said: And just like that, the goalposts are moved again. With what, 4 threads on global warming? Maybe he's not sure which thread and strawman he's supporting. I wish we had a DB Cooper rule in SC. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
