gowlerk 2,192 #1 Posted April 15, 2019 (edited) Trump just tweeted about plans for a new hotel in a great location that is just becoming available in Paris. Edited April 15, 2019 by gowlerk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,363 #2 April 15, 2019 1 hour ago, gowlerk said: Trump Hi Ken, Re: 'Trump's suggestion of using "flying water tankers' I'm sure that he knows more than any firefighter would know. https://www.cnn.com/world/live-news/notre-dame-fire/index.html Jerry Baumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 220 #3 April 15, 2019 We all know that this is Trumps fault. We all know without a doubt that he had the fire set. We all know that the leftover Nanothermite from the WTC thing where some people did some stuff, is the real culprit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 2,192 #4 April 15, 2019 Fire is nature's way of creating renewal in the urban forest. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
raftman 12 #5 April 15, 2019 It's just a Game of Thrones PR stunt! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #6 April 15, 2019 36 minutes ago, gowlerk said: Fire is nature's way of creating renewal in the urban forest. Somebody clearly forgot to rake the Notre Dame. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 34 #8 April 16, 2019 France has had a lot of churches vandalized/desecrated/burned in just the last few weeks. Clearly something is going on. Wanna take a stab at who I think is responsible, but the MSM here won't entertain the notion of, in direct interviews with French officials? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #9 April 16, 2019 Billy - take your pathetic pandering of a "Muslim conspiracy to burn it down" to another forum. You are on your last warning on this and anything else on this track will just have your accounts banned. All reports from the Parisian fire department indicate this started in the attic of the nave while in the middle of major reconstruction. The number of workplace construction fires is astronomical due to things like sparks from cutting, tools and other items. The entire wooden roof with out a sprinkler system would have had the structure condemned if it was a commercial building instead of a house of worship. Those timbers were several hundred years old and were as dry as tinder so the slightest spark meant they were going to burn with out a way of stopping it. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 444 #10 April 16, 2019 (edited) Given the demographic shift in France it will be rebuilt as a Mosque Edited April 16, 2019 by brenthutch 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 34 #11 April 16, 2019 4 hours ago, PhreeZone said: Billy - take your pathetic pandering of a "Muslim conspiracy to burn it down" to another forum. You are on your last warning on this and anything else on this track will just have your accounts banned. All reports from the Parisian fire department indicate this started in the attic of the nave while in the middle of major reconstruction. The number of workplace construction fires is astronomical due to things like sparks from cutting, tools and other items. The entire wooden roof with out a sprinkler system would have had the structure condemned if it was a commercial building instead of a house of worship. Those timbers were several hundred years old and were as dry as tinder so the slightest spark meant they were going to burn with out a way of stopping it. Okay, I've given it some serious consideration. Since I can't promise to behave, I'm going to do you all a favor and bow out of this forum, forever. It's been a fun ride, but eventually, the ride ends somewhere. It does here. Have I been a pain in the ass to moderate? You bet your ass I have (see, even we agree on something). Have I made mistakes, hell yes. Do I regret some of the things I've said? Yes, but only with regards to a certain greenie whose husband wanted me to remind him to punch me in the fucking face. To those two, I apologize. I don't hold any grudges to anybody and I wish you all a good life. I'm barely on here anymore anyway, so I'm at peace with my decision. Now, ban me permanently. I'm not giving you a choice. Not after this. Blue Skies and fair winds. (Don't worry about me, I'm perfectly fine) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfriverjoe 1,523 #12 April 16, 2019 Wow. What a logical, rational and grown up response. Kind of a shame. It was a good example of the 'thought process' (or lack thereof) of the typical Trump supporter. Especially the "blame the Muslims and the MSM is covering it up" garbage. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 220 #13 April 19, 2019 On 4/16/2019 at 12:59 PM, wolfriverjoe said: Wow. What a logical, rational and grown up response. Kind of a shame. It was a good example of the 'thought process' (or lack thereof) of the typical Trump supporter. Especially the "blame the Muslims and the MSM is covering it up" garbage. We will probably never definitively know what caused the fire - so its an exercise in futility to argue about intentional vs accident. It is VERY suspicious since so many other churches have been vandalized and damaged throughout France and the rest of the world. But it is just suspicion. (A lot like the WTC catastrophe) I do agree that haphazardly blaming an entire religion on the damage is a bit far reaching. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,447 #14 April 19, 2019 We have the fire chief in Paris stating that all evidence points to a short circuit. Is that definitive enough, or do you need a video of the short circuit to exonerate the “evil Muslim?” ”Innocent until proven guilty” is supposed to be an assumption in all cases, not just the ones where you, personally, can identify with the alleged perpetrator Wendy P. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 220 #15 April 19, 2019 57 minutes ago, wmw999 said: Is that definitive enough, I would like as much evidence as is possible to gather reasonably. Until then, I will remain skeptical. Quote or do you need a video of the short circuit to exonerate the “evil Muslim?” Wow. The left does like to jump to their conclusions - I never said anything about Muslims - Although I can envision the possibility. I also didn't say anything about the Westborough Baptist Church - But I can envision that possibility as well. Are you telling that there is no suspicion in your mind that it may have been deliberately set? There have been hundreds of vandalisms. Granting absolution to anyone, just because it looks bad isn't the right answer. Quote ”Innocent until proven guilty” is supposed to be an assumption in all cases, not just the ones where you, personally, can identify with the alleged perpetrator Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,991 #16 April 19, 2019 5 hours ago, turtlespeed said: Are you telling that there is no suspicion in your mind that it may have been deliberately set? There have been hundreds of vandalisms. Granting absolution to anyone, just because it looks bad isn't the right answer. Granting absolution to someone you suspected is the right answer - when they didn't do it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfriverjoe 1,523 #17 April 19, 2019 8 hours ago, turtlespeed said: Wow. The left does like to jump to their conclusions - I never said anything about Muslims - Did you miss Billy's second to last post before it got edited? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 220 #18 April 23, 2019 On 4/19/2019 at 3:34 PM, wolfriverjoe said: Did you miss Billy's second to last post before it got edited? I don't think so. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
